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hamsamwich
Post #16
Friday January 22, 2016 2:57am

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Scandinavia is the first step to the European work permit. See Bedoya, Alejandro.

dunlopp9987
Post #17
Saturday January 23, 2016 10:27pm

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http://blog.foxsoccer.com/post/137888408667/i...

Didn't know where else to put this. As soon as I watched this, my first thought was about how I would love to be able to see a young American prospect doing this. Here's a kid who was in League One last year and is now playing lights out in the EPL and scores a truly world class goal like this. And he's still a teenager.

Say what you want about England's success as a national team, but they've got some real talent coming through the ranks. Alli, Stones, Barkley, etc.
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Mojofc
Post #18
Sunday January 24, 2016 1:45am

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Original post from dunlopp9987

http://blog.foxsoccer.com/post/137888408667/i...

Didn't know where else to put this. As soon as I watched this, my first thought was about how I would love to be able to see a young American prospect doing this. Here's a kid who was in League One last year and is now playing lights out in the EPL and scores a truly world class goal like this. And he's still a teenager.

Say what you want about England's success as a national team, but they've got some real talent coming through the ranks. Alli, Stones, Barkley, etc.


It's actually quite comical our fans continually mock England for their lack of ability to produce players. Just shows how far our fans have to go.

Also reiterates how nice it would be to have multiple levels of ProRel. Makes it harder for players to slip through the cracks and gives players better ability to be seen.
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EKneezy
Atlanta
Post #19
Sunday January 24, 2016 3:13am

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It's nice to see. I mock England for these exact reasons though.

The US doesn't want to be like England. A tremendous league that leads to absolutely zero internationally.

I'd love to see them succeed more but they are so overwhelmingly average on the world stage. No kid wants to step out of his comfort zone. No kid wants to leave England. The money is too great to leave for Germany or Spain. Alli is a bright young player. I hope he breaks the mold of English players. His trajectory is basically planned out for him.

I really want to start another thread on this. It's an interesting topic (at least to me).

munns5986
Post #20
Tuesday February 9, 2016 8:45pm

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http://www.si.com/planet-futbol/2016/02/08/us...

I will start by saying I haven't read this thread so I really hope this fits here. I can tell you being an accountant this article was very interesting to me. It put things in a return on investment type context which makes sense to me. I hope that the academies and clubs put serious thought into their results from Double Pass.

USAGunner
West Palm Beach
Post #21
Tuesday February 9, 2016 9:26pm

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Original post from munns5986

http://www.si.com/planet-futbol/2016/02/08/us...

I will start by saying I haven't read this thread so I really hope this fits here. I can tell you being an accountant this article was very interesting to me. It put things in a return on investment type context which makes sense to me. I hope that the academies and clubs put serious thought into their results from Double Pass.


Interesting. Strides are being made for sure!
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Live490
Texas
Post #22
Tuesday February 9, 2016 9:45pm

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So there is this guy in the Sunday league i used to play at that has tremendous talent and i think should be playing pro. He has actually represented the US U17 with Brek shea and that generation in a tournament in Mexico. He has more talent than Brek and many other MLS that are currently playing pro. I'm from Laredo, Tx. 2 hours south of San Antonio and border city to the Mexican town infested by the drug cartels. There is a town 15 minutes a way, actually considered a city, Rio Bravo. There is where he is from. His name is Frank Lara. Another guy named Felix Garcia, from the same little town actually signed with Dymamo years ago but never left. They are 22-24 or so years old, and their time might have passed, but there is a lot of kids that can ball in this city, from Mexican background but their is not any scouts here or they get caught up in gangs and drugs. I wish this would change. Im pretty sure there are these scenarios in other cities in the US, were some kids have the talent to make it to the next level, but the opportunity is not there. I even wanted to save up money to take one guy to try out. Im sure he would have made it but his drive was not there anymore. He is making pretty good money though, as an athletic trainer.

USAGunner
West Palm Beach
Post #23
Tuesday February 9, 2016 10:06pm

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Part 2 of above series:

http://www.si.com/planet-futbol/2016/02/09/ml...
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Mojofc
Post #24
Wednesday February 10, 2016 3:55am

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If only there was a way to allow for different divisions in American soccer to really promote competition and desire to get better as a club by forcin clubs to seek out new local talents. If only there was a system that didn't limit lower division clubs. If only there was a system that didn't put ceilings above clubs so that they have no chance of promotion...

Ah well, better to keep the few early investors in MLS happy than actually have a system that benefits ussoccer to its fullest.
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Rey Regicide
Post #25
Tuesday April 12, 2016 7:12pm

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Hype... is at greatest cost to

A. player

B. club

C. country

D. fan

munns5986
Post #26
Tuesday April 12, 2016 8:00pm

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That is a heck of a question. I will say club, player, country, fan in that order.

Club - The resources that are spent to acquire and try to maximize that hype and for it not to pan out would really hurt. Yes that is the name of the game and it is expected at time but the hype is hard to control with media these days.

Player - The hype gets to your head. You still have the responsibility to put the effort in though. If you get lazy because of the hype and think you are the big shot then it is obviously a quick downward spiral. Your decisions aren't just hurting you.

Country - The player pool should be large enough (for bigger countries of course) that there should be someone else who could step up. The problem is going to come from the 4th group though wanting you to play that player because they think he or she is the savior. Which in turn might cause the head coach his job if there is enough backlash (justifiable or not).

Fans - The fans are the one that cause the hype. We no longer live in a time where it is think it through for the long run. Instead it is I want results now. This causes people to always looks for the next great thing.

Rey Regicide
Post #27
Tuesday April 12, 2016 8:18pm

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"don't get your hopes up"

but if we think hopes are as valuable as actual work put on the field or experiences that will benefit the development then we have serious issues, but i think that it's only in the heads of supporters..

I don't think "jinxes" are a real thing.

I hate the conversatoins that I have with a friend, a great friend, my bro, who thinks that the Nike commercials are what hurt Adu.

I feel like you're letting our system off the hook by not taking a serious look at what is going wrong.

USAGunner
West Palm Beach
Post #28
Tuesday April 12, 2016 8:36pm

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I think hype definitely affects club the most. It can raise the price of a player, making it costly to buy them. More than it should. Even if they pan out, they likely paid more than they should have for a prospect, or would have for other prospects.
So in that way it will always affect a club.

It can sometimes affect a player, depending on how ground that player is mentally.
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Rey Regicide
Post #29
Tuesday April 12, 2016 11:57pm

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oh i was framing that as a select one of the below...

lol

sorry SAT format

I would have gone with fans...

dfw_fan
DfW
Post #30
Wednesday April 13, 2016 2:15am

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Original post from Rey Regicide

oh i was framing that as a select one of the below...

lol

sorry SAT format

I would have gone with fans...


Lol, I would say media starts it and fans (who are more tuned to American football, basketball, baseball frame of mind which churns out thousands of talented players)...

Media, who like to obsessively repeat the stories without Football analysis of the player qualities.
They always have to include Adu onwards in each of the article.

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