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dunlopp9987
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Tuesday March 22, 2016 11:37pm

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http://www.espnfc.com/major-league-soccer/19/...

Very interesting stuff here. Discuss.
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snipes87
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Wednesday March 23, 2016 12:07am

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The people who think a MLS team would finish top half of the table were on drugs when they did the survey. Confirmed.

Interesting to see Nagbe be the 2nd most underrated player in the MLS. Even when he's the focus of the Portland team whenever they're talked about. Disagree on the overrated player picks. Mostly all DPs. Obviously a little ill will towards them. Sure some have under performed compared to their salary.
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dunlopp9987
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Wednesday March 23, 2016 1:46am

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Original post from snipes87

The people who think a MLS team would finish top half of the table were on drugs when they did the survey. Confirmed.

Interesting to see Nagbe be the 2nd most underrated player in the MLS. Even when he's the focus of the Portland team whenever they're talked about. Disagree on the overrated player picks. Mostly all DPs. Obviously a little ill will towards them. Sure some have under performed compared to their salary.


If you asked adms, he would say the best MLS team would finish in the top 4 in the EPL. Glad to see every single MLS player disagrees, haha.
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skangles
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Wednesday March 23, 2016 2:09am

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I think that the MLS All Stars (with a proper back four) would do well in the Premier League. Any individual MLS club? Not so much.

dunlopp9987
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Wednesday March 23, 2016 2:12am

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Original post from skangles

I think that the MLS All Stars (with a proper back four) would do well in the Premier League. Any individual MLS club? Not so much.


Interesting point about the back four has me thinking...

We know of some of the big DP's that have returned to MLS or joined for the first time. Bradley, Pirlo, Giovinco, Altidore, Gerrard, etc. But as far as I'm aware, almost all of them have been mids or forwards. Have there been any big name defenders brought in? Specifically center halves?
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skangles
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Post #6
Wednesday March 23, 2016 2:21am

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Liam Ridgewell is a DP for Portland but the fact that he's a DP is laughable. Laurent Ciman is defender of the year for Montreal he's been a fringe player with the Belgian national team. Surprisingly he's not on a DP contract.

Beasley is the highest paid outside back in the league as a DP for Houston. They also brought in Raul Rodriguez last season and had high hopes for him. The Galaxy brought in Van Damme this season but it's still too early to have a verdict on him.

Then there are guys like Kendall Waston in Vancouver who is a hell of a defender but he wasn't really a big name signing at the time.

skangles
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Wednesday March 23, 2016 2:30am

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I forgot to include Roman Torres for Seattle. He looked like he was the best defender in Concacaf during the Gold Cup and the Sounders scooped him up following the tournament. Unfortunately he got injured almost immediately upon arrival and he hasn't played since.

snipes87
Cleveland, Ohio
Post #8
Wednesday March 23, 2016 2:41am

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Defense doesn't sell tickets. Minimal return on those DP contracts
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dunlopp9987
Post #9
Wednesday March 23, 2016 2:45am

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Original post from snipes87

Defense doesn't sell tickets. Minimal return on those DP contracts


Hence why we see defending like we did in the NYRB/Houston match. Comical defending.
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coverby
Post #10
Wednesday March 23, 2016 3:08am

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Original post from dunlopp9987

Hence why we see defending like we did in the NYRB/Houston match. Comical defending.


Houston used to have a good defense, and how dare you talk badly of Rain's bff NYRB

admsghs27
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Wednesday March 23, 2016 3:08am

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Original post from dunlopp9987

If you asked adms, he would say the best MLS team would finish in the top 4 in the EPL. Glad to see every single MLS player disagrees, haha.

Not really top 10 yeah but not top 4. Hey but if an MLS team was in EPL they would have a higher salary cap therefore they would get more players so they would compete like any other. Same goes for EPL if they were to play in the Bundesliga they would struggle big time. ..

MSantoine
Post #12
Wednesday March 23, 2016 11:43am

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Original post from admsghs27

Not really top 10 yeah but not top 4. Hey but if an MLS team was in EPL they would have a higher salary cap therefore they would get more players so they would compete like any other. Same goes for EPL if they were to play in the Bundesliga they would struggle big time. ..


I cant believe Im saying this but I agree with adms on this one. You cant just drop an MLS team in EPL. Thats like dropping a CFL team in NFL. In EPL the lowest team salary is 25million euros. The average is around 70m. In MLS Toronto had the highest salary of 22 million. The average MLS team is in the 5-7m range. Thats apples to oranges. An MLS team SHOULD be relegated everytime. The fact that they wouldnt shows how much stronger MLS really is. Take Seattle, NY, KC, Portland, Toronto and give them 4 10-15 million dollar kind of guys and they probably would push for Europa/last UCL spot.

Right now are they worse than Newcastle? Watford? Sunderland? Villa? Bournemouth? Norwich? Id take the top MLS teams over those 5 clubs.

USAGunner
West Palm Beach
Post #13
Wednesday March 23, 2016 1:12pm

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MS, while what you and adms say is true. If you give MLS franchises EPL money they could compete. Of course if they are run right that is true. But it's not comparing franchises. It's comparing the current teams. So yes MLS teams would not fare that well in the EPL, I think they would stay just above relegation (the top teams), but not really be quite mid-table. The reason they wouldn't compete more is what you say, their players aren't as good because they can't pay players (roster full) like the EPL can.

Also it is not a fact that MLS teams would not be relegated every time. Definitely an opinion (I share it with you). In this discussion there is no fact, only opinion, all hypothetical. It's also not a fact that the MLS best team would not finish top 4. It's a very strong and most certainly true opinion, but still just an opinion.
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Post #14
Wednesday March 23, 2016 9:41pm

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I like how the poll acknowledges that the league needs changes, as indicated by the lack of a "nothing - the league is great" option on the commish-for-a-day question...really surprised at the pro/rel question being so evenly divided though...

skangles
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Post #15
Thursday March 24, 2016 12:29am

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Original post from recycledhumans

really surprised at the pro/rel question being so evenly divided though...


In that so many players favored it or that so many players were against it? If I were a current MLS player I wouldn't want promotion/relegation. It's a threat to their livelihood if their team goes down.

I want it as a fan as it will enhance the overall product but I understand why players would be against it.

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