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admsghs27
Post #16
Saturday December 26, 2015 8:58pm

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Original post from Kamphgruppe

admsghs27, You have an open invitation to visit any VA here in Michigan. I can't wait to show you around and introduce you to our veterans. I will enjoy what happens when you tell them their sons are fake Americans. I will sit back and watch the magic happen.

Landon donovan said that some players in the MNT have told him they don't identify themselves as Americans. So i guess their daddies should be disappointed in their sons.

Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #17
Saturday December 26, 2015 9:10pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 631
Original post from admsghs27

Landon donovan said that some players in the MNT have told him they don't identify themselves as Americans. So i guess their daddies should be disappointed in their sons.


I gotta call bullshit on that dude. Provide a link. LD never said anything of the sort.

admsghs27
Post #18
Saturday December 26, 2015 9:20pm

Joined Nov 2012
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Original post from Kamphgruppe

I gotta call bullshit on that dude. Provide a link. LD never said anything of the sort.

He said it on twitter.

Landon Donovan ‏@landondonovan Dec 17
Landon Donovan Retweeted Jeremy Snyder
Believe it or not, I speak to my teammates. One told me "I don't identify as American but I want to play in a WC."

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‏@landondonovan Landon Donovan Retweeted The Blank Pennant
I was in the locker room, there are guys that don't IDENTIFY as being American despite having a US passport.

coverby
Post #19
Saturday December 26, 2015 9:54pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 481
The more I hear from landycakes the more I think he's one of the people behind the Strauss article.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #20
Sunday December 27, 2015 1:11am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 9,139
Yeah I saw that crap from Landon.

First off admghs has the order of the tweets reversed to push his agenda,

Landon first tweeted that he was in the locker room and that "some" guys don't identify as American.

Then some Twitter followers asked him how many?

And then with his second of two tweets about it he stated: " that ONE player stated to Landon that he didn't identify as American."

So one foreign born player said it. Landon did not divulge which foreign born player said it. Meaning it could have easily been a Mexican-American that said it to him.

Admghs is trying to push an agenda against the German born American players.

So one player said it.

Both Podolski and Klose have stated that they identify as Polish. But they both take pride in wearing the Germany jersey.

Just because a player doesn't identify as full American doesn't mean they don't take pride in wearing the USA shirt,

dolcem
Post #21
Sunday December 27, 2015 1:38am

Joined Nov 2012
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Original post from admsghs27

Yeah and who was the MVP and our best player in that span ohh yeaa a Guy named LD10 Legend which in case you forgot he left him off the most important tournament in history after he led us there... For a guy who plays in 4th division and promised to commit cause he did not favor USA from the beginning.. And where is he now ???


That guy in the 4th division SCORED A FREAKING GOAL FOR US IN THE WORLD CUP YOU IDIOT. And he STARTED for Bayern Munich the other day, the best team in the world. How many USNT players could?

This argument from the Klinsmann haters is so lame it's embarrassing. WTF does Donovan have to do with Klinsmann's coaching abilities? How does Donovan having played for Klinsmann while he was the most successful coach in USNT history take anything away from Klinsmann? JK got a very mediocre group of players to punch way above their weight. He didn't get Donovan and Dempsey in their primes but at the end of last cycle got this team playing better than it ever has. And when Donovan, arguably our best field player, showed up to the World Cup with a huge beer belly, playing like shit, and complaining that he was too old to train 100% anymore, and he (rightfully) was cut from the team, we STILL had an amazing World Cup (despite losing our only serviceable striker to injury as well).

It's not Klinsmann vs. Donovan. No real USNT fan views it that way. It's just the lame LA Galaxy fanboys that are mad about Donovan getting cut that try to make it into some sort of Klinsmann vs. Donovan debate. Klinsmann is the best manager we have ever had period. Landon was the most talented player we ever had (not the best, that would be Claudio Reyna). Those two statements have absolutely nothing to do with each other.
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admsghs27
Post #22
Sunday December 27, 2015 2:40am

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Original post from 2tone

Yeah I saw that crap from Landon.

First off admghs has the order of the tweets reversed to push his agenda,

Landon first tweeted that he was in the locker room and that "some" guys don't identify as American.

Then some Twitter followers asked him how many?

And then with his second of two tweets about it he stated: " that ONE player stated to Landon that he didn't identify as American."

So one foreign born player said it. Landon did not divulge which foreign born player said it. Meaning it could have easily been a Mexican-American that said it to him.

Admghs is trying to push an agenda against the German born American players.

So one player said it.

Both Podolski and Klose have stated that they identify as Polish. But they both take pride in wearing the Germany jersey.

Just because a player doesn't identify as full American doesn't mean they don't take pride in wearing the USA shirt,


He also specifically mentioned Fabian and Jones as some that don't identify as Americans. What's the deal we all know some of our players don't feel American but some here really wan't them to be American so bad only cause you play for the national team it doesn't mean their American the reason they play for USA is because they couldn't make it for their first choice team so it's all for interest.

http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2015/12/17/land...

admsghs27
Post #23
Sunday December 27, 2015 2:43am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 5,992
Original post from dolcem

That guy in the 4th division SCORED A FREAKING GOAL FOR US IN THE WORLD CUP YOU IDIOT. And he STARTED for Bayern Munich the other day, the best team in the world. How many USNT players could?

This argument from the Klinsmann haters is so lame it's embarrassing. WTF does Donovan have to do with Klinsmann's coaching abilities? How does Donovan having played for Klinsmann while he was the most successful coach in USNT history take anything away from Klinsmann? JK got a very mediocre group of players to punch way above their weight. He didn't get Donovan and Dempsey in their primes but at the end of last cycle got this team playing better than it ever has. And when Donovan, arguably our best field player, showed up to the World Cup with a huge beer belly, playing like shit, and complaining that he was too old to train 100% anymore, and he (rightfully) was cut from the team, we STILL had an amazing World Cup (despite losing our only serviceable striker to injury as well).

It's not Klinsmann vs. Donovan. No real USNT fan views it that way. It's just the lame LA Galaxy fanboys that are mad about Donovan getting cut that try to make it into some sort of Klinsmann vs. Donovan debate. Klinsmann is the best manager we have ever had period. Landon was the most talented player we ever had (not the best, that would be Claudio Reyna). Those two statements have absolutely nothing to do with each other.


Really whatabout guys like Johansson, Jozy, Davis, Cameron ect were much mpre out of shape than Landon and still got called i mean freaking Jozy got a hamstring injury and Joihansson was already injured going into the WC that means they weren't fit. Yeah and where is green at he can't even make the bench for Bayern the reason he played is caused they qualified already and so did other teen players. And he did not even do that well with bayern.

cleancutimage
Post #24
Sunday December 27, 2015 3:10am

Joined Oct 2013
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Original post from admsghs27

Really whatabout guys like Johansson, Jozy, Davis, Cameron ect were much mpre out of shape than Landon and still got called i mean freaking Jozy got a hamstring injury and Joihansson was already injured going into the WC that means they weren't fit. Yeah and where is green at he can't even make the bench for Bayern the reason he played is caused they qualified already and so did other teen players. And he did not even do that well with bayern.


I am really starting to realize you like arguing for the sake of arguing at this point. I think you just like the attention. You are the world's greatest troll. You will not even give credit where credit is due. It is one thing having your own opinion but you have to recognize when someone makes a valid point, you NEVER do, you will bring up the most irrelevant point to try and disregard someone.

Anyway, you bring up LD being fitter than most in camp, we all know LD is always one of the fittest guys in camp but not last year, taking that sabbatical really hurt his chances and his team. He was not able to develop chemistry with a lot of the new players coming into the camp. Green was an opportunist, yes but he took his opportunity and made the most of it. Getting out the group with the best player in the world, best team in the world and best team in Africa(Algeria was the best Africa team at the World Cup, yes) is really a feat in itself and should be applauded, no one outside the USA had us getting out that group.

I think the US is going with a known commodity in Hackworth. I think we are some years away from being a consistent power at the youth level. I think we should continue to have majority of our players peak(late bloomers) at the senior side level as oppose to peaking at the youth level and being a mediocre senior team like so many African sides.

It would be nice to have both but until soccer is taking more seriously by kids from the crib and up then we will not be a dominant side at the youth level. Yes, it begins with the coaching but at the U-17 level kids should be pretty close to being professionals and if we don't have coaches teaching techniques and tactics from levels like u-10, u-11 then we are at disadvantage to try and have them play catch up at academies like IMG.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #25
Sunday December 27, 2015 3:18am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 9,139
Original post from admsghs27

He also specifically mentioned Fabian and Jones as some that don't identify as Americans. What's the deal we all know some of our players don't feel American but some here really wan't them to be American so bad only cause you play for the national team it doesn't mean their American the reason they play for USA is because they couldn't make it for their first choice team so it's all for interest.

http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2015/12/17/land...


In no way does he say Jones and Fabian don't identify as Americans. Stop
Making things up to further your agenda.

Donovan has always had an issue with adapting to different situations, coaches, and players. That has been known for a long time. As Beasley said about Donovan: He is a good friend, but it's always been about Landon with him.

The dude is one of the US greats, but I never saw him put his hand over his heart when the national anthem played.

hamsamwich
Post #26
Sunday December 27, 2015 4:25am

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 2,471
@dolcem- even my dad who knows nothing about soccer said he thought the key move of Jürgens tenure was leaving out LD. In my dads words: "a team is about a team, not one player. It reminded me of when Gene Hackman, in the movie Hoosiers, sits the "star" for the good of the team and they start winning. Successful teams in sports are always about the team, not an individual guy."

But why does every thread turn into this garbage. Let it go, let it go.

John Hackworth is given another chance. Ok.

dunlopp9987
Post #27
Sunday December 27, 2015 4:42am

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 2,498
Original post from admsghs27

He also specifically mentioned Fabian and Jones as some that don't identify as Americans. What's the deal we all know some of our players don't feel American but some here really wan't them to be American so bad only cause you play for the national team it doesn't mean their American the reason they play for USA is because they couldn't make it for their first choice team so it's all for interest.

http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2015/12/17/land...


The same Jones that has an American flag tattooed on his body? That Jermaine Jones?

Son, you're an idiot. There's no two ways around this.
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2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #28
Sunday December 27, 2015 4:58am

Joined Jul 2012
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Original post from dunlopp9987

The same Jones that has an American flag tattooed on his body? That Jermaine Jones?

Son, you're an idiot. There's no two ways around this.


I already told him that, but his counter argument was that people get Japanese characters tattooed on their bodies, and those people don't identify as Japanese.

I informed him that having Japanese characters is writing not a Japanese nationalism symbol.

Anyone putting the American flag on their body, does not do it lightly. I am a service member and the American Flag means everything to me. Jones' dad was s service member, I am sure Jones understands what it means to have that tattooed on his body. Jones is as American as they come. As well as Boyd.

Where's Landon's tattoo of the American flag? Or Abby for that matter if they are true "Americans?"

admsghs27
Post #29
Sunday December 27, 2015 5:03am

Joined Nov 2012
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Original post from dunlopp9987

The same Jones that has an American flag tattooed on his body? That Jermaine Jones?

Son, you're an idiot. There's no two ways around this.


Well the fact stands that there are players in our team that don't considered themselves American. I know you want them so bad to be American but they don't feel that way so let it go. Like i said they play for USA for interest because they can If they were really good they would of said fuck USA and play for their Respective country. It is what It is!!!

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #30
Sunday December 27, 2015 5:24am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 9,139
Original post from admsghs27

Well the fact stands that there are players in our team that don't considered themselves American. I know you want them so bad to be American but they don't feel that way so let it go. Like i said they play for USA for interest because they can If they were really good they would of said fuck USA and play for their Respective country. It is what It is!!!


What players? Please give me names based on factual evidence?

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