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MSantoine
Post #1
Monday September 19, 2016 8:41pm

Joined Nov 2012
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Not sure if anyone is watching this ( Doubt many are) but hockey has brought back its own world cup. This year there are 8 teams. They include the usual suspects, US, Canada, Russia, Sweden, Finland, Czech Republic as well as a Team Europe (players from other Euro countries where their country would get steam rolled) and the one that I think is interesting, Team North America. Team North America is made up of U23 players from Canada & US who were deemed not good enough for team US or team Canada. They arguably have looked like the best team in the tourney. It will be interesting to see if they keep performing and even if they beat US or Canada.

The reason I think it is interesting as a big debate always comes down to the young unproven player, vs the older veteran (ie Pulisic sitting behind Bedoya, Beckerman starting over Kitchen/Stanko, Gonzalez starting over CCV). I know its a different sport but hockey is VERY similar to soccer in terms of career shelf life, style of play, player development, etc. I think the team North America could be eye openeing in showing that things that people hang ther hat on (experience, "grit", etc) may be very over rated.

blaise213
Post #2
Monday September 19, 2016 9:12pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,364
Good post . I caught part of one of the games and didn't understand what team North America was.

Used to be more of a hockey fan back in the days but today's players aren't as good as the superstars of the past.

As for a soccer comparison, there was an ESPN article the other day about how the youngsters need to push the older players out.

http://www.espnfc.us/united-states/story/2941...

coverby
Post #3
Monday September 19, 2016 9:15pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 459
In the 2010 winter Olympics in Canada, the US used a much younger team sans Langenbrunner and a few other others instead of the older guard of players. The younger guys including Kane and Kessel seemed to add life to the team and hunger which lead them to the silver medal. Watching the US team the other day they looked like they were going through the motions and didn't want to get hurt before their season.

dfw_fan
DfW
Post #4
Monday September 19, 2016 9:46pm

Joined Apr 2013
Total Posts: 849
Original post from MSantoine

Not sure if anyone is watching this ( Doubt many are) but hockey has brought back its own world cup. This year there are 8 teams. They include the usual suspects, US, Canada, Russia, Sweden, Finland, Czech Republic as well as a Team Europe (players from other Euro countries where their country would get steam rolled) and the one that I think is interesting, Team North America. Team North America is made up of U23 players from Canada & US who were deemed not good enough for team US or team Canada. They arguably have looked like the best team in the tourney. It will be interesting to see if they keep performing and even if they beat US or Canada.

The reason I think it is interesting as a big debate always comes down to the young unproven player, vs the older veteran (ie Pulisic sitting behind Bedoya, Beckerman starting over Kitchen/Stanko, Gonzalez starting over CCV). I know its a different sport but hockey is VERY similar to soccer in terms of career shelf life, style of play, player development, etc. I think the team North America could be eye openeing in showing that things that people hang ther hat on (experience, "grit", etc) may be very over rated.


Also, our hockey young talent, duration of season/play in a year is more or less equal to other countries as well. NHL is probably the best paid of all the leagues.
That would contribute to the talent pool

Dave
Post #5
Tuesday September 20, 2016 12:34am

Joined Jul 2014
Total Posts: 662
Original post from blaise213

As for a soccer comparison, there was an ESPN article the other day about how the youngsters need to push the older players out.

http://www.espnfc.us/united-states/story/2941...


IMO a number of the younger players have already successfully pushed some of the older generation out. I think we have finally seen the last of Wondo & Beckerman with this team, thanks to the play of Wood, Bradley, & Kitchen. With the play of Pulisic, Arriola & Gooch, coupled with the return of Zardes, we should be nearing the end of the line for either Zusi or Bedoya (possibly both). That leaves Jones, Dempsey, & Howard as the remaining elder statesmen of the pool. And when you consider the length it's taken Jones to recover from his most recent injury and the current unknowns surrounding when Dempsey will return from his irregular hart condition, it's possible we may be down to just Howard in the near future.

I still expect a number of the more experienced veterans to (Jones, Dempsey, Howard, Bedoya, & Zusi) to be involved with the team through the end of the year. The reason I say this is because we have two of our most difficult opponents/games of the Hex in November. I think we'll see a significant transition away from most of these older guys starting with the January Camp and continuing into the Hex games in 2017.

snipes87
Cleveland, Ohio
Post #6
Tuesday September 20, 2016 6:07pm

Joined Jul 2013
Total Posts: 839
Mcdavid and Eichel should definitely be on the Canadian and USA teams. It goes to show it's hard to kick out a veteran player across all sports. That Team NA was fun to watch vs Russia. If Russia didn't get fantastic goaltending then NA would have won. And you can argue Russia is the 2nd best team.
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