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Post #16
Wednesday October 14, 2015 4:45am

Joined Apr 2013
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Original post from admsghs27

I would love Don Garber to be our next president of US SOCCER he will do much better things than Gulati because he actually knows about the sport.


oh wow!!! almost throw up my dinner...

chillguy1992
Post #17
Wednesday October 14, 2015 4:58am

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 1,098
See you mmee I really enjoyed a good amount of your postings on here and you were good at correcting any grammatical errors. I understand your frustation with US soccer I am frustrated with it 2. But I think you should stay loyal to this website. Simply because I feel that its always a good thing to have differing opinions on subjects and what should be done to solve them. Plus you posted all the time brought up good points and have been a loyal us soccer fan through and through. I think you should do whats best and if you think leaving the website for a while is more power to you. I hope that when you are gone from the website you still enjoy soccer especially soccer adios amigo until another time.

venicebeachbull
Post #18
Wednesday October 14, 2015 7:00am

Joined Jun 2012
Total Posts: 112
Lots do in LA with all your new free time.

Enjoy my man.

Rey Regicide
Post #19
Wednesday October 14, 2015 12:49pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 1,768
We're not like any other soccer country, other countries don't have the roadblocks we have, like a nascent league trying to be profitable and a federation trying to secure younger generation of talent come through the ranks efficiently

dolcem
Post #20
Wednesday October 14, 2015 5:50pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,712
Mme,

Too bad, I enjoyed your writing even when I didn't agree with you.

I'm going to be honest though, you need to take a chill pill.

I understand that posting on some low-traffic soccer forum has nothing to do with being a loyal fan, but judging by the tone of your posts, I think you could use a bit of perspective.

We're going through a run of poor form. But Jesus H. Christ, a year ago we made it out of the group of death. NO ONE thought we would. And then we were a Wondo away from beating Belgium and going to the quarterfinals. You can't handle playing a few bad games and losing to Mexico in the 118th minute? Is it really that bad?

Any team will have its highs and lows, successes and failures. We're in a serious transitional period right now, with one generation on its way out and the youngest mostly clearly not ready. But if this is absolutely unbearable for you, I'd say you haven't been watching long enough. Some of us had to wait decades to see us qualify for a World Cup. Many of us remember what it was like to not even have a professional league and the days when we simply hoped to not get embarrassed at the World Cup. If you can't handle not winning one Gold Cup and having a few bad games, you're completely spoiled as a fan.

So you don't like the coach. Grow the fuck up. He'll be gone in three years. I thought Coach Bob was completely clueless and it was all the more painful knowing that we had hired him instead of Klinsmann (a decent European manager with good ideas who actually wasn't a mercenary and really wanted to coach us), but I learned to get over it and not throw any tantrums. There's no sense in getting worked up about stuff you can't change, whether it's the national team manager or POTUS. And looking back on it, Coach Bob was better than I gave him credit for. In the end, we got Klinsmann, and there's nothing I would change about how it all went down. Who knows, maybe in 2018 we'll hire Jason Kreis or Pete Vermes or whoever you want as manager. You just have to wait. Just like in 2016, maybe your guy will get elected, whether it's Trump or Rubio or whoever.

Best wishes.
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Rey Regicide
Post #21
Wednesday October 14, 2015 6:28pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 1,768
Original post from dolcem

Mme,

Too bad, I enjoyed your writing even when I didn't agree with you.

I'm going to be honest though, you need to take a chill pill.

I understand that posting on some low-traffic soccer forum has nothing to do with being a loyal fan, but judging by the tone of your posts, I think you could use a bit of perspective.

We're going through a run of poor form. But Jesus H. Christ, a year ago we made it out of the group of death. NO ONE thought we would. And then we were a Wondo away from beating Belgium and going to the quarterfinals. You can't handle playing a few bad games and losing to Mexico in the 118th minute? Is it really that bad?

Any team will have its highs and lows, successes and failures. We're in a serious transitional period right now, with one generation on its way out and the youngest mostly clearly not ready. But if this is absolutely unbearable for you, I'd say you haven't been watching long enough. Some of us had to wait decades to see us qualify for a World Cup. Many of us remember what it was like to not even have a professional league and the days when we simply hoped to not get embarrassed at the World Cup. If you can't handle not winning one Gold Cup and having a few bad games, you're completely spoiled as a fan.

So you don't like the coach. Grow the fuck up. He'll be gone in three years. I thought Coach Bob was completely clueless and it was all the more painful knowing that we had hired him instead of Klinsmann (a decent European manager with good ideas who actually wasn't a mercenary and really wanted to coach us), but I learned to get over it and not throw any tantrums. There's no sense in getting worked up about stuff you can't change, whether it's the national team manager or POTUS. And looking back on it, Coach Bob was better than I gave him credit for.[/b] In the end, we got Klinsmann, and there's nothing I would change about how it all went down. Who knows, maybe in 2018 we'll hire Jason Kreis or Pete Vermes or whoever you want as manager. You just have to wait. Just like in 2016, maybe your guy will get elected, whether it's Trump or Rubio or whoever.

Best wishes.


IF YOU CAN CHANGE

AND I CAN CHANGE

..... ANYBODY CAN CHANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SiteBomb621
Post #22
Wednesday October 14, 2015 6:31pm

Joined Jan 2014
Total Posts: 176
[quote]Original post from dolcem

We're going through a run of poor form. But Jesus H. Christ, a year ago we made it out of the group of death. NO ONE thought we would. And then we were a Wondo away from beating Belgium and going to the quarterfinals. You can't handle playing a few bad games and losing to Mexico in the 118th minute? Is it really that bad?

Dolcem,
I respect your post but i have to ask a question. Were we in the group of death because all four teams in the group played like they could reach the final, or were we in the group of death because of nothing more than name recognition? I'll go with the latter... Portugal was one of the most disappointing teams at the World Cup, and Ghana was scary simply because of the history between them and the USMNT. I'm sorry to say, but Costa Rica had a much more impressive Group of Death than we did.

Klinsmann gets way to much credit for Friendlies where the other team especially in Europe are experimenting just as we are. Now is a nice step to win a friendly in Italy, the Netherlands etc..? Yes it is exciting especially when you see guys like bobby wood scoring it gives you hope. But the moment a team puts out an A squad we look more like USMNT vs Brazil. Losing to Mexico in the 118th min is bad, because it meant going to the Confed Cup.

Rey Regicide
Post #23
Wednesday October 14, 2015 6:45pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 1,768
I respect your viewpoints too, but

A dying Italian Team

A very difficult Uruguay team yes

An English team who was in transition themselves, with Sterling as their attacking hub?

With none of what made English a 10 to 15 fifa ranking team in the past

Strong CB play from Terry Rio etc? veteran consistency from Lampard Gerrard (tucked away as a neo CDM that he was never comfortable in)

That english team was plastic and anyone who followed the premier league knew it

USAGunner
West Palm Beach
Post #24
Wednesday October 14, 2015 7:01pm

Joined Jul 2013
Total Posts: 1,307
[quote]Original post from SiteBomb621

[quote]Original post from dolcem

We're going through a run of poor form. But Jesus H. Christ, a year ago we made it out of the group of death. NO ONE thought we would. And then we were a Wondo away from beating Belgium and going to the quarterfinals. You can't handle playing a few bad games and losing to Mexico in the 118th minute? Is it really that bad?

Dolcem,
I respect your post but i have to ask a question. Were we in the group of death because all four teams in the group played like they could reach the final, or were we in the group of death because of nothing more than name recognition? I'll go with the latter... Portugal was one of the most disappointing teams at the World Cup, and Ghana was scary simply because of the history between them and the USMNT. I'm sorry to say, but Costa Rica had a much more impressive Group of Death than we did.

Klinsmann gets way to much credit for Friendlies where the other team especially in Europe are experimenting just as we are. Now is a nice step to win a friendly in Italy, the Netherlands etc..? Yes it is exciting especially when you see guys like bobby wood scoring it gives you hope. But the moment a team puts out an A squad we look more like USMNT vs Brazil. Losing to Mexico in the 118th min is bad, because it meant going to the Confed Cup.[/quote]

So beating a lineup of:
Gotze (started 9 of 10 Euro Cup Qual games for Germany)
Ozil (key player for Arsenal)
Schurrle (key player for Wolfsburg)
Hermann (key player for Monchengladbach)
Gundogan (key player for Dortmund)
Schweinsteiger (key player for ManU)
HEctor (started more than half the Euro Cup Qual games for Germany)
Rudiger (player for ROma)
Mustafi (key player for Valencia)
Rudy (key player for Hoffenheim)
Zieler (GK for Hannover)

With Podolski, Khedira, Kramer, Bellerabi, and Kruse as the subs isn't impressive to you?
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dolcem
Post #25
Wednesday October 14, 2015 7:04pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,712
Original post from SiteBomb621

Dolcem,
I respect your post but i have to ask a question. Were we in the group of death because all four teams in the group played like they could reach the final, or were we in the group of death because of nothing more than name recognition? I'll go with the latter... Portugal was one of the most disappointing teams at the World Cup, and Ghana was scary simply because of the history between them and the USMNT. I'm sorry to say, but Costa Rica had a much more impressive Group of Death than we did.

Klinsmann gets way to much credit for Friendlies where the other team especially in Europe are experimenting just as we are. Now is a nice step to win a friendly in Italy, the Netherlands etc..? Yes it is exciting especially when you see guys like bobby wood scoring it gives you hope. But the moment a team puts out an A squad we look more like USMNT vs Brazil. Losing to Mexico in the 118th min is bad, because it meant going to the Confed Cup.


Portugal is on a different level than we are. How many Americans do you think could actually make their final 23? Howard is the only one...MAYBE Jones or Bradley, and neither would actually play. They were "disappointing" at the World Cup because they got spanked by arguably the best national team of all time and we outplayed them. They played Ghana better than any we or Germany did. Ghana is a more talented team than we are and they eliminated us two times in a row so I'd say this was a step up. I'm happy we were able hold Germany to a goal and almost tie them. Belgium is on a different planet than we are. We don't have a single guy that would have made their squad and if it wasn't for Wondo we would have beaten them.

Costa Rica's group was not the GoD. England and Italy are awful. Yes, they have history and name recognition, but neither is any good at the moment (and not even on paper, either). Neither is as good as Portugal and Germany would have beaten either of those teams by five goals. Ghana is about the same level as Uruguay (see last world cup).

But it doesn't matter which one we call the GoD. Last World Cup was a massive success by any indicator. People that weren't thrilled with it just simply haven't been watching us long enough to have realistic expectations. We're probably somewhere between the 20th and 40th best team in the world, which means getting out of the group stage is accomplishment. Certainly in a group like that.

Losing to Mexico is nothing to be ashamed of. They're a really good team. We can't fire the coach every time we lose to Mexico...going through new coaches every year is just not a good way to run a program.
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SiteBomb621
Post #26
Wednesday October 14, 2015 7:29pm

Joined Jan 2014
Total Posts: 176
Original post from dolcem

Portugal is on a different level than we are. How many Americans do you think could actually make their final 23? Howard is the only one...MAYBE Jones or Bradley, and neither would actually play. They were "disappointing" at the World Cup because they got spanked by arguably the best national team of all time and we outplayed them. They played Ghana better than any we or Germany did. Ghana is a more talented team than we are and they eliminated us two times in a row so I'd say this was a step up. I'm happy we were able hold Germany to a goal and almost tie them. Belgium is on a different planet than we are. We don't have a single guy that would have made their squad and if it wasn't for Wondo we would have beaten them.

Costa Rica's group was not the GoD. England and Italy are awful. Yes, they have history and name recognition, but neither is any good at the moment (and not even on paper, either). Neither is as good as Portugal and Germany would have beaten either of those teams by five goals. Ghana is about the same level as Uruguay (see last world cup).

But it doesn't matter which one we call the GoD. Last World Cup was a massive success by any indicator. People that weren't thrilled with it just simply haven't been watching us long enough to have realistic expectations. We're probably somewhere between the 20th and 40th best team in the world, which means getting out of the group stage is accomplishment. Certainly in a group like that.

Losing to Mexico is nothing to be ashamed of. They're a really good team. We can't fire the coach every time we lose to Mexico...going through new coaches every year is just not a good way to run a program.


We will agree to disagree. How many players on the 09 Confed Cup would have made Spain's 23? Your point you're trying to make is not valid. Italy and England were awful? The play and final scores say other wise.

If we are to model ourselves after Europe and South America, then yes we can fire a coach whenever that coach does not show the skills to take us to another level and or keep us at a respectable level. Winning a bunch of friendlies and then losing when it really really counts is not special, beating all those teams in friendlies only to then not make the Confed Cup via the Gold Cup OR the Playoff says nothing at all. I'd rather lose all those friendlies play hard and learn from those games. All of these fans get their USMNT ego's blown up and think all is right with the world over a friendly. We here in the US need to start calling these games Exhibitions so they don't go to their heads so much.

snipes87
Cleveland, Ohio
Post #27
Wednesday October 14, 2015 11:51pm

Joined Jul 2013
Total Posts: 843
Original post from dolcem

Portugal is on a different level than we are. How many Americans do you think could actually make their final 23? Howard is the only one...MAYBE Jones or Bradley, and neither would actually play. They were "disappointing" at the World Cup because they got spanked by arguably the best national team of all time and we outplayed them. They played Ghana better than any we or Germany did. Ghana is a more talented team than we are and they eliminated us two times in a row so I'd say this was a step up. I'm happy we were able hold Germany to a goal and almost tie them. Belgium is on a different planet than we are. We don't have a single guy that would have made their squad and if it wasn't for Wondo we would have beaten them.

Costa Rica's group was not the GoD. England and Italy are awful. Yes, they have history and name recognition, but neither is any good at the moment (and not even on paper, either). Neither is as good as Portugal and Germany would have beaten either of those teams by five goals. Ghana is about the same level as Uruguay (see last world cup).

But it doesn't matter which one we call the GoD. Last World Cup was a massive success by any indicator. People that weren't thrilled with it just simply haven't been watching us long enough to have realistic expectations. We're probably somewhere between the 20th and 40th best team in the world, which means getting out of the group stage is accomplishment. Certainly in a group like that.

Losing to Mexico is nothing to be ashamed of. They're a really good team. We can't fire the coach every time we lose to Mexico...going through new coaches every year is just not a good way to run a program.


You knocked it out of the park with this post. Bravo
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