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2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #46
Sunday February 14, 2016 11:12pm

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Lol. You all make me laugh? How many of you are business lawyers/ negotiators?

Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #47
Sunday February 14, 2016 11:31pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 872
Original post from admsghs27

Woow stupid from the Sounders they easily could of gotten 10 mil. They are highly overpaying players should of taken advantage of it. Yes china are laughing at MLS right now. What a dumb move from Seattle and mls.


10 Mil for a striker on the wrong side of 30! You're kidding right?

blaise213
Post #48
Sunday February 14, 2016 11:45pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,994
Original post from admsghs27

Woow stupid from the Sounders they easily could of gotten 10 mil. They are highly overpaying players should of taken advantage of it. Yes china are laughing at MLS right now. What a dumb move from Seattle and mls.


Lol, I think the dumb move was getting rid of him before CCL

If I was Seattle, I would bring in Agudelo and go after Paulo Ganso for DP

cleancutimage
Post #49
Sunday February 14, 2016 11:55pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 1,309
It's not about his age or being injury prone. You have an up & coming league much like MLS, that is willing to pay big bucks for players who may not be worth the asking price.

China will continue to be an option for MLS players because MLS(and this is an example) does business poorly. I guarantee if Martins played in Europe, that European team would have got more than 3 million for him. Remember Martins loves Seattle, he was in no rush to leave, so why would Seattle feel the need to get anything for him instead of saying give us a deal we cannot refuse or peace.

Seattle seemed desperate to sell and Shanghai low-balled us and they bit. Remember despite the restrictions of MLS, Seattle is one of the better clubs financially, they should not have to be sellers.

China is paying unreal prices for players and MLS is going to be the one honest league and get what they think a player is truly worth? If I am an MLS club I am taking these Chinese club to the bank because remember they are rivals with us for players. They are trying to establish themselves much like us. So why make it so easy for them to poach our players and our best players at that?

Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #50
Monday February 15, 2016 12:54am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 872
Original post from cleancutimage

It's not about his age or being injury prone. You have an up & coming league much like MLS, that is willing to pay big bucks for players who may not be worth the asking price.

China will continue to be an option for MLS players because MLS(and this is an example) does business poorly. I guarantee if Martins played in Europe, that European team would have got more than 3 million for him. Remember Martins loves Seattle, he was in no rush to leave, so why would Seattle feel the need to get anything for him instead of saying give us a deal we cannot refuse or peace.

Seattle seemed desperate to sell and Shanghai low-balled us and they bit. Remember despite the restrictions of MLS, Seattle is one of the better clubs financially, they should not have to be sellers.

China is paying unreal prices for players and MLS is going to be the one honest league and get what they think a player is truly worth? If I am an MLS club I am taking these Chinese club to the bank because remember they are rivals with us for players. They are trying to establish themselves much like us. So why make it so easy for them to poach our players and our best players at that?


We bought him for 4 million, used him for 3 seasons and sold him for 3 million. Not a bad deal if you ask me.

joey11
Post #51
Monday February 15, 2016 1:19am

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 278
Original post from Kamphgruppe

We bought him for 4 million, used him for 3 seasons and sold him for 3 million. Not a bad deal if you ask me.

Agree. Who knows if they didn't try and get more? It was a stupid move on MLS part. I know everyone now is looking for Morris to step in. If he does we'll see if he is worth the hype.

cleancutimage
Post #52
Monday February 15, 2016 2:51am

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 1,309
Original post from Kamphgruppe

We bought him for 4 million, used him for 3 seasons and sold him for 3 million. Not a bad deal if you ask me.


I would argue despite being older Martins is more valuable now than he was when SSFC bought him. He was a journeyman playing for 4 teams in 5 years. He found his consistent scoring ability and stability in Seattle.

This argument since to come up a lot, a lot of people seem to think once someone gets close or into their 30s they lose their ability all of a sudden. When healthy Martins would be the best striker on many of Premier League clubs at the old age of 31.

Jzaval01
Post #53
Monday February 15, 2016 3:38am

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 3,315
Original post from 2tone

Dude I highly doubt Seattle would have got more for a 31 year old Martins.

Martins is also injury prone and at 31 it's only going to get worse in that regard.

I think it's good business. Frees up more minutes for Morris and now the Sounders can seek out a DP for either CM or on the wing which are both areas of need for the Sounders.

I was wondering why Martins hasn't really been apart of preseason.

Sounders have 3 young FWDs: Morris, Jones, and Mansaray. And all can play multiple attacking
Positions.

Dempsey, Morris, Valdes, Jones, Mansaray. That's a good group of FWDS.

I'll miss Martins, but I think he was looking to leave anyway in this off season.


considering how much they paid for Jackson Martinez a 29 yr old. 7-10m is pretty reasonable.

But w.e its sounders loss. Well see how they work without him in a few weeks in CCL

camparkinson
Post #54
Monday February 15, 2016 4:27am

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 334
Moving a player too soon is always better than too late, good business for Sounders and MLS despite the fact that he was a great player it's time to move on and keep the money coming through.

skangles
DC
Post #55
Monday February 15, 2016 4:56am

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 5,443
Three Chinese teams are interested in Juan Mata. He would be a huge signing for the league.

admsghs27
Post #56
Monday February 15, 2016 9:05am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 6,060
Original post from Kamphgruppe

We bought him for 4 million, used him for 3 seasons and sold him for 3 million. Not a bad deal if you ask me.


Really you should see how much their paying for some washed up players... Is amazing how much $$ their unloading... I would bet the house if Seattle asked for 10Mil even 13 they would of paid it in an instant...

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #57
Monday February 15, 2016 5:51pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,450
Original post from admsghs27

Really you should see how much their paying for some washed up players... Is amazing how much $$ their unloading... I would bet the house if Seattle asked for 10Mil even 13 they would of paid it in an instant...


Yet again are you a corporate lawyer/ negotiator?

cleancutimage
Post #58
Monday February 15, 2016 7:58pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 1,309
http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2016/02/14/repo...

Reports now may be premature. SSFC brass finally read up on the ridiculous prices that these Chinese teams are paying and probably raised his value or they realized they are on the cusp of winning some important continental hardware in the CONCACAF CL and how important a player of Martins quality will be against the Mexican teams.

admsghs27
Post #59
Monday February 15, 2016 10:31pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 6,060
Original post from skangles

Three Chinese teams are interested in Juan Mata. He would be a huge signing for the league.

Im guessing their offering around 30 million or so..

chris_thebassplayer
San Jose
Post #60
Tuesday February 16, 2016 12:37am

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 1,518
I'm shocked Seattle moved Martins. Imo he was the player that made their attack happen. Great chemistry with Deuce. The perfect quick savvy player doing the hard work, making the runs to get the most out of Deuce...kind of a headscratcher.

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