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MSantoine
Post #16
Tuesday August 2, 2016 3:51pm

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Original post from goods

I am sure you will be the first one to say Mexico is so much better at developement. You cannot develop without games, and a u19 team gives u20s more developement and the ability to find other kids not seen before. But keep telling us how much better Mexico is. A man who likes to hear himself talk.


The funny part is Mexico played 3 games (Morocco withdrew so they forfeited all matches) and Mexico did not win any of their 3 games, and only scored 1 goal. USA won 2 games, including beating the host Spain but yup Mexico is better than us.

BG6
Post #17
Wednesday August 3, 2016 1:51am

Joined May 2014
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Just curious do people here honestly view wins and losses and goals scored etc as measuring sticks of any youth teams success? I was always under the impression that the purpose of youth teams was player development. I've seen youth teams which haven't developed anybody be wildly successful from a wins and losses perspective and youth teams which are well known to develop players which win very little. I think people need to reassess and temper expectations, reality is for most of these teams people get riled up about one way or the other success won't be measured for years after we have long since forgotten their results based upon the number of players who have gone onto successful club careers or transitioned to senior NT players.

hamsamwich
Post #18
Wednesday August 3, 2016 4:45am

Joined Oct 2013
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I was just glad my boy Mihailovic got to start and play (and score v Mauritania) against Spain, both wins. Haven't seen the match report to see if he played vs Bahrain. The kid scored all kinds of goals including the ussda 17/18 championship game winner a year ago for Fire academy. He's always been a striker or forward but Friedel has dropped him into the midfield. A name to watch amongst all the talented rest of the team.

MSantoine
Post #19
Wednesday August 3, 2016 2:04pm

Joined Nov 2012
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Original post from BG6

Just curious do people here honestly view wins and losses and goals scored etc as measuring sticks of any youth teams success? I was always under the impression that the purpose of youth teams was player development. I've seen youth teams which haven't developed anybody be wildly successful from a wins and losses perspective and youth teams which are well known to develop players which win very little. I think people need to reassess and temper expectations, reality is for most of these teams people get riled up about one way or the other success won't be measured for years after we have long since forgotten their results based upon the number of players who have gone onto successful club careers or transitioned to senior NT players.


Wins and losses don't matter. I'd say goals are a decent stat. You want youth players who can score and have offensive talent. If your youth team can't score that doesn't bode well for their likelihood to help the senior team.

TheTruth
Post #20
Wednesday August 3, 2016 4:21pm

Joined Dec 2013
Total Posts: 950
Original post from BG6

Just curious do people here honestly view wins and losses and goals scored etc as measuring sticks of any youth teams success? I was always under the impression that the purpose of youth teams was player development. I've seen youth teams which haven't developed anybody be wildly successful from a wins and losses perspective and youth teams which are well known to develop players which win very little. I think people need to reassess and temper expectations, reality is for most of these teams people get riled up about one way or the other success won't be measured for years after we have long since forgotten their results based upon the number of players who have gone onto successful club careers or transitioned to senior NT players.


Well you've spent enough time in these forums to know the answer to your own question and also to know that there are several borderline-retarded people on here.

camparkinson
Post #21
Wednesday August 3, 2016 5:03pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 280
I love that we have a u19 team. More games, gives more players a chance to be seen and gives USA a wider pool of young players. Seems pretty straight forward.

I don't know if Friedel is a great coach and they have had some mixed results but regardless there's no way this team is a bad thing.

hamsamwich
Post #22
Tuesday August 30, 2016 11:30pm

Joined Oct 2013
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http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2016/08/30/20...

Next up for the u-19s is this tournament in Serbia. Players like Barbir, John Nelson, Haji Wright, Josh Perez and Pierre da Silva join my boy Djordje Mihailovic. It's been a good ride for the u19s, with wins but most of all more development time and chances for the players. John Nelson in particular has shown well as a LB, the problem position. He's looked good when I've seen him, let's hope the kid continues his progress.

hamsamwich
Post #23
Saturday September 3, 2016 3:24pm

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Lost 2-1 to Serbia, and lost 2-0 to France. There will be a final placement game on sept 5... Brad Friedel has gotten a good look at a lot of players so far. Combine that with the players from the full u20s, the team should be in a better position to compete for next years u20 WC. The team has been worth forming in my opinion.

EKneezy
Atlanta
Post #24
Sunday September 4, 2016 1:45am

Joined May 2013
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Original post from hamsamwich

Lost 2-1 to Serbia, and lost 2-0 to France. There will be a final placement game on sept 5... Brad Friedel has gotten a good look at a lot of players so far. Combine that with the players from the full u20s, the team should be in a better position to compete for next years u20 WC. The team has been worth forming in my opinion.


Agreed. I think Friedel was a great choice too. This was a great idea. More games and more competition before the U20s.

hamsamwich
Post #25
Thursday September 8, 2016 3:28pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 2,516
Finished the tournament with a 2-1 win over Hungary. Once again my boy Djordje Mohailovic on the scoresheet with the winner...

It's a big year for the high school seniors his age- like John Nelson and a few others. Do they go to Europe like Haji Wright or Josh Perez?? Do they sign with their MLS affiliated teams (if they have one)?? Or go to college?

MSantoine
Post #26
Friday September 9, 2016 11:26am

Joined Nov 2012
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@ham - totally agree. You see a lot of them are going pro. Embossie chose MLS and will be in the draft in january (currently "loaned" by MLS to USL for the fall/winter). McKinne went to Europe. Jouan went to Chile. Theres been a ton of action on those guys going pro.

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