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Know Nothing
Post #61
Friday January 29, 2016 6:52pm

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Hmmm, some perspective here. This is a mature adult talking about someone just out of high school.

USAGunner
West Palm Beach
Post #62
Friday January 29, 2016 7:41pm

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Original post from Know Nothing

But he can't help not developing right now going into a new environment. The point you are making is he won't reach his full potential..there is no guarantee he would do that anyway.

John Terry is many things...good and bad, but he is a leader and he will do what is best for the team...including helping younger players. Miazga will learn a lot in the next 6 months and will probably get a few minutes here and there.

Even if he does not work out in SW6, he is still young enough to succeed elsewhere.


I'm not saying he won't reach his full potential. I'm saying that there is a lot less likely chance at Chelsea than there is other places of him reaching his full potential. There isn't a 100% or a 0% chance anywhere of him reaching his full potential.

If he is a World Class player (which it's possible he is) then he can reach his potential anywhere, and he'll be a starter at Chelsea (and anywhere).

If he is just a very good player, then he won't reach his potential everywhere and there are certain spots where he will reach is potential and get more playing time. Chelsea is not one of them.

If he is just a good player then he will be a squad player for some lower tier EPL clubs (starter in middle tier clubs most leagues or higher tier in some leagues). He can still reach his potential at some clubs (where he will get a lot of playing time or just clubs that are good at developing).

If he sucks, then it doesn't matter anyways. lol.

I'm not saying Chelsea is going to ruin him, or anything like that. It's just a VERY risky Boom or Bust move on his part. I'm happy he has the confidence to do it.

Sure he can still move in a few years at the age of 23-24 and still be a good player elsewhere, but 3-4 years of prime development years are now out the window and if he doesn't reach his full potential at Chelsea then he never will.

How many players do you know that move to a big club, never catch on and roam about on loan from place to place, and then end up as good as people thought they could be somewhere else? it doesn't happen.
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USAGunner
West Palm Beach
Post #63
Friday January 29, 2016 7:42pm

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Yeah he'll develop just as much at Chelsea as he will in the MLS. SO I'm not completely upset with the move, just think there were much better options in terms of him developing.
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Know Nothing
Post #64
Friday January 29, 2016 8:49pm

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I'll agree it may have been better for him to go elsewhere, but even in the short term this will be a good experience for him. He may still end up moving to a place like Leicester as Chelsea will surely be after Vardy in the summer and can use him in a deal.

dunlopp9987
Post #65
Friday January 29, 2016 9:08pm

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Here's how I see things playing out.

Matt stays with them this year. I don't see him starting, unless there's injuries. He'll maybe make the bench a few times. He'll be loaned out next year and possibly the year after, and then will eventually be sold to a mid-table EPL side. Which will be perfect for him. Get a few years in there and impress, and then move to a bigger club who actually will give him a shot.

Come to think of it, Spurs would be a great final landing spot. Maybe team with CCV in the back line. Although I doubt Chelsea would sell to a local rival.
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recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #66
Friday January 29, 2016 9:08pm

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Having seen Ake sit on the bench for years, I'm not entirely excited about his prospects...hopefully he gets a season long loan next year to a Championship promotion contender to get his confidence up...last thing he needs is to get loaned to premier league relegation fodder that ends up hemorrhaging goals to everyone under the sun...someone like Birmingham where he can learn from a seasoned vet like Spector. doesn't necessarily need to be an American, though a Ream-Miazga pairing at Fulham does have its appeal, but a place where he can get lots of minutes and a decent amount of starts and work under the tutelage of an experienced, physical defender.

Know Nothing
Post #67
Friday January 29, 2016 9:28pm

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Orozco has been added to the roster for the Iceland match (says the Iceland match only), so Miazga may be back to play against Canada.

USAGunner
West Palm Beach
Post #68
Friday January 29, 2016 9:49pm

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I think Maizga will possibly be on the bench this Sunday if everything is finalized against MK Dons in the FA Cup.

He'll make the bench with no playing time in the rest of the FA Cups (maybe start one if they get a draw against a Championship or League one team). He'll make the bench and maybe have 1-2 subs at the end of the season, once Chelsea is officially clear of relegation and can't get top 5 (Europe spot).

Then he'll be loaned out in 2016-17 to a smaller EPL club or a Championship club, if not a Belgium/Eredivise side. He'll play well there and be given a chance at starting for Chelsea again and play in some friendlies (and start one that is in the USA). He'll go out on loan again in 2017-18. Then he'll be sold in summer of 2018 for a profit after a solid World Cup.

He'll be sold to a EPL side that has a lower transfer budget and it will be close to their record transfer amount. He'll start at that club for 4 years. And Transfer after a very good 2022 World Cup. To a Higher budget EPL club that will "overpay" for a 28 year old. Like say a West Ham.
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Know Nothing
Post #69
Friday January 29, 2016 10:11pm

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I will go out on a limb and say he will make his debut against Stoke March 5th late in the game to counter-act the size of Crouch.

I doubt they will loan him to a EPL team next year (too many negative experiences with that lately) as I am sure they will want him to play, so it will either be the Championship (Villa maybe?) or Vitesse. If it is Vitesse it is conceivable he could get some Europa League experience.

chris_thebassplayer
San Jose
Post #70
Saturday January 30, 2016 12:49am

Joined May 2013
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I have faith that Miazga will rise to the occasion and stick with Chelsea...stay in the squad with occasional spot starts. I think his ceiling is higher than any of our up and coming CBs, including Brooks. His game is so well rounded, hyper competitive...rarely beats himself mentally. I'm sure it has happened, but I've never seen him get caught unaware or flat out blow a play due to a phase out...pretty impressive for a 20 year CB.

I remember an RB game early last season. Rain was talking up how well Stache played. I was like, yeah, wonderful... Did you freaking see Miazga, he just played as close to a perfect game as you can get...the dude just has it. Rare to see that level of awareness and decision making from a 20 year old CB...especially for an American... just ridiculous.

admsghs27
Post #71
Saturday January 30, 2016 2:20am

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I think he will start 5 or more games and be the starter by season's end. I mean if the coach want's him on the first team that means he will get playing time and i'm sure once he get's his opportunity he will shine. But having said that i still think he needs to go to another club when the season ends because you know Chelsea will bring in some high quality expensive defenders and players for next season and that will it for Miazga.

blaise213
Post #72
Saturday January 30, 2016 5:04am

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"Dumber than a donkey"

LOL

TheTruth
Post #73
Saturday January 30, 2016 3:40pm

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Thrilled for MM. Queue the parade of nitwits who assume that he made the decision with the same amount of thought as me deciding to scratch my balls with my left hand or my right hand. . .

Know Nothing
Post #74
Monday February 1, 2016 12:52am

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Interesting news that Terry will not be offered a contract for next season, so a spot opened up for Miazga to jump up and grab.

Rumors going around that Antonio Conte is the leading candidate for the Chelsea job.

stone88
Post #75
Monday February 1, 2016 1:21am

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 1,532
Original post from blaise213

"Dumber than a donkey"

LOL


Good thing its a simple game, not like you've got to be Einstein to play it.

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