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snipes87
Cleveland, Ohio
Post #211
Saturday June 4, 2016 2:48pm

Joined Jul 2013
Total Posts: 893
I can't believe Blaise knows which players are better than JK and the coaching staff. Amazing he isn't getting paid by US Soccer to make roster decisions instead of Jurgs. How and why would Jurgs leave off so many players that are clearly better?
If you don't love it, leave it, USA #1
TheTruth
Post #212
Saturday June 4, 2016 2:56pm

Joined Dec 2013
Total Posts: 950
I wouldn't say it was a beat down, but Colombia dominated. Don't kid yourselves, guys - we didn't "play well" in the 1st half. Colombia was content to yield possession to us. After they were 2 up then they took possession in the 2nd half to try to kill off the game and the ole's came out. And of course we had to push and push so eventually we were going to have some offensive pressure in the 2nd half (and expose ourselves to a potential 3-0, 4-0).

This is what was supposed to happen. Unfortunately the 2 goal difference puts slightly more pressure on us.

tjknowsall
Post #213
Saturday June 4, 2016 2:59pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 436
ok... im surprised by a lot of the responses on here. I don't know if I was watching a different game or what, but my only couple major complaints were. 1) We didn't pressure high enough up the field this let the Columbians posses the ball with their CENTRE BACKS AT MIDFIELD the whole game, until about the 75th min mark. When we had the ball we possesed starting with our Centre backs maybe 20 yards off of the midfield line. This is one of the main reasons it looks like Columbia was a lot more dangerous than us, because they started all their attacks higher up the field. My second complaint is that we were to slow at making decesions on the ball. If you rewatch the game u will see players like bedoya and zardes making excellent runs all games, and Bradley, Jones, etc not picking them out, and then being pressured by the quickness of the columbians into bad passes.
BUT however soccer is a game of inches and Columbia got their breaks and we didnt get ours. The pk was a pk, but a brutal one to give up espically since we were out playing them. The volley was well taken by a centre back. Their goalie made some big saves.

I dont know why people are pissed at Dempsey. I thought he played well drew fouls held up play and created chances. He was inches away twice from scoring. I think it was good shift offensively, yes u wanna see a higher work rate from him, but thats just not him we know that.
Bradley played well until he made that mistake that led to the pk then it was sad to see him go down hill
Zardes who I have never really been impressed with had our best performance last night
Wood was solid
Bedoya was solid
Jones was meh, I would like to see Nagbe against costa rica, but Jones coming as a sub will light a fire under our team if we need it cuz he will be pissed being on the bench
Yedlin/Jonhnson I cant complain much about, yes yedlin was a little poor, but they had to be very cautious last night with the pace and skill of columbia, paraguay and costa rica wont have that
brooks/cameron were very solid defensively. Cameron has to communicate wiht bradley on that goal he cant go around both players he either has to switch players with bradley or cut between bradley and the columbian players,not run around the back of bradley, but overall good perfomance.
Guzan: disapointing. yes the 2 goals were not going to be saved, but the one chance he had to make a big save he look like a deer in head lights. Bacca coming one on one and takes a heavy touch and guzan hesitates and then stuck in no mans land.

My call is start nagbe against costa rica. No other changes pulisic could start but neither wingers should be benched unless tired legs, and i dont think dempsey will be benched

Overall it was a good perfomance though IMO

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #214
Saturday June 4, 2016 3:22pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,452
No way Colombia did not dominate. In fact the stats say the US and Colombia were pretty much even Steven.

Player ratings:

Guzan: 6.0
Yedlin: 5.5
Cameron: 6.0
Brooks: 6.3
Fabian: 5.8
Bedoya: 6.0
Bradley: 5.5
Jones: 5.6
Wood: 6.0
Dempsey: 6.5
Zardes: 6.5

Subs:
Nagbe: 6.0
Pulisic: 6.0
Zusi: 5.8

Jzaval01
Post #215
Saturday June 4, 2016 4:28pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 3,315
You cant dominate a game if you have less possesion of the ball. Its clear colombia strategy was to sit back because they knew we werent going to be of a threat on the attack. If you see the game we pretty much neutralized bacca, james and cuadrado but that came at a cost and that was giving up attacking threat. Which played right into their hands. Dominated is the wrong word i would use say they outsmarted us and outcoached us. At the end of the day it came down to two errors that what gave them the win...

cleancutimage
Post #216
Saturday June 4, 2016 4:48pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 1,309
Well, here you go. Jermaine Jones tells us that the USA from the beginning whistle sacrificed offense to neutralize Cuadrado. Instead of playing their game and possibly getting caught on the counter, we played too timid and too defensive minded instead of taking the attack to a team that would allow us opportunities with possession.

That said, the final pass wasn't there the entire night.

http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2016/06/04/jerm...

Mojofc
Post #217
Saturday June 4, 2016 4:57pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 966
Can't believe a better team beat us... Crazy.

Colombia allowed us possession because most of it was harmless. When Colombia wanted to hold the ball in the back, their technical dominance showed, they held until the right moment and broke forward as we pressed. We held the ball, they pressured a bit until we had continued unforced mistakes because of our constant lack of technical ability.

I'd have preferred JK be let go towards the end of last year but a new coach doesn't immediately alter the simple ability to hold possession in dangerous areas.
Rain, rain, go away Come again another day - USMNT, MUFC
Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #218
Saturday June 4, 2016 5:26pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 879
I thought the game plan was a good one. Limit their playmakers and depend on one of our strengths which is set pieces. Not only are set pieces a strength of ours it's a weakness of Columbia. They did not score a goal from the run of play. Unfortunately we did not play well on set pieces last night and had an unfortunate handball which was really just bad luck. I agree with Klinsman that this was a pretty even game. I think we can play better but I didn't think we were awful either. We had as many opportunities as Columbia to score, I am not sure what people were expecting?

admsghs27
Post #219
Saturday June 4, 2016 7:17pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 6,060
JK said he expected a good result I think everyone did at least a tie or win. At home with huge expectations in the 2nd biggest tournament behind the WC yet the 1994 Colombia team was by far better and more talented than this team and yet our 94 team got a good result and yes in California also. So pretty much now the last 2 games are a must win not sure 4pts gets us trough.

Jzaval01
Post #220
Saturday June 4, 2016 7:36pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 3,315
idk about you guys but here still thinking of the game and im already demotivated with this result and the cup itself. Cant even be mad with this team because ive come accustom to them falling in the big games. No im not just talking about this game alone just the whole 2 yrs... just been horrible overall with Jurgen.

Jzaval01
Post #221
Saturday June 4, 2016 7:46pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 3,315
yes its negative but hopefully we can do something in this cup

cleancutimage
Post #222
Saturday June 4, 2016 8:06pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 1,309
It always sucks to player the group favorite first. We could have just have easily played Germany first in 2014 and felt the same way afterwards. It's unfortunate but our next two games are very winnable.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #223
Saturday June 4, 2016 8:08pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,452
Original post from Mojofc

Can't believe a better team beat us... Crazy.

Colombia allowed us possession because most of it was harmless. When Colombia wanted to hold the ball in the back, their technical dominance showed, they held until the right moment and broke forward as we pressed. We held the ball, they pressured a bit until we had continued unforced mistakes because of our constant lack of technical ability.

I'd have preferred JK be let go towards the end of last year but a new coach doesn't immediately alter the simple ability to hold possession in dangerous areas.


Righhhtttttt???? Now Colombia allowed the US to have possession???? I saw pretty even game technical wise last night.

Jzaval01
Post #224
Saturday June 4, 2016 8:21pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 3,315
I agree Clean very tough but its just the amount of two years weve been enduring with Jurgen takes a toll.
Anyways What are we hoping for tonight? a tie or a Costa rica win? If Costa rica win... Paraguay goes to the 2nd match facing Colombian. They could possibly be out come 3rd game against us

Mojofc
Post #225
Saturday June 4, 2016 9:11pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 966
Original post from 2tone

Righhhtttttt???? Now Colombia allowed the US to have possession???? I saw pretty even game technical wise last night.


Brian Sciaretta also feels the way I do it seems, just read this a few minutes ago:

""After the visitors scored the opening goal, the U.S. enjoyed some possession-but Colombia was always in control of this game. Colombia sat back and allowed the U.S. team to knock the ball around far from the goal (often in its own half) and then easily absorbed any type of pressure the U.S. mustered.

Jose Pekerman's team relied on the Americans' inability to attack and instead played to counter. Then, in the second half, Colombia held the ball and forced the U.S. to chase the game. The bottom line is that Colombia did whatever it wanted and the U.S. had no real answer or plan to get on the scoreboard.""

Not that I put much faith in our media, what he wrote echoes my general thoughts on this game. Doesn't mean I feel they did horribly. Thought overall we played a decent game considering our opposition. Could we have won a game like this? Sure... Underdogs always have a chance in this sport and what makes tournaments different than league play. Wish Dempsey had played the ball to Pulisic in the 2nd half instead of taking the shot on his own. Wish Cameron hadn't headed the ball dead center of goal from the corner. Let's not act as if Cololbia would have played much differently had they not gone up a goal early and gone up 2 at half.

Looking forward to our next game.
Rain, rain, go away Come again another day - USMNT, MUFC
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