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dunlopp9987
Post #31
Friday July 1, 2016 2:54pm

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Original post from TheTruth

Has that dude put on any weight yet?


I doubt it. It's crazy though, I can't imagine he's much smaller than Pulisic, yet Puli has demonstrated that he knows how to use his body well to shield an opponent or hold the ball up.
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hamsamwich
Post #32
Friday July 1, 2016 5:41pm

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The irrational Julian Green hate is retarded. I will now back him as I did Bob Wood as most of you were hating... Green has a shot with both feet, is quick, etc. So he had a setback- most players do. Good things to come this year for Green is the way I see it. Hop on the bandwagon now if you dare.

dunlopp9987
Post #33
Friday July 1, 2016 5:52pm

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Where is he playing again this year?
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hamsamwich
Post #34
Friday July 1, 2016 5:57pm

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Stuttgart if I'm not mistaken. Life is about second chances, apparently many of the asshats here don't believe in them... Forgetting of course, his first chance went pretty well for USA. Patience is a virtue you dill pickles.

goods
Post #35
Friday July 1, 2016 6:58pm

Joined Mar 2014
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I wonder how much time Green and Sonora get there. That maybe a nice development for both their international careers and the USMNT.

navi8132
New York
Post #36
Friday July 1, 2016 11:16pm

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Wood started performing with his club, then he started performing for USMNT well. If Green performs well for club, then he will be given a chance. Not before.

Live490
Texas
Post #37
Saturday July 2, 2016 1:30am

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Dunloppy.. Yes he was wrong because he went against what he preached. JK stated and always said players had to be playing every week at highest level. Green did not even make the first team often.. So, going by JKs standards, he was wrong for taking him. He took him based on potential and being german. And if you're going to say that he was right because he scored.. Going by that metric, then JK was extremely stupid and wrong because Wondo missed his trademark shot. Bradley gave away too many passes. Altidore didnt score and he is a fwd. Took injured AJ. Those are more wrongs than rights. So yes, he was wrong. No where near the national team picture.. Not even in the top 30-40 player pool. Going by form, not basing it on potential.

hamsamwich
Post #38
Saturday July 2, 2016 9:27am

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Original post from navi8132

Wood started performing with his club, then he started performing for USMNT well. If Green performs well for club, then he will be given a chance. Not before.
Thats actually not true. Bob Wood was only playing half decent a year and a half ago to two years ago when he started receiving call ups. People bitched and moaned that others deserved it. It's only been this last year since his heroics in last summers friendlies and this past year that Wood is playing like a full USA player should... @live490 is correct when saying Jürgen is a bit hypocritical when calling in his team. I'm not saying just call Green in and put him in the XI, obviously he needs to play better and earn it. But his skill set is different than anyone we have and this move to Stuttgart is the kick in the ass Green needed. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, mine is that the kid still has skills and at 20? years old has time on his side.

Dave
Post #39
Saturday July 2, 2016 11:08pm

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@hamsamwich - While I agree, in part, that Green has a different skill set than anyone we have. That statement/assessment is changing quickly. Green has real potential and talent, but it is now time for him to realize that potential & talent. The US is on the brink of a significant transformation that will drastically change how the US plays and how they are viewed in the sport internationally.
Historically the US has been a team known for their Athleticism & Determination with a smattering of skill sprinkled in. Our teams were made up mostly of players who were considered role players for 2nd division clubs & leagues, with a couple 1st division club players to lead us. Our strengths were a strong physical defense, speed, and aerial attacks.
While the generation of players beginning to emerge still contain the traits of the previous generations they have added a level of skill we've rarely seen from US players. And we're not talking about only a half dozen players, but a truly significant number of players. Within 4 yrs the USMNT will be drastically different. If things continue along the current lines we'll have attacking options like Pulisic, Perez, Rubin, Arriola, Wright, Akale, & L. Brooks. Midfield options like Hyndman, Zelalem, Acosta, Senora, Gooch, Scott, Canouse, Arce, & De La Torre. All supported by a defensive with Miazga, Carter-Vickers, Palmer-Brown, Barbir, Redding, Olosunde, & Payne.
If Green doesn't start producing and realizing his potential he will be overtaken and be on the outside looking in as the quality of players coming up behind him actually do have skills similar to the ones he has. These are players added to a handful of veteran type players (Brooks, Yedlin, Nagbe, Wood, etc...) is going to change the way the US soccer is perceived.

hamsamwich
Post #40
Sunday July 3, 2016 2:07am

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I agree with all that however there was just no way Green was going to play at Bayern the last year and a half. His development has stalled I agree with that... But there's no way he can be acknowledged as having been passed up by others that are older and at lesser clubs. As I just said earlier, I recall the union Berlin coach benching wood because of his attitude. And now look at him. Writing off Green is not the thing to do.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #41
Sunday July 3, 2016 2:49am

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Original post from hamsamwich

I agree with all that however there was just no way Green was going to play at Bayern the last year and a half. His development has stalled I agree with that... But there's no way he can be acknowledged as having been passed up by others that are older and at lesser clubs. As I just said earlier, I recall the union Berlin coach benching wood because of his attitude. And now look at him. Writing off Green is not the thing to do.


Wood was never benched at Union Berlin due to any attitude. He was benched at 1860 Munich.

hamsamwich
Post #42
Sunday July 3, 2016 4:17am

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Yea 1860. My point is the same.

hamsamwich
Post #43
Sunday July 3, 2016 4:20am

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Either way- the skills and talents of our up and coming forward players (Wood, Pulisic, Morris for sure, others to follow) and central defenders (Brooks, Miazga, Yedlin, CCV, EPB, others) have me a lot more confident than what our future central midfielders bring. I'm concerned we have bigger holes to fill in the CM category. To get to the next level we need more than Bradley and Jones.

goods
Post #44
Sunday July 3, 2016 5:45am

Joined Mar 2014
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I read Tottenham played CCV at DM at time with their reserve team. How did he do? Will they continue to do so?

Dave
Post #45
Sunday July 3, 2016 7:30am

Joined Jul 2014
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Original post from hamsamwich

Either way- the skills and talents of our up and coming forward players (Wood, Pulisic, Morris for sure, others to follow) and central defenders (Brooks, Miazga, Yedlin, CCV, EPB, others) have me a lot more confident than what our future central midfielders bring. I'm concerned we have bigger holes to fill in the CM category. To get to the next level we need more than Bradley and Jones.


There are a number of CM options. If pushed Nagbe, Williams & Morales can fill in almost immediately. They may not be as good as Jones & Bradley....but they can fill in reasonably well. In the near future (hopefully) Hyndman, Gil, Canouse, Stanko & Senora can step into contention while younger options (Zelalem, Arce, & De La Torre) continue their development.
My bigger worry is outside back. We seem to have run into a lack of real options at these positions. Fabian, Yedlin & Chandler are playing fairly consistently in good leagues. Lichaj & Villafana play well, but can't seem to get much of a chance with the US Nats. Then we have a couple players who don't see much time with their clubs or are with youth teams....Payne, Olosunde, & Fossey. We just don't seem to have many options now or in the future at the moment.

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