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yodaddy101
Post #1
Tuesday April 26, 2016 7:49pm

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http://www.espnfc.com/major-league-soccer/sto...

Looks like the Cavs and Pistons are trying to start a MLS franchise in Michigan. Seems interesting, the soccer scene up there definitley seems to be a big one. What are yalls thoughts on this?
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skangles
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Post #2
Tuesday April 26, 2016 10:55pm

Joined Jan 2013
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I like the push coming from Detroit but I'm slightly worried about the support the team would have after the Gold Cup games failed to draw a crowd.

Actually, I just looked it up and it was 2011 when Detroit hosted and they drew 28k at Ford Field which looked horrible on TV. I vividly recall that game and I cannot believe it was 5 years ago, I thought it was in 2013. I have become an old man.

I think we have some posters on here from Michigan, how much support would there be in Detroit at this point?

federov
Post #3
Tuesday April 26, 2016 11:26pm

Joined Dec 2014
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Original post from skangles

I like the push coming from Detroit but I'm slightly worried about the support the team would have after the Gold Cup games failed to draw a crowd.

Actually, I just looked it up and it was 2011 when Detroit hosted and they drew 28k at Ford Field which looked horrible on TV. I vividly recall that game and I cannot believe it was 5 years ago, I thought it was in 2013. I have become an old man.

I think we have some posters on here from Michigan, how much support would there be in Detroit at this point?


I'm from the west side of MI, so I'm not extremely familiar with how much support Detroit has-I do know that Grand Rapids FC does extremely well (I think it's in the NPSL this season) and GR is a growing city with a solid fanbase and AO chapter.

I think there's the support in Michigan, it'd just be a matter of whether they could draw the crowds around Detroit. I personally don't want a team here until Pro/Rel happens (which likely could be never but that's a whole different discussion entirely).

Dave
Post #4
Wednesday April 27, 2016 1:27am

Joined Jul 2014
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Detroit is a very bad location to put a team. The city is a sh!thole.
If you want to put a team in Michigan there are a number of cities/places that would options. Grand Rapids, Battle Creak, Lansing, Ann Arbor, etc... Just not Detroit.

hamsamwich
Post #5
Wednesday April 27, 2016 5:27am

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Michigan in general is a bit run down but it's a great place to me. Loved in GR, @dave- you sure GR and Lansing are that much better?? Not sure Detroit should be given a shout over Sac, STL, San Antonio (to me the three "givens") or (the cities it would compete with in my head but probably not the real ones) Milwaukee, Charleston SC, Las Vegas, Phoenix, or a host of other places I can't think of right now.

Having said that, it would an another close-ish team for the Fire and Crew to play.

Dave
Post #6
Wednesday April 27, 2016 6:41am

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@hamsamwich - Have to agree with you that Michigan in general is run down. However, having spent a good portion of my life living in Michigan and playing all across the state I would say that GR & Lansing are actually much better suited than Detroit. Soccer has a lot of support in those communities, and wouldn't have to compete with any of the big 4 sports for fan attendance.
I also agree that there are a number of places I'd much rather see an MLS Team located than in the state of Michigan. Arizona (Phoenix or Tucson), Charleston SC, Reighley NC, Saint Louis, San Diego, Albuquerque, etc.... There is no shortage of cities that could be a good home for a team, the problem is finding an ownership group who will invest actually invest and spend the necessary cash.

MSantoine
Post #7
Wednesday April 27, 2016 12:32pm

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It looks like MLS is smartly trying to tap into its one remaining part of the country it was missing (hit Southeast with Atlanta, Orlando, & Miami already).

With Columbus & Chicago they needed some more teams in that area. Now we will be getting Minnesota and then it looks likely St Louis and now Detroit. Now you could argue Indy should be given the spot over Detroit and I wouldnt argue one way or the other. Just think its the area we need more closeby rivalries.

California is all set with 2 LAs, San Jose, and likely Sacremento coming (dont need San Diego). Texas is pretty well set up with Dallas & Houston (Id be in favor of one more spot to either Austin or San Antonio). Its good to see MLS doing what College Football major conferences doing and targeting geographic demos it can impact the most. Its smart business.

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #8
Wednesday April 27, 2016 5:31pm

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I remember bringing up Detroit way back when Orlando and NYC were confirmed and all the rest of the expansion speculation fervor was kicking up into a frenzy... Detroit is definitely on the rebound and now would be a great time to get a stadium and all the infrastructure built on the cheap. That said, I'm not so bullish on Detroit as I used to be, and the hype around Indy isn't going away...either way, I predict within 10-20 years soccer will be big enough in the US and we'll have enough "regional powers" that we'll have to incorporate some kind of pro/rel. Hopefully by then, MLS will loosen the grip of the single-entity troll from preventing (IMO) the collective US soccer fanbase from crossing the proverbial bridge.

dolcem
Post #9
Wednesday April 27, 2016 11:30pm

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We need fewer teams; the talent is already getting too diluted. Yes, we could have a financially viable league of 30 teams, but if we were to have one with only 15 teams, the level of play would be much higher, which would be better for the national team (and thus American soccer as a whole). It would mean more players going abroad (they'll be better able to make the jump) and the ones that do choose to stay would perform better for the national team (having more competitive games at the club level). Oh well, perhaps the gains made from growing the game through expansion are ultimately more important.
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skangles
DC
Post #10
Wednesday April 27, 2016 11:56pm

Joined Jan 2013
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Original post from hamsamwich

Michigan in general is a bit run down but it's a great place to me. Loved in GR, @dave- you sure GR and Lansing are that much better?? Not sure Detroit should be given a shout over Sac, STL, San Antonio (to me the three "givens") or (the cities it would compete with in my head but probably not the real ones) Milwaukee, Charleston SC, Las Vegas, Phoenix, or a host of other places I can't think of right now.

Having said that, it would an another close-ish team for the Fire and Crew to play.


Milwaukee was close to getting a team about a decade ago but I think that ship has sailed. A Milwaukee / Fire rivalry would be great and intense. As a Fire fan is there any other new city that you'd rather have a rivalry with than Milwaukee?

Soccer has always been well supported in Milwaukee. When I was a kid my elementary school arranged a career day and they brought in a couple of Milwaukee Rampage players to talk about being pro soccer players. One of the players the Rampage sent was a youngster named Brian McBride.

I'm glad his career evolved to where he no longer had to pitch to snotty nosed kids in order to earn a few bucks.

hamsamwich
Post #11
Thursday April 28, 2016 4:10am

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It would be close between milwaukee and STL. As a rivalry, I think Detroit would have a lot of potential.

I'm excited for a little more Midwest soccer as most of the fans travel well. Minneapolis will be the best time in summer from a trip perspective. Minnesota in summer is great.

skangles
DC
Post #12
Thursday April 28, 2016 4:31am

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We could call it the Hiawatha Derby.

yodaddy101
Post #13
Thursday April 28, 2016 2:07pm

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http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2016/04/27/snea...

here is the proposed stadium also
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blaise213
Post #14
Thursday April 28, 2016 11:06pm

Joined Sep 2012
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$1 billion for the new Detroit stadium

Approve this now!


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