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Know Nothing
Post #1
Wednesday September 21, 2016 8:58pm

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It's league cup week and a few of our younger players have gotten some first team minutes.

Emerson Hyndman - Came on in the 89th minute and played the full extra time period for Bournemouth as they lost to Preston North End. So unless there are some injuries or he greatly impresses in training, looks like limited minutes until the F.A. Cup in January for Emmo.

Gideon Zelalem - Came on in the 83rd minute of Arsenal's 4-0 win over Nottingham Forest. Depending on the draw, GZ may get some more minutes in the next round. BTW, Eric Lichaj played the full 90 for Forest.

Cameron Carter-Vickers - Started the match for Spurs in their match against Gillingham. As of right now, Spurs are leading at the half. Looks like more minutes for CCV in this competition and probably the early rounds of the FA Cup.

On the not so young side of things:

Tim Ream has gotten the start for Fulham today and currently they are level 1-1 with fellow Championship side Bristol City.

Looking at the Stoke lineup Geoff Cameron has started either in a back three or as the holding midfielder in their match with Hull. They are currently level 1-1 at the half.

And there is possibly a match on the horizon for Matt Miazga. Vitesse play ASV De Dijk in the Dutch Cup tomorrow.

Dave
Post #2
Wednesday September 21, 2016 9:30pm

Joined Jul 2014
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Gooch was/is in the game for Sunderland today against QPR in their F.A. Cup. Was subbed out around the 70th minute mark. Subbed right around the time Sunderland tied up the game at 1 - 1.

Anyone know if CCV has ever been played as a RCB? I've only ever seen him played as a LCB, but have heard he has lined up as a CDM at the youth level for Tottenham. The reason I ask is that if CCV can play either RCB or CDM I could potentially see him breaking into the USMNT next year If he continues to receive minutes this year.
IF (big if) he does start seeing real minutes for Tottenham and can play as either a RCB or as a CDM it would strengthen the USMNT significantly in the back half of this qualification cycle. If he can play RCB we could potentially move Cameron to CDM which in turn could push Bradley to RM (in a 4-3-3) or a #8 CM (in a 4-4-2). If he can play as a CDM the same effect could be achieved while keeping the CB pairing of Cameron & Brooks. IMO while RCB has more depth than LCB, it would be easier to climb the ranks depth chart of the RCB to a starting position than that of LCB, as I feel Brooks has the starting spot locked up through this cycle at least.

Know Nothing
Post #3
Wednesday September 21, 2016 11:47pm

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Doh! How did I forget Gooch!!!

Dave
Post #4
Saturday September 24, 2016 11:58pm

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A bad day for Americans in the EPL:
Hyndman - Did not Dress (Lost 2-1)
Gooch - Did not dress (Lost 3-2)
Zelalem - Did not dress (Won 3-0)
Carter-Vickers - Dressed, but did not play (Won 2-1)
Cameron - Started, played 90 (Draw 1-1)

Not much better in the Championship:
Ream - Dressed, but did not play (Lost 0-4)
De La Torre - Did not dress (Lost 0-4)
Yedlin - Started, played 75 (Draw 1-1)
Lichaj - Started played 90 (Lost 2-1)
Williams - Started played 90 (Won 1-0)
Novakovich - Did not dress (Won 1-0)
Holmes - Did not dress (Lost 1-0)

hamsamwich
Post #5
Sunday September 25, 2016 1:33am

Joined Oct 2013
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Holmes plays in league One for league leaders Scunthorpe, he scored today.

cleancutimage
Post #6
Sunday September 25, 2016 1:35am

Joined Oct 2013
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Also, Spector went 90 for Birmingham.

navi8132
New York
Post #7
Sunday September 25, 2016 1:50pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 3,120
Lack of Lichaj on USMNT is the biggest outrage to me. Has been consistently good for club AND country for 6 years.

camparkinson
Post #8
Sunday September 25, 2016 2:52pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 332
Original post from navi8132

Lack of Lichaj on USMNT is the biggest outrage to me. Has been consistently good for club AND country for 6 years.


I agree, makes no sense given the programs consistent lack of options at outside back... very frustrating...

hamsamwich
Post #9
Sunday September 25, 2016 2:52pm

Joined Oct 2013
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I am a big fan of Lichaj, just another good player from Chicago area. But the reality is that Yedlin has been worth being pushed in front of Lichaj. Chandler vs Cameron vs Lichaj vs player X to be the backup to Yedlin is a worthwhile argument, but there's nothing that Yedlin can't do better than Lichaj. Unless we are talking about having Lichaj get a chance at LB, that's a whole other argument and one that has decent merit. But that would be just another guy playing out of position.

snipes87
Cleveland, Ohio
Post #10
Sunday September 25, 2016 3:12pm

Joined Jul 2013
Total Posts: 893
When has Lichaj been good for country in the last 6 years?
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Live490
Texas
Post #11
Sunday September 25, 2016 4:44pm

Joined Mar 2013
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He was great in 2011 then was not given a chance. He played and played yet JK gave a chance to Chandler who sucked, didn't play for club, was coming from injury, or was not fully committed. Torres, Shea, and Beasley were given shots at LB over him.

USsoccerfan90
Post #12
Sunday September 25, 2016 5:41pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 63
Playing Lichaj at left back wouldn't really be out of position. He plays there for Forrest every once in a while and its where he played when Dolo was still the RB. He's a little like Fabian in that he is equally good with both feet.

dolcem
Post #13
Sunday September 25, 2016 10:24pm

Joined Nov 2012
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Eric Lichaj? Are you guys kidding? He's a fringe NT player at best. I was excited about him six years ago but then I watched him be a part of one of the worst defenses in Premier League history. He wasn't even good enough to get much PT and when he did play, they'd usually concede at least three goals. He's not a Premier League caliber player. Maybe he's not as bad as Bornstein but he doesn't offer anything going forward, either, unlike DaMarcus Beasley, for example (who is a USNT legend and was a very important presence in the locker room). Like just about any top tier coach, Klinsmann likes to have modern fullbacks. There are probably several MLS guys I'd rather see than Lichaj.

The other thing is that if Klinsmann's worst decision in terms of roster selection was not picking a mediocre Championship left back, I'd say then he has done a pretty damn good job. The response to something like this shows how ridiculous these keyboard warriors are with the their FIFA lineups.
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Live490
Texas
Post #14
Sunday September 25, 2016 10:59pm

Joined Mar 2013
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I dont really think they are complaining just about his inclusion. It's his stupid and weird decisions in trying other options instead of what's there. JK preached that players had to be playing yet he called in Parkhurst and Chandler who were not playing over Lichaj. Then gave chandler many chances after he sucked and sucked and sucked. Then, he decided to try Torres out there. Last call was using Beasley, which i was ok with because Romano moved him there with Puebla. JKs worst roster decision was not taking LD to 2014. Then taking Wondo, playing Davis vs Germany, taking Zusi and Bedoya and Green over LD. Now that was his worst decision. He has fixed it though recently but still does some head scratchers. Johnny Bornstein is probably better than Lichaj then now, as he has made a liga MX final and had been constantly playing at a better league than thr championship.

dolcem
Post #15
Monday September 26, 2016 8:30pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,805
Original post from Live490

I dont really think they are complaining just about his inclusion. It's his stupid and weird decisions in trying other options instead of what's there. JK preached that players had to be playing yet he called in Parkhurst and Chandler who were not playing over Lichaj. Then gave chandler many chances after he sucked and sucked and sucked. Then, he decided to try Torres out there. Last call was using Beasley, which i was ok with because Romano moved him there with Puebla. JKs worst roster decision was not taking LD to 2014. Then taking Wondo, playing Davis vs Germany, taking Zusi and Bedoya and Green over LD. Now that was his worst decision. He has fixed it though recently but still does some head scratchers. Johnny Bornstein is probably better than Lichaj then now, as he has made a liga MX final and had been constantly playing at a better league than thr championship.


LD showed up to a friendly three months before the World CUp fatter than most of the people on this forum and was playing like crap in the MLS. This was after he took a sabbatical from soccer and then publicly stated that he couldn't train 100% anymore. All of this when our manager's puts more emphasis on fitness than anything else. I don't understand how people actually think he should have been included in the final 23. He wasn't fit enough to play for 90 minutes and having him on the bench would have been a massive distraction and created a lot of bad energies in the locker room, not to mention completely undermine everything Klinsmann had been working at the past three years. Cutting him clearly sent a message to the players (it doesn't matter who you are, you still have to want it as bad as anyone) and it worked.

But again, if the only criticism people can bring up is he picked a couple different players that they don't use in their FIFA lineups, they're only embarrassing themselves. There is no player that everyone thinks should be a part of the team that isn't (LD was the only exception, and no way he should have been taken to Brazil), and there is no player that was an important part of the team that clearly shouldn't have been there. Everyone bitched and moaned about Kyle Beckerman yet he proved all of the critics wrong in Brazil. Yeah, Zusi sucks, but the sad part is that he's one of our best wingers, and his fitness and attitude makes him an easy pick.
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