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Footyskillz
Arlington, VA
Post #1
Wednesday October 31, 2012 2:00pm

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I was thinking earlier about Asia (specifically Japan and Korea) and how we are seeing more and more players from those nations emerge and do very well. It got me wondering what they are doing that the US is not?

I understand our youth system is broken but I have no idea if it's similar to Japan/Korea's, and if so how come it's 'working' for them? They likely run the J-League differently than MLS-is that what makes the difference?
USMNT, Porto, and Bundesliga fanatic - T: @gouldinho_j
rambo
Chi town
Post #2
Wednesday October 31, 2012 4:06pm

Joined Jun 2012
Total Posts: 210
This might interest you a little:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqLZsWMHzb4&li...

Footyskillz
Arlington, VA
Post #3
Wednesday October 31, 2012 4:50pm

Joined Jun 2012
Total Posts: 291
Wow. That's amazing. I'm not going to lie, I have a huge interest in the development of the game here in the States but I never played the game until after high school. I really feel like everyone looks down on people like me who have discovered the game, fell in love, and want to coach/help but have no playing experience.
USMNT, Porto, and Bundesliga fanatic - T: @gouldinho_j
rambo
Chi town
Post #4
Wednesday October 31, 2012 5:11pm

Joined Jun 2012
Total Posts: 210
That's how a lot of my friends are as well, but I think that's a good thing as long as people have passion for soccer!

I'll be honest, I have only watched about 10 seconds of that interview, but I thought it might be relevant.

blaise213
Post #5
Wednesday October 31, 2012 6:10pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 3,255
@Footyskillz

The Asian Countries don't have the same problem we do in the US. We have to many competing sports (MLB, NFL, NHL, NBA, MMA). Japan only has baseball to compete with soccer development.

I've said this before. Cheap ownership is ruining the MLS. This is a major problem with the youth system. These owners can't even build a world class stadium in a prime location. The problem is these owners have to invest in land to build world class academies and they don't.

My opinion and blue-print of a successful academy.

* Purchase a few acres of land and create a village setting (not far from main stadium)
* Build a "unique" small stadium - 5,000 -10,000 stadium +2 to 3 training fields. This stadium can be used for CCL games, academy games, and WPS games. My ideal look is the training ground like the field you see on fifa 12 before the match starts.
* Include "Dorm" Living quarters that can accommodate reserve players and low income academy players
* Most important - Team up with Wounded Warrior Project/hospital for a rehab center that can be used to treat soldiers and civilians and also help the players. This will generate the $$$ for operating costs. (government and insurance money)

tylercocinas
Post #6
Wednesday October 31, 2012 6:26pm

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Cheap ownership? The MLS has a lot of stuff on its plate. They have to have get soccer specific stadiums, raise salaries, increase the salary cap, increase the level of youth game, get more matches for 18-23yr. olds.

And on top of that where are they going to get these parcels of land from? Then you're asking them to build ANOTHER stadium? Stadium projects have to be approved by local governments and communities. It can take years (look at DC United....).

Philosophically your ideas are great. If it were in any way shape or form possible for us to do any of those things, sure we would be in a great position but it's simply unrealistic.

Red
NY
Post #7
Wednesday October 31, 2012 6:38pm

Joined Jul 2012
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He is half right(Tom San.) Technique is everything, especially if it can be implemented at a young age. Saying that I have seen a number of players start to play in their early teens and develop wonderful technique.

Imo, the younger players we have seen coming through the youth system have much better technical ability then previous generations. Junior Flores, Marc Pelosi and A. Gudio all have wonderful technique as do most of the -Mexican-Americans as well in our system.

The next generation(over next 20 years) will be vastly more polished in their control, dribbling, and passing of the football. I have no fear about that...nor do I fear about the coaching. Right now we have some imcompetent fools teaching these kids, but my generation will breed the first real football coaches that will understand how to deliver a message to kids.

blaise213
Post #8
Wednesday October 31, 2012 6:50pm

Joined Sep 2012
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[quote]Original post from tylercocinas

Cheap ownership? The MLS has a lot of stuff on its plate. They have to have get soccer specific stadiums, raise salaries, increase the salary cap, increase the level of youth game, get more matches for 18-23yr. olds.

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Cheap Ownership - Lew Wolf (SJ Earthquakes)

http://www.sjearthquakes.com/news/2012/02/qua...

The worst stadium I have ever seen. You know how many fortune 500 companies are near this location. Partnership perhaps ??????

At least build something that looks like Livestrong or NYRB. This is a bunch of highschool bleachers with a roof. A $60 million stadium, What a joke.

Use that land for an academy

tylercocinas
Post #9
Thursday November 1, 2012 5:12am

Joined Aug 2012
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LOL Lew Wolff? AKA the owner of the Oakland A's AKA Moneyball? He's the cheapest owner in every sport he invests in but frankly his model has worked, evidenced by his success in MLB and MLS.

Also, the stadium can be closed off eventually to bring the total capacity to around 20,000+. For sure, the stadium is not a palace compared to SKC or NYRB but for a team thats been playing at Buck Shaw it's a damn good home.

Didn't the Quakes just open up a training facility not to long ago as well? So now they'll have a brand new stadium and a training facility? You can't be too mad at that broham.

KoreaSteve
Post #10
Thursday November 1, 2012 4:53pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1
I lived in Korea and Japan for about 5 years and I can also say that, literally 'every' Korean between the ages of 12 to about 50 years old (in Korea at least) has a team. Most of them just play kick abouts with their mates but there is organization, they have formations, uniforms and usually get one of their subs to ref the game. Also, there are way more futsal pitches then we have in the states in public park and such which definitely helps with their control. Not even mentioning their academy systems, which are also better than anything we have in the states, just the sheer percentage of boys they have playing the game. Im surprised theyre not farther ahead of the US at this point.

rambo
Chi town
Post #11
Thursday November 1, 2012 7:39pm

Joined Jun 2012
Total Posts: 210
Did not know it was that popular in Korea.

Coach Kev
Savannah, GA
Post #12
Thursday November 1, 2012 10:02pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 283
Original post from Footyskillz

Wow. That's amazing. I'm not going to lie, I have a huge interest in the development of the game here in the States but I never played the game until after high school. I really feel like everyone looks down on people like me who have discovered the game, fell in love, and want to coach/help but have no playing experience.


I am sorry you have had that experience. I coach now but have played all of my life (was even a high school and USSF ref). That being said I had no idea how to coach when I started. I had to learn. If you love the game (and play now) there is no reason you shouldn't coach. Just learn the game. There is SO MUCH MORE than technique involved in coaching. I have had kids that can dribble around everyone in a pickup game but put them on a proper field, with a proper team and they are lost.

More kids play soccer than all the other sports combined. And that isn't a worldwide stat, I mean in this country! This country needs people like you! Keep learning, watching, playing, coaching, talking, etc.!
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CBoyd3142
Probably far from where you are...
Post #13
Friday November 2, 2012 12:38am

Joined Aug 2012
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@CoachKev - well said. @Footy - as another former player who will probably play until my knees and ankles explode, I could care less about playing experience. Unless these people looking down on you play professionally and you're trying to get on their level (which I highly doubt), then there's really not much that separates you from them. A lot of former players pull the Uncle Rico and dwell on the "golden days" when they could punt a ball over the moon, clearly giving them the thought process that no one knows the game like they do. Unfortunately, they have to be home by 7 to eat pot roast with Mom and watch "The Voice".
Toffee Fan....for the moment
Coach Kev
Savannah, GA
Post #14
Friday November 2, 2012 3:05pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 283
Original post from CBoyd3142

A lot of former players pull the Uncle Rico and dwell on the "golden days"


HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
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