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Dave
Post #1
Monday October 17, 2016 12:20am

Joined Jul 2014
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Moving into the Hex there is still a huge question about who our options are at Outside Back. I'd like to get others opinions on what I see as two positions of need/concern.

Left Back:
Fabian is the only top quality option at the moment. Would love to see him further up the field, but without even a decent depth option I can't see it happening.
Acosta is a project player. He's decent against minnows, but he's not ready for teams like Mexico, Costa Rica or other WC competitors.
Besler/Orozco are emergency options only IMO. They could play the position, but are questionable against higher level opponents.
Villafana is the only LB we haven't tried. Not sure why JK hasn't at least called him in, but until he does he'll remain an unknown.
Chandler may deserve another chance at the position. He's in a good run of form with his club at RB, but has been inconsistent at the international level.

Right Back:
Fabian is the best option but needed more at LB than RB.
Chandler is probably the most in form RB we have at the club level. His inconsistent form at the international level hurts him a little, but if he could reproduce his club form he'd be the clear cut starter.
Yedlin is not playing particularly well right now. He's been rash in his challenges and often been caught out of position. If he doesn't reclaim his form soon he needs to drop to the bench IMO.
Rosenberry is one of the best RBs in MLS and should get a call-up in January for a look. Till then he's an unknown at the international level.
Bedoya may be this cycles Beasley. As options at RM emerge and begin to make a claim as starters (Gooch, Zardes, Pulisic) I could see Bedoya slide to a deeper position. He's got the work rate & speed to get up and down the flank, has enough touch/talent to combine well & hit crosses and experience to aid the team. This may be an experiment we'll need to test/try if Yedlin & Chandler continue to struggle.

TheTruth
Post #2
Monday October 17, 2016 1:59am

Joined Dec 2013
Total Posts: 950
No. Neither Yedlin nor Chandler is struggling right now. And no, no "huge questions" about outside back.

MSantoine
Post #3
Monday October 17, 2016 11:35am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 3,723
With Yedlin, Fab, & Chandler, we should in theory have our two starting fullbacks from that group. Chandler can play either side, as can Fab. Hopefully after the New Zealand game Jurgen realizes that Yedlin should be at RB.

So it really comes down to what makes US better.
-Chandler at LB with Fab up as winger.
-or Fab at LB so another youngster can play winger.

If we assume Pulisic and Wood are automatic starters at this point going forward (pending loss in playing time or injury thats a pretty safe assumption) we only have two spots left for attacking roles. Jozy is almost assuredly in one for the short term and potential to stay there through Russia so then you're down to Bedoya, Zardes, Gooch, Arriola, Morris, Aron for the last wing spot. If Fab is "moved up the field" then all those guys sit.

So would you rather have Fab and Chandler or Fab and one from the above group? Thats the actual question. At least until Pulisic evolves into a true CAM, at which point Fab can take his spot on one wing and you have the place for the other wing.

Rey Regicide
Post #4
Monday October 17, 2016 12:15pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 2,001
Right now we should have Chandler on the left, Yedlin on the right defensively. Fab and Puli up top next to Altidore and Wood

In the middle Bradley and Klestjan, whether this turns into a 4 3 3 or a 4 2 3 1 or a straight 4 4 2 doesn't bother me. What's important is that those are our best players in their positions. Well, minus Chandler. He'll be playing left back.

skangles
DC
Post #5
Tuesday October 18, 2016 4:39pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 5,443
Roma is reportedly interested in signing Chandler in January. Good to hear irrespective of whether the move happens. If only Timmy could show some life when he's with the MNT...

Dave
Post #6
Wednesday October 19, 2016 12:08am

Joined Jul 2014
Total Posts: 1,003
@MSantoine - I'm a firm believer that having a strong/dominating defense has to be our first priority. Having a strong defense allows more risk/creativity in advanced positions. IMO our strongest defensive line is Fabian (LB), Brooks (LCB), Cameron (RCB), and either Yedlin or Chandler at RB.

As for the future there are innumerable possibilities/combinations depending upon which of our young players break out over the next 12-18 months. Since the bulk of our emerging/returning talent is in midfield, forward or CB...I actually cannot see any situation where Fabian moves further up field, unless a major LB talent if unearthed (which I don't see happening).

I could easily see a 4-3-3 like:

---CP/JG------WOOD-----LG/GZ---
----DW/DN------------BRADLEY--
------------CAMERON-----------
--FJ---BROOKS----MM/CCV---DY/TC--

OR

----------WOOD--------
--CP/JG----SK/DN----LG/GZ--
----CAMERON----BRADLEY---
-FJ--BROOKS--MM/CCV--DY/TC

As I said it's going to come down to which of the young players ultimately break through first. Pulisic (CP) is leading the pack, but Green (JG), Gooch (LG), Zardes (GZ), Birnbaum (SB), Miazga (MM), & CCV are all making strong cases for themselves.

And we'll still have any number of viable players as bench/alternates players....Jozy, Morris, ArJo, Boyd, Rubin, Birnbaum, Bedoya, etc.....

MSantoine
Post #7
Wednesday October 19, 2016 4:52pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 3,723
Original post from Dave

@MSantoine - I'm a firm believer that having a strong/dominating defense has to be our first priority. Having a strong defense allows more risk/creativity in advanced positions. IMO our strongest defensive line is Fabian (LB), Brooks (LCB), Cameron (RCB), and either Yedlin or Chandler at RB.

As for the future there are innumerable possibilities/combinations depending upon which of our young players break out over the next 12-18 months. Since the bulk of our emerging/returning talent is in midfield, forward or CB...I actually cannot see any situation where Fabian moves further up field, unless a major LB talent if unearthed (which I don't see happening).



Ive always thought we should keep Fab at LB and stop bouncing him back and forth. Firstly its clear there are better options at wing then alternatives at LB. Thats not even debateable. You go about 11 deep at wing before you get to the 3rd fullback option (Acosta? Besler?)

Secondly as players age they typically drop further back. See Beasley. Pretty soon his only position will be at fullback. Mine as wll keep having him improve there

johnvuke
Dallas
Post #8
Friday October 21, 2016 2:50pm

Joined Aug 2016
Total Posts: 33
How sad is it that our third choice fullback is either Acosta, Besler, Castillo or Orozco....


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