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Post #16
Thursday June 30, 2016 11:17am

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I may be in the minority but Im onboard with Fab at LB. We;re already starting to see some attacking talent. Assuming we stick with a 4-3-3 going forward that leaves 3 spots for the following guys in the next 2 years:

Dempsey
Jozy
Wood
Zardes
Morris
Rubin
Aron
Boyd
Pulisic

Now I know Clint is on the downslope but clearly still has it. Jozy is Jozy. Boyd, Rubin, & Aron are HUGE injury question marks. But as you see thats 9 realistic options for 3 spots (8 if you think Pulisic can come inside as the CAM). Move Fab to one of those spots and now its 8 for 2 spots. Fab is clearly our best option at LB right now. I think he's also clearly our best option at LW. However I think the drop at LB from Fab to Besler/Chandler/Shea/Villafana/Payne is much more than the drop from Fab to Wood/Morris/Rubin.

To answer the question I think our biggest hole is attacking midfielder. All of our CM prospects are more possession/holding types (Hyndman, Zelalem, Acosta, Gil). Other than Pulisic we dont have that dangerous midfielder that you have to keep the ball away from.

Rey Regicide
Post #17
Thursday June 30, 2016 12:05pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 2,001
I must say it's been weird

It's weird that Cameron doesn't get trot out there at CDM, when he's proven he can play there, almost as much as he has RB

It's weird that if we're going to go with dempsey as a proper CF, that we do'nt bring in complimentary guys like Finlay, or Amarikwa, I know they haven't been considered in previous camps, but guys like those are the obvious complement, not wood. Wood is a replacement for Dempsey, and actually Zardes too, even though Zardes gives a hell of an effort to be a wide player.

It's weird that Sascha hasn't been called in or the nexus of hte Redbull midfield, that's shown itself to be veyr very good, Dax included. I mean even if you don't believe in them you have to admit that they have been better than Bradley, Mix, etc... you have to bring those guys in and settle it for yourself... but then..

It's weird that even though JK espouses a change in play for the NMT he doesn't utilize Nagbe, Nguyen etc. Those guys are different players, will allow for different play, and they wouldn't take anything away from Jermaine or Bradley... It's been weird that THOSE two haven't been given more of a trial.

In spite of all this, he's gotten results. Probably not as much as some of us would have liked, but the only opinion that matters, truthfully, is Gulati. And Gulati accepts him in the face of MLS owners and businessmen who detest JK's open and frank attitude he has about the place of MLS and it's quality on the competitive world stage. It's been weird, thrilling, frustrating, inspiring all at once.

USAGunner
West Palm Beach
Post #18
Thursday June 30, 2016 1:10pm

Joined Jul 2013
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Rey, Wood and Dempsey are not alike. Not a replacement. Dempsey is best as a withdrawn forward, given space and allowed to freestyle. He doesn't make runs (good ones at least), doesn't hold the ball up (to distribute it at least). Wood is best as a target forward, makes great runs, is strong and holds the ball up.
Wood = Altidore replacement not Dempsey.
Zardes is not like any of them. I've said for the longest and this tournament proved it, Zardes IS a wide player. Where he can track back and play some defense, use his tremendous about of work ethic. Where he can make long runs using his speed down the side and create space for people in the middle. He is not a Center Forward. His touch isn't good enough, his spatial awareness isn't good enough, and his finishing isn't close to good enough to be a proper CF.
Really Zardes is a better touch and slightly better awareness from being a very good Wing. Certainly not world class (his touch will never be that good). But a very good wing especially for USMNT. A poor man's Theo Walcott.
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Rey Regicide
Post #19
Thursday June 30, 2016 1:16pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 2,001
You don't have to be like someone to be in their way.

Joe Montana/Steve Young.

Wood should play CF or the forward that would do the less running. Pulisic would be a SS in the true form. Wood would give it a good college try, but he's not a del piero or young totti.

Dempsey is not a mobile target, like Donovan.

Wood is pretty athletic, broad and strong.

I think Zardes could play wing, like Wenger thought Henry would be better suited for when he first coached him at Monaco... or was that Juve who thought that of him... But Zardes is schooled as a forward.

But serioulsy, wood zardes dempsey pulisic a guy like arriola, gyau, green etc.. you would choose 3 out of those, you would choose Wood Zardes and Dempsey? That they would all perform in their "positions" to plan? Didn't we see that not work too well?

I feel that Pulisic Wood Arriola would work better (providing Arriola was on Zardes professional exp level.)

hamsamwich
Post #20
Thursday June 30, 2016 5:29pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 3,212
Pulisic - Wood - Green ????
------ Rubin -----

Will Julian Green make the most of his move this year? The kid has all sorts of talent and has had his ups and downs. People are forgetting about him, but now that he doesn't have to compete with players miles more experienced than him, Green is set up to have a decent year and return to the USMNT with a chip on his shoulder. I am a member of the Paul Arriola fan club, but if Green can get "it", I would love to see what happens to our forward play. ***if Rubio Rubin can stay healthy, he would be a great fit to play underneath Wood...

dolcem
Post #21
Thursday June 30, 2016 10:51pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,805
Original post from rainORshine

and yes, sacha is the most complete/consistent CAM in program and has been for years. who would have have guessed hed come back to MLS and absolutely dominate?



Better than Bradley and Jones??? I love it!
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admsghs27
Post #22
Thursday June 30, 2016 11:20pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 6,060
Green ??? who is that lol what ever happened to that guy... ? Can you believe he made the WC roster and scored a goal and couldn't
even make the gold cup roster let alone Copa america...

Live490
Texas
Post #23
Friday July 1, 2016 12:37am

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 1,174
He had not even played more than 5 games with Bayern and made the cut lol. Like the german's pet or something.

dunlopp9987
Post #24
Friday July 1, 2016 1:40am

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 2,642
Original post from Live490

He had not even played more than 5 games with Bayern and made the cut lol. Like the german's pet or something.


I could be wrong, but wasn't he the only one of our players to score against Belgium? The goal that got us back in the game?

Say what you will about how he has progressed since, but go back two summers ago and tell me Jurgen made the wrong decision in bringing him to Brazil.
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admsghs27
Post #25
Friday July 1, 2016 3:11am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 6,060
Original post from dunlopp9987

I could be wrong, but wasn't he the only one of our players to score against Belgium? The goal that got us back in the game?

Say what you will about how he has progressed since, but go back two summers ago and tell me Jurgen made the wrong decision in bringing him to Brazil.


Yes he did Donovan could of done much more heck maybe with him we would of won the group and played Algeria once again....
About a year ago Cameron and Dempsey scored against them even tho we lost 4-2... But yes we could score on them And yes no Donovan....

dunlopp9987
Post #26
Friday July 1, 2016 3:57am

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 2,642
Original post from admsghs27

Yes he did Donovan could of done much more heck maybe with him we would of won the group and played Algeria once again....
About a year ago Cameron and Dempsey scored against them even tho we lost 4-2... But yes we could score on them And yes no Donovan....


This entire post has absolutely nothing to do with what I said. Not a single thing, lol.

You're ridiculous, kid.
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admsghs27
Post #27
Friday July 1, 2016 4:16am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 6,060
Original post from dunlopp9987

This entire post has absolutely nothing to do with what I said. Not a single thing, lol.

You're ridiculous, kid.

Yeah but you always do similar post's so yeah....

dunlopp9987
Post #28
Friday July 1, 2016 4:32am

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 2,642
Original post from admsghs27

Yeah but you always do similar post's so yeah....


Again, this has nothing to do with anything. It's the equivalent of verbal garbage. Also, posts isn't possessive. Get em' next time, though.

Back to what I was actually talking about...Julian Green. I think he might actually benefit from how far US soccer has come in even the last 5 years. Because we have so many young, talented kids playing overseas right now, he has sort of become an after thought. No one is really talking about him anymore. Which is GREAT. Can you imagine if he would've scored that goal in 06 or 2010? People would be labeling him the next Adu right now, a kid who had a ton of promise and has fizzled out. But because we hav guys like Puli, Wood, Hyndman, Zelalem, Akale, etc, it allows the spotlight to be shined away from Julian.

He is still young, and there is clearly talent there. Hopefully he can start to figure things out and develop some more consistency. Because he would be a huge addition to our forward corps. But for right now, I'm glad we're not really bringing his name up all that often.
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TheTruth
Post #29
Friday July 1, 2016 5:26am

Joined Dec 2013
Total Posts: 950
Has that dude put on any weight yet?

admsghs27
Post #30
Friday July 1, 2016 7:58am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 6,060
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