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cudevil
Post #16
Friday July 29, 2016 9:37pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 989
Original post from Live490

Lol Dempsey was always in LDs shadow. LD was a bigger game player. LD eliminated Dempsey and Fulham with two assists. Dempsey waa not a good captain. He stayed shut when LD was cut. As a captain, you should say something. Id want all the best players and he took the opportunity and stayed quiet so he would not have been overshadowed by Donovan. We havent replaced LD, Cherundolo, and people already want to replace Dempsey lol. The key player for us. Come on.


LD was a bigger game player? I'm not sure about that. LD owned Mexico, and one of the greatest moments in US soccer history, but CD is pretty nails.

MSantoine
Post #17
Saturday July 30, 2016 11:53am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 3,723
Original post from Live490

Lol Dempsey was always in LDs shadow. LD was a bigger game player. LD eliminated Dempsey and Fulham with two assists. Dempsey waa not a good captain. He stayed shut when LD was cut. As a captain, you should say something. Id want all the best players and he took the opportunity and stayed quiet so he would not have been overshadowed by Donovan. We havent replaced LD, Cherundolo, and people already want to replace Dempsey lol. The key player for us. Come on.


Actually not saying anything about Donovan being cut was absolutely the right thing to do. If he speaks out against the decision there's a divide on the locker room. It almost forces the guys to take sides. If he came out and said it was a good move he gets killed in media and certain guys (Bradley, wondo, zusi, beckeman, evags) get pissed. It was a no win situation to comment on it roster selection is the coaches job. Players play. It shouldn't matter who the other ten starters are. You do your job.

Live490
Texas
Post #18
Saturday July 30, 2016 4:25pm

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 1,174
But as a captain, wouldnt you speak ? I get your points and agree to a certain point. But if i know a player can provide way more help than others and am seeing he outperformed everyone on that fitness beep test, i would make a comment to the coach. You want the best players on there with you. Bradley said it. Howard said it. Strange Dempsey didn't. Look at when LD scores in the last years, deuce rarely goes up to celebrate. But when he scored he went crazy. And i love dempsey, second favorite player.

blaise213
Post #19
Saturday July 30, 2016 6:02pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,994
If Dempsey is out of the picture, my forward list is:

Wood
Johannsson
Boyd
Morris
Siebatcheu

TheTruth
Post #20
Saturday July 30, 2016 9:50pm

Joined Dec 2013
Total Posts: 950
A. Dumb thread. Makes no sense to talk about "replacing" a player. Deuce is a good player no doubt. A lot of goals. And I love it when a guy succeeds without being a stellar athlete. Gives the rest of us mortals hope. Lando was the best player on the team for 10 straight years and we've done fine w/o him (don't get me wrong I'm the biggest Lando fan on here. . .).

B. "Leadership" my ass. "Attitude" and "swagger" maybe, but "leadership"? No.

hamsamwich
Post #21
Sunday July 31, 2016 12:08am

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 3,212
You say it makes no sense replacing a player then why all the gripes over Beckerman, Jones and the rest??? Because most want to see USA play good soccer and win- and trotting out Dempsey on his last legs should be saved for special occasions.

And yes attitude and swagger as you put them, when on the field against potentially better teams is exactly the type of player we need. You can disagree but Dempsey has always been a leader if only by his status, work ethic and style of play. He was the captain at the last World Cup as well.

But we need to be better.

TheTruth
Post #22
Sunday July 31, 2016 1:25am

Joined Dec 2013
Total Posts: 950
Meh, I say Lando was a better leader. Bradley a better leader.

Yeah, there was another thread a while back about "replacing" Beckerman. What a load of shit. Yeah, I'm really worried about replacing Beckerman.

I ought to start a thread about replacing Wondo. I'm actually starting to think that Zardes is the spiritual replacement for Wondo.

hamsamwich
Post #23
Sunday July 31, 2016 1:40am

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 3,212
Zardes would be good in that role. Bradley is a better leader, so was Tim Howard. Landon, not so much. But that's still 2 basically done unless Howard finds the fountain of youth. I suppose we would agree to disagree except for the fact Clint can't play forever and is still one of the first names on the team sheet. Hell, as @Dave said, we've played 4-4-2 to accommodate Dempsey, our best player. If you don't think we have to replace him I'm not sure which USA you've been watching.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #24
Sunday July 31, 2016 7:18am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,450
I say Dempsey will be gradually replaced. Won't be surprised to see a young Attacking corps in next summers Gold Cup: Wood, Morris, Boyd, Green, Johannsson, Zardes, Pulisic, Rubin. With Green, Zardes, Rubin, Morris all capable of playing as wide FWDS as well.

This is the year the younger attacking players finally become integral USMNT players and supplant some veterans. Hard to see Jozy getting back in if all of these guys are producing this year.

It will also be interesting to see Zelalem, Hyndman, and Stanko continue to progress as CM's this season.

Dave
Post #25
Monday August 1, 2016 4:42pm

Joined Jul 2014
Total Posts: 1,003
Original post from 2tone

It will also be interesting to see Zelalem, Hyndman, and Stanko continue to progress as CM's this season.


I'm actually more interested in Canouse's progress as a CM than Stanko. Russell was a major part of the U-20 squad that had Zelalem, Hyndman, & Rubin. His injury right before the tournament IMO was a significant impact to the team. If he fully recovers he is a player who has all the tools to be a great replacement for Bradley in a couple years.

kicksNgiggles10
Birmingham
Post #26
Tuesday August 2, 2016 2:02pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 572
Original post from admsghs27

Yeah tell that to your great grand children....
And yes Wondo will be forever known for the choker and part of USA's worst games ever.. Because he just has to be involved..
Here's a top 3 list of american players that will be remembered by their silliness.......
1. Wondo
2. Bornstein
3. Clark

Sooooo adms is Trump? makes so much sense now....

hamsamwich
Post #27
Saturday August 27, 2016 4:24am

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 3,212
- Can Altidore stay healthy to be that guy??
- Bobby wood plays with an arrogance, I've always been a fan of his.
- Zardes has a good all around game.
The other striker challengers being Green and Morris, who both could find themselves as spot starters at minimum for the USA. Rubio Rubin as always is the wildcard.

But that's on the field stuff... After Landon left, the fans and the team needed someone else to make the critical plays and be the face of the team. Try hard Michael Bradley is admirable, but not the type of guy to get you out of your seat. Clint made those plays. The goal vs Ghana to open the last World Cup was typical Dempsey... So who will carry the weight of expectations to score those goals??

TheTruth
Post #28
Saturday August 27, 2016 4:53am

Joined Dec 2013
Total Posts: 950
Zardes has a good all around game? What the fuck have you been smoking?

He has the opposite of a good all around game. Hes' a genetic freak and a nice guy. That's it.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #29
Saturday August 27, 2016 6:25am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,450
Say what you want about Zardes, but the guy is hard to stop when he is having a good game. Besides Deuce, Zardes was the USMNT best attacker in the Copa America.

He isn't a consistent player. But a good option to have off the bench IMO.

bjelks
Post #30
Saturday August 27, 2016 1:21pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,363
I'd be fine with Lyndon Gooch replacing Bradley right now. Bradley hasn't made an impact against a good team in years.

Wood, Ajo, Rubin, Boyd, Green are all more quality than Morris right now.

Zardes and Yedlin are the best athletes in the pool, but their technique and decision making is a problem with their development that can't be fixed. Yedlin's decision making is worse. Zardes' technique is serviceable if you keep the game simple for him.

It doesn't matter who's at striker if we don't play with a #10 or wingers that can get behind.
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