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Post #241
Wednesday October 12, 2016 2:49pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 2,001
Honestly didn't think it was that crappy, NZ pressed us hard and it made Kitchen Bradley and Klesjtan think about what space htey wanted to occupy, to a much greater extent we're going to get faced with that against Mexico. Def Costa Rica.

The added benefit is that while Altidore didn't produce, he looked lively and is continuing his good form. Him with Fab Pulisic, and hell even Bedoya's work rate on the flank, granted I rather have Green, will prove much more incisive.

I think most important is to realize we haven't grown into this yet, Pulisic perfomrances is still very much a commodity that needs to be ironed out further, but it represents the best we have. We're still growing into our talent.

bjelks
Post #242
Thursday October 13, 2016 7:48pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,362
Gooch is faster than bedoya and Zusi and more technical.
Kitchen is a poor man's Bradley. He's actually slower and less quality with the ball.
I've been screaming for years that D-Will should be our first choice CDM. As soon as he comes in the game he forces turnovers and is dangerous going forward.
Wood can hold up better than jozy, better work rate, more dangerous 1v1.
Julian Green was the only player on the field that showed some creativity in final 3rd.
I will play Miazaga or Vickers over Omar and Besler without thinking twice.
goalsense
BMD15
Boston
Post #243
Thursday October 13, 2016 10:20pm

Joined Oct 2015
Total Posts: 147
Original post from bjelks

Gooch is faster than bedoya and Zusi and more technical.
Kitchen is a poor man's Bradley. He's actually slower and less quality with the ball.
I've been screaming for years that D-Will should be our first choice CDM. As soon as he comes in the game he forces turnovers and is dangerous going forward.
Wood can hold up better than jozy, better work rate, more dangerous 1v1.
Julian Green was the only player on the field that showed some creativity in final 3rd.
I will play Miazaga or Vickers over Omar and Besler without thinking twice.


Deep breath in....

So are we anointing Gooch as the starter now after one good 30 minute shift in his debut against New Zealand? No doubt the kid has potential but lets ease up a little but. Bedoya is a cerebral player who may not have all the flash of others but he pretty consistently makes everyone around him better (ya know...when he's not being played as a CDM). Zusi is no world beater but experience, especially against hostile CONCACAF opposition, is never a bad thing.

No real gripes with point #2

D-Will does force turnovers and he does get into the attack. He also tends to roam around and get caught out of position (cut from the same cloth as JJ). Having a CDM who understands that their primary responsibility is to shield the back line and get the ball to the feet of our creators is, in my humble opinion, a better course of action for our team as currently built.

Wood cannot hold up better than Jozy. His work rate however is second to none. They don't exactly compliment each other at this stage and that needs to change (and they need to be given minutes together at every opportunity) if JK sticks to the 4-4-2.

I think Green helped his stock tremendously this camp as well. He deserves more looks moving forward.

Maybe Miazga & CCV can get some time in meaningless friendlies but to put them ahead of Omar/Besler at this stage of their careers is jumping the gun. They'll get their chance but lets see them get some first team minutes for their clubs first...

And exhale.
NETID
Dave
Post #244
Friday October 14, 2016 12:47am

Joined Jul 2014
Total Posts: 1,002
@BMD15 - IMO the primary goal of the past 2 games was to 1) work on team chemistry, trying to build off the Copa run & the Sept. Qualifiers; and 2) try and identify potential replacements for some of the players who might not be available due to injury.
Of the fringe players involved in these friendlies Williams, Green, & Gooch, raised their standing the most and should be in contention for call-ups for the November Qualifiers. I'm not advocating that they should be starters....but they could be impact subs or provide coverage in the event of injuries.

@bjelks - Players like Zusi, Gonzalez, Besler, & Bedoya may (and I stress may) be on their way out...but they still have a role to play with the team. Green, Gooch, CCV, & Miazga will all have opportunities to force the issue and overtake those in front of them but it's not going to be this November. We're playing our two biggest rivals and need to start the Hex strong. I could see Green & Gooch being subs, but not as starters. Williams, being more experienced, has a chance to start but that'll depend more on the formation JK uses than his quality as a player.

I truly believe that by the end of the Hex Pulisic, Gooch, Zardes, Green, Bedoya, & Nagbe are all going to be part of a rotational midfield so long as we play a 4-1-3-2 or 4-2-3-1 formation. Bradley will be the ever present anchor in either formation. The selection of starters Vs. impact subs will come down to who our opponent may be.

skangles
DC
Post #245
Friday October 14, 2016 4:34am

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 5,443
Original post from hamsamwich

@db707- welcome to Colorado. Supposedly we are getting the Home qualifier in June although it's not set in stone. There's a decent scene here in town, you can usually catch me at the bulldog on stout and broadway for the USA games.


I was in Denver during last year's US vs Mexico friendly and I caught the game at the Bulldog. It was the game that was played on that awful field in San Antonio. The Bulldog is a nice place but there was too much in game singing for me.

bjelks
Post #246
Friday October 14, 2016 4:38am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,362
I don't mind losing to quality opposition like Colombia or Argentina, but I do have a problem losing when we play timid and sit back.

I much rather lose playing with young players that are fearless and attack minded than the latter.
goalsense
db707
Post #247
Friday October 14, 2016 8:05am

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 1,016
Original post from skangles

I was in Denver during last year's US vs Mexico friendly and I caught the game at the Bulldog. It was the game that was played on that awful field in San Antonio. The Bulldog is a nice place but there was too much in game singing for me.


Ah, yes, that abomination. Can't forget there have been times before Cuba where we risked our players' health on poor pitches needlessly. Bulldog's ok, location's not the greatest, I do want to check out other bars in the area for games.

hamsamwich
Post #248
Friday October 14, 2016 1:41pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 3,212
You got the Three Lions on Colfax it's an English pub, and then there's my favorite: Mexican restaurants and getting loud when USA scores a goal. I have watched the last few games on unimas in my living room if I'm super honest. The Rapids games are a good crowd this year as well. And yes I'm down for a YA field trip to the USA qualifier and/or the Azteca.

BMD15
Boston
Post #249
Friday October 14, 2016 2:43pm

Joined Oct 2015
Total Posts: 147
@ Dave - I completely agree with the goals of the last two games. I was just trying to temper what I felt was some over-excitement in the original post in regards to what we saw over those games. Some players helped their stock, some served notice (yet again in some cases) that they are fringe players for a reason. But there were no earth shattering revelations in my opinion, just some shuffling of the depth charts at this stage.
NETID
TheTruth
Post #250
Friday October 14, 2016 4:25pm

Joined Dec 2013
Total Posts: 950
Some of you guys remind me of Dan Akroyd in Dragnet. He sees one tiny piece of evidence, say a shoe print, then he goes on a 5 minute spiel of drawing conclusions of who the killer is, how he did it, what the name of his 1st grade teacher was, . . .

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