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dunlopp9987
Post #721
Monday June 27, 2016 2:52pm

Joined Mar 2013
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I think all of these guys who are saying they're going to retire will be back. Maybe one will actually do it. And it won't be Messi. This is just reactionary. Give them a few days, weeks, months and their competitive nature will kick in. You think they're gonna want to sit idly by on international breaks while their team is playing without them?
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Rey Regicide
Post #722
Monday June 27, 2016 5:52pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 1,973
I don't know if there's anyone you want our kids to learn how to play like it's definitely Messi.

Ronaldo, both actually, are complete beasts I feel you have to be blessed with physique to do what they did. In Cristiano, I can't believe i'm saying this.. but his work on this technique should be admired and copied. He literally spent years and years working, and working out. But there is a difference..

Ronaldo is alot of soloing virtuosity that requires patience and accommodation for.. and there's absolutely nothing wrong with this...

Messi is incredible economy of motion, balance etc... i don't think I've ever seen a step over, elastico.. nothing, not one skill move, his skill is his touch and ability to turn 0 to 60 in a millisecond. Ronaldo is pure speed, Messi has acceleration and probably jerk.

then when you think you have him figured out, he plays central midfielder and arranges and conducts possession for your team. Both are incredible, Messi has my admiration.

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Texas
Post #723
Monday June 27, 2016 6:09pm

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 1,119
Again Rey. I wish i could see you play bro. Yeah, both are some of the special players we will ever see. With Zidane, El Gordo Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, and those two, are probably the best i have ever seen. I'm more of a fan of Iniesta, but Messi is God and CR is not far behind. But Messi is natural. God gifted. CR had his share, but his hard work makes me admire him, or favor him over messi. Not saying messi doesnt work hard, cause he does, but you can see how CR perfected his game after the years. It's a blessing we get to live during this generation. Barring any injuries, messi can probably get two more ballon d ors. :'(

Rey Regicide
Post #724
Monday June 27, 2016 6:15pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 1,973
Not that good. I try to slow the game down though.

I was struggling to learn and then Spain came along. And it's like those guys don't do anything but read, survey, control and repeat. You would think this would be found out but those guys rode this to a world title, two euro's and alongside messi (granted Messi is something else because like I said, acceleration.. it's unparalled.. I just don't know if another human can match his.. probably HGH related) they won almost everything there was to win at club level.. no wait they won everything right?

skangles
DC
Post #725
Tuesday June 28, 2016 12:46am

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 5,300
Original post from dunlopp9987

I think all of these guys who are saying they're going to retire will be back. Maybe one will actually do it. And it won't be Messi. This is just reactionary. Give them a few days, weeks, months and their competitive nature will kick in. You think they're gonna want to sit idly by on international breaks while their team is playing without them?


I agree. Messi is probably the most talented player of all time but his lack of trophies with Argentina will always be brought up when it comes to discussing the GOAT. He'll be 31 in Russia and an Argentina side that doesn't implode would be one of the favorites. This is his chance to carve out in place in the history books. Sure winning the Copa America Centenario would have been nice just like winning the Copa America in 2015 and 2007 but would you rather have one World Cup win or three Copa America wins? Is there really even a comparison?

dolcem
Post #726
Wednesday June 29, 2016 10:32am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,759
Original post from TheTruth

Well CR7 probably would quit. He's a bigger bitch. The dwarf will be back. And I do still think he should be banned from sports for taking HGH. If I took HGH I'd probably be in the NFL.


You do realize that he would have been a midget if he didn't take HGH, right? That it was prescribed to him by doctors?
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Rey Regicide
Post #727
Wednesday June 29, 2016 12:41pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 1,973
I have to apologize... Messi took SOMETHING, not sure what it was specifically. I want to believe in the sanctity of his accomplishments.

Does anyone see a resemblance somewhat to Roy Keane's Keano moment from 2002?

tylercocinas
Post #728
Wednesday June 29, 2016 3:26pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 1,113
Original post from dolcem

You do realize that he would have been a midget if he didn't take HGH, right? That it was prescribed to him by doctors?


100% true. It wasn't a performance enhancing drug situation, this was medically necessary whether he played professional football or not.

TheTruth
Post #729
Thursday June 30, 2016 1:56am

Joined Dec 2013
Total Posts: 950
My ass. Yeah, medically necessary or he wouldn't have played pro soccer.

skangles
DC
Post #730
Tuesday January 17, 2017 5:53pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 5,300
Discussions are progressing to make the joint Concacaf/Connebol Copa America a recurring tournament perhaps as soon as 2020.

If this happens the Gold Cup would happen once every four years. Fantastic!

admsghs27
Post #731
Tuesday January 17, 2017 8:43pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 6,060
i don't like how the gold cup will have 16 teams by 2019 i think it will dilute the quality on the field with more mediocre teams, unless their invites from Asia and South America it won't be better. I doubt South America will get rid of their tournament if anything USA should always be an invite along with Mexico of course. Or the top 2 finishers of the goldcup before copa America year should go.

skangles
DC
Post #732
Tuesday January 17, 2017 11:00pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 5,300
I'm inferring here but I suspect the cycle would look like this:

Year 1: Gold Cup / Connebol Copa America
Year 2: Joint Copa America
Year 3: Confederations Cup
Year 4: World Cup

That sounds great to me and if Concacaf wants to expand the Gold Cup to give more teams the chance to play in an international tournament then I am ok with that provided that it is counterbalanced by the increased level of competition that we would face in the joint Copa America.

skangles
DC
Post #733
Sunday May 7, 2017 5:27am

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 5,300
With the Euro shifting to a format of host cities across the continent in 2020 and given the joint US/Mexico/Canada 2026 WC Bid, I think a joint Copa America every four years that alternates the host cities between North American cities and South American cities every eight years would be a great format.

A country like Costa Rica wouldn't be able to host a full Copa America but there's no reason why San Jose couldn't host a few games in conjunction with stadiums in Mexico and the US as part of a North American hosted Copa.

I really can't think of any losers in this format. The US and Mexico would get the lion's share of the North American games as they should but cities like Toronto, Panama City, San Jose, Kingston, etc. could still have a chance to host a high profile international event if they're selected as host cities. Plus the US and other CONCACAF teams would have the chance to play in South America every other tournament. I hope this is under consideration as the joint Copa America discussions progress.

Dave
Post #734
Sunday May 7, 2017 6:13pm

Joined Jul 2014
Total Posts: 798
skangles - What you've forgotten is the money aspect of the equation. If CONMEBOL & CONCACAF do shift to a joint tournament don't count of it ever being rotated among multiple nations. CONCACAF doesn't even try to rotate hosting the Gold Cup because of the revenue associated with playing in the US. CONMEBOL even moved the 100 yr addition of the COPA to the US in order to cash in.
They may rotate between SA and NA, but don't count on the NA additions to be anywhere other than the USA....unless they do shared tournaments (US/Canada & US/Mexico), and even then the bulk of the games are going to be in the US.

skangles
DC
Post #735
Monday May 8, 2017 3:03am

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 5,300
I agree Dave but I think this switch away from true host countries into a Hodgepodge of cities across regions might open some doors. There were 10 host cities in the 2016 Copa America. For a future Copa America hosted in North America you could have 7 US host cities and 3 non-US host cities and still make a financial haul while expanding opportunities to other regions. I think it'd be good for the game.

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