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skangles
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Post #1
Friday November 20, 2015 5:31pm

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Club America are interested in Castillo and are rumored to be willing to pay $7.5m for him. I'd hate to see him go but that would be a nice payout for FCD.

Castillo is easily the most valuable player in the league when you factor in salaries (i.e. biggest bang for the buck). I hope Dallas keeps him but I can't blame Dallas if they make the deal.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #2
Friday November 20, 2015 6:32pm

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No. Liga MX is trying to take all of MLS's young Latino talent.

admsghs27
Post #3
Friday November 20, 2015 8:09pm

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Original post from 2tone

No. Liga MX is trying to take all of MLS's young Latino talent.


Money talks!!

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #4
Friday November 20, 2015 8:22pm

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Original post from admsghs27

Money talks!!


Man you're right again. Damn you on fire.

hamsamwich
Post #5
Friday November 20, 2015 8:57pm

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If it helps him get on the Colombia 2016 team so be it. He's a hell of a player-- the western Finals will be dictated by Castillo in my opinion.

skangles
DC
Post #6
Friday November 20, 2015 8:58pm

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I don't understand your argument 2tone. I think Club America is wise for trying to make a play for Castillo. The kid can play and I have no doubt that he would make them better.

America has a big budget and a lot riding on their success, why wouldn't they want to go after the best talent that they can get?

hamsamwich
Post #7
Friday November 20, 2015 9:05pm

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It's shows well for MLS a young kid come turn himself into a star at a young age. It's been 30 something's and has beens for the most part. If Giovinco broke the mold by coming here at the height of his powers, there must be a Castillo category of guys with skills who develop here. That's where the league will grow-- young talent coming here and developing. Good for Dallas and it will make room for players like Zendejas to come thru. FC Dallas, the premier academy team, showing how it's done.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #8
Friday November 20, 2015 9:06pm

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Original post from skangles

I don't understand your argument 2tone. I think Club America is wise for trying to make a play for Castillo. The kid can play and I have no doubt that he would make them better.

America has a big budget and a lot riding on their success, why wouldn't they want to go after the best talent that they can get?


Liga MX put out a few years ago that they are trying to get the best young Latino talent from MLS. They are basically trying to destabilize MLS.

I would rather MLS lose their young talent to Europe not Liga MX.

But of course if Cadtillo wants to go to America then obviously MLS and Dallas will probably accomadate that.

Would you want to see young talent flock to Liga MX from MLS teams? Do you want MLS to continue to be the inferior league? Because I don't.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #9
Friday November 20, 2015 9:14pm

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Original post from hamsamwich

If it helps him get on the Colombia 2016 team so be it. He's a hell of a player- the western Finals will be dictated by Castillo in my opinion.


Nah. From a Dallas perspective it will be dictated by Mauro Diaz. Which has been the case all season for Dallas.

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #10
Friday November 20, 2015 11:18pm

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I'm ok with letting him go, especially for that kinda dough...

Alex Zendejas is probably the most hyped academy product we've had in a long while and his preferred position is on the left wing cutting inside with pace and skill, so basically a like-for-like swap with Castillo (Fab is 50/50 on attacking the endline vs. cutting in)...plus the kid is ridiculous young and has a really high ceiling from everything I've seen...including his play on the US U17s.

He (Fabian) is just as mercurial as anyone in the league; when Fab is on, his presence is felt all over the pitch...when he's not, you don't say his name til half time and when you do it's only in saying "where was Castillo in the first half?". But that's also the beauty of a player like Castillo, he'll be invisible for 89 minutes but that one minute of visibility will cause enough problems for the opposing defense to change a game.

Having watched his progression from 19 year old lightning bolt with little to no skill to now, he still has work to do and potential to actualize, but I think he's done about as much as he can with FCD. If we win the cup this year, look for him to call time on his Dallas stint...if not, his loyalty may make him stay another year, but if it's another good year for him I don't see him lacing up his boots in Dallas come 2017.

cleancutimage
Post #11
Saturday November 21, 2015 12:22am

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Original post from 2tone

Liga MX put out a few years ago that they are trying to get the best young Latino talent from MLS. They are basically trying to destabilize MLS.

I would rather MLS lose their young talent to Europe not Liga MX.

But of course if Cadtillo wants to go to America then obviously MLS and Dallas will probably accomadate that.

Would you want to see young talent flock to Liga MX from MLS teams? Do you want MLS to continue to be the inferior league? Because I don't.


The simple fix to solving this problem is raise the salary cap, get rid of the MLS Super Draft, and make the league schedule more on par with the rest of the schedule. That March-October(November if you make the playoffs, December is you make the finals) kills us. I understand we have the travel and harsh winters to deal with but it is soccer not baseball.

To be honest I wouldn't mind seeing a clubs with few Americans and more overseas talent because until we are produce more quality players then we should give the best players the job. A lot of these college players are not cutting it and will be obsolete in a few years. It was nice when MLS was developing and needed to fill roster spots but now teams are more established and can handle a higher salary cap. If they choose not to use the salary cap max it is on them.

skangles
DC
Post #12
Saturday November 21, 2015 3:42am

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Original post from 2tone

Liga MX put out a few years ago that they are trying to get the best young Latino talent from MLS. They are basically trying to destabilize MLS.

I would rather MLS lose their young talent to Europe not Liga MX.

But of course if Cadtillo wants to go to America then obviously MLS and Dallas will probably accomadate that.

Would you want to see young talent flock to Liga MX from MLS teams? Do you want MLS to continue to be the inferior league? Because I don't.


I don't buy into this conspiracy theory. Teams are incentivized by results and the financials associated with those results. If America buys Castillo it will be because they think he can help them achieve. Sure it would be the cherry on top that FCD would be without one of their best players from this season in the CCL but America isn't going to drop that kind of cash to give them a slight advantage over one of their many competitors in the CCL.

And where are these latinos that Liga MX has taken from MLS that is destabilizing the league? Bornstein? Villareal? the Farfans? The only instance of MLS losing a key player to Liga MX that I can think of is Camilo and that has hardly destabilized the league. It hasn't even destabilized the Whitecaps organization (much to the credit of Carl Robinson and team).

I have no problem with players making moves that they feel is right for them whether that's in MLS, Liga MX or Europe. I also have no problem with Liga MX scouting MLS for talent. Afte rall, MLS has had great success from plundering talent from across the Americas.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #13
Saturday November 21, 2015 6:07am

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Original post from skangles

I don't buy into this conspiracy theory. Teams are incentivized by results and the financials associated with those results. If America buys Castillo it will be because they think he can help them achieve. Sure it would be the cherry on top that FCD would be without one of their best players from this season in the CCL but America isn't going to drop that kind of cash to give them a slight advantage over one of their many competitors in the CCL.

And where are these latinos that Liga MX has taken from MLS that is destabilizing the league? Bornstein? Villareal? the Farfans? The only instance of MLS losing a key player to Liga MX that I can think of is Camilo and that has hardly destabilized the league. It hasn't even destabilized the Whitecaps organization (much to the credit of Carl Robinson and team).

I have no problem with players making moves that they feel is right for them whether that's in MLS, Liga MX or Europe. I also have no problem with Liga MX scouting MLS for talent. Afte rall, MLS has had great success from plundering talent from across the Americas.


I am relaying to you what was stated a few years ago by Some Mexican based reporters.

In fact that was stated right before all of those players made the move to Liga MX.

Luis Gil Has admirers in Liga MX as well.

Tijuana targeted and signed Paul Arriola, John Requejo, Amando Moreno, and Alejandro Guido. All could have been valuable players for MLS teams.

Omar Salgado went to Tigres this past season.

Liga MX teams were also very interested in signing Junior Flores before he ultimately signed for Dortmund.

Rubio Rubin had suitors in Mexico before signing for Utrecht.

Yes a team wants to make their side better, but they also are looking to weaken their competition from MLS.

I have no problem with players making a move to better their careers. I do have a problem with a directive coming down from FMF to weaken MLS.

And really if you are trying to push your argument that you have no problems with players choosing situations to better their careers, then why use the phrase "plundering talent from the Americas?" MLS isn't trying to weaken any league in the Americas. They don't have a directive to specifically target certain players in order to weaken another league.

skangles
DC
Post #14
Saturday November 21, 2015 6:24am

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Yes I used the word plundering for effect. I don't have any issue with MLS teams scouting around the Americas for talent but by that notion I don't see how its any different if a Liga MX team comes after MLS talent.

If there was a league wide directive from Liga MX to weaken MLS then it has been pathetically executed. Besides Salgado you listed a bunch of players that weren't in MLS but theoretically could be, that's quite a stretch to link those players to a directive to weaken MLS.

Honestly, I am surprised Liga MX teams don't make more frequent moves for MLS players. Not because it would weaken the league and their CCL competition but simply because they could find decent talent on reasonable salaries that MLS teams would struggle to match due to the salary cap rules.

tylercocinas
Post #15
Saturday November 21, 2015 2:04pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 1,072
Original post from 2tone

I am relaying to you what was stated a few years ago by Some Mexican based reporters.


What reporters? Not saying you're making it up, it's just that I actively look for content from Mexican soccer media and I recall none of this. The notion of a directive to weaken MLS is somewhat laughable. Tijuana is one of the biggest believers in US talent. That's why they go after Americans. It can help them compete and find talent that there is less competition for, and because they are a Mexican club, they have an appeal to Americans with that background. The same could be said for many Hispanic US players I'm sure, when it comes to Liga MX clubs. If MLS wants them to stop poaching players whether they be Americans or just young talent MLS clubs have nurtured, here's an idea: DO BETTER.

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