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mmee
Culver City, CA
Post #1
Tuesday October 13, 2015 9:07pm

Joined Mar 2014
Total Posts: 1,674
1) How we lost that match is way more important than the scoreline, which could have ended 7-2 Mexico way more easily than 3-2 USA. If you don't understand that, you don't know a single thing about this sport.

2) Klinsmann is a total asshole, and it impairs his judgement. His incompetent qualities, including his ego and lack of responsibility and visionary-bullshit (the guy who ben the frying pan at training camp, etc) outweigh his good qualities. See his recent comments. If you don't understand this, you have zero common sense.

3) In another country, there would be about ten to fifty times the noise calling for Gulati's and Klinsmann's and Herzog's heads. It would be on every major media outlet.

4) At least in past years we would have had more heart and guts during that match. We're having massive, massive, massive morale problems. Our player quality is not Klinsmann's fault. Practically everything else is. Our team is spiritually adrift.

5) Raise your hand if you think he has been competent at tactics or player selection in the last year. Now cut off your hand because you're an idiot.

6) If you know anything about Gulati, you know that he got the job without soccer qualifications to speak of.

7) The only loyalty question I have ever had as a sports fan is: does the team stink from the administration down? If I answer that yes, I stop following the team until that changes. That may not be your logic, but consider whether you'd stand on the two extremes:
a) lovable losers with some chemistry, spirit and headed in the right direction with an admirable front office/coach, or
b) a bunch of individuals with a stupid or despicable front office / coach, making bad choices

8) For those of you who would question my loyalty as a fan since 1989-90, often watching alone, a few times watching the team play in person the rain in an empty stadium on a weeknight, many times begging a bartender to put the game on a back-corner television, trying to figure out where I can watch a satellite feed of a WCQ match in the past 25 years, rooting for Agoos or Bornstein to have a good game against all hope or reason, explaining the game to people, taking people to their first game, defending the USMNT as admirable and explaining how many different forces they're caught between in US society, getting heckled and threatened for playing the sport in a park by multiple softball families with children even though we weren't on their grass- if you want to question my loyalty as a fan after all that because I'm flaming out until JK and Gulati are gone, and because there's no way to make enough noise to make it happen, partly because some fans will defend them to the death- I have five words for you: fuck yourself, you goddamn asshole.
(I'm not going to name names, because I think that people could always change their minds on that, and it's not about having a war with someone on Y-A. But calling someone "a dumb fan" is totally different from calling someone "not a real fan")

This is the only email I could find for USSoccer, and I had to dig for it:
communications@ussoccer.org
On the main site, it's phone or address only. They apparently have pulled their feedback e-mail address from ussoccer. So that's who we're fucking dealing with, here.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #2
Tuesday October 13, 2015 9:15pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 9,047
See ya. I might not agree totally with you on all things, but I enjoy your posts most of the time. My guess you will be back posting with in 6 months.

USAGunner
West Palm Beach
Post #3
Tuesday October 13, 2015 9:43pm

Joined Jul 2013
Total Posts: 1,304
Your definition of a real fan/loyal fan would be spot on if it was a professional sports team.
I don't think that definition fits for supporting a national team (in any sport). You support a national team because you love the country. So whether that national team is the worst in the world or the best, you support them regardless of circumstances.
But that's just me.

2tone is right, you'll be back within 6 months.
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Mojofc
Post #4
Tuesday October 13, 2015 9:56pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 966
I think there is so much wrong with ussoccer but I won't stop following them because I support the players that represent their country in the sport I love.

Your choice though..

I'm vocal about my thoughts on MLS and ussoccer and I hope that's enough. Yes stopping watching is more effective in some ways but then your voice is also silenced in the soccer world.
Rain, rain, go away Come again another day - USMNT, MUFC
blaise213
Post #5
Tuesday October 13, 2015 9:56pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,364
Any time you have a soccer president who works the job part-time, you have a problem with the federation.

The whole USSF needs to be restructured anyways. Instead of having an HQ in Chicago (which basically looks like a museum), you need to do what Arthur Blank is doing for his Atlanta United team; combine the HQ with an academy ($30 million)

Build 6 - 8 USSF developmental academies/mixed with office facilities all over the US

I would also try get government subsidies to build these office/academies because we can focus on developing the low income urban kids.

blaise213
Post #6
Tuesday October 13, 2015 10:00pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,364
Original post from mmee

This is the only email I could find for USSoccer, and I had to dig for it:
communications@ussoccer.org
On the main site, it's phone or address only. They apparently have pulled their feedback e-mail address from ussoccer. So that's who we're fucking dealing with, here.


I have all the top US Soccer execs emails and Sunil's but I'm not going to post them because you won't accomplish anything.

snipes87
Cleveland, Ohio
Post #7
Tuesday October 13, 2015 10:01pm

Joined Jul 2013
Total Posts: 839
You're going to stop posting on forums because our soccer team isn't very good?
If you don't love it, leave it, USA #1
admsghs27
Post #8
Tuesday October 13, 2015 10:10pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 5,953
I would love Don Garber to be our next president of US SOCCER he will do much better things than Gulati because he actually knows about the sport.

stone88
Post #9
Tuesday October 13, 2015 10:18pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 1,438


admsghs27
Post #10
Tuesday October 13, 2015 10:19pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 5,953
Original post from blaise213

I have all the top US Soccer execs emails and Sunil's but I'm not going to post them because you won't accomplish anything.


I sent a letter trough conacacaf website to ussoccer. Hope they get back to me soon.

TheTruth
Post #11
Tuesday October 13, 2015 11:45pm

Joined Dec 2013
Total Posts: 950
I sent a letter to Santa. For a new train set and a new head of US Soccer.

You'll be back in 3 months, but it will be with a different username so we won't know.

skangles
DC
Post #12
Tuesday October 13, 2015 11:50pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 4,990
Adios mmee, I enjoyed your posts. Hope to see you back here before 2018.

Plus whom is gonna correct are grammar now without u?

blaise213
Post #13
Tuesday October 13, 2015 11:56pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,364
Original post from TheTruth

I sent a letter to Santa. For a new train set and a new head of US Soccer.

You'll be back in 3 months, but it will be with a different username so we won't know.


lmao

hamsamwich
Post #14
Wednesday October 14, 2015 12:01am

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 2,428
Gulati is the ultimate insider, but we already knew that. The players and country aren't going to change however, without that clown and Jürgen around to blame. The headquarters in chicago does look like a museum, my brother has worked in there before, even fancier on the inside. An incredible waste of money, but not necessarily a problem.

By mmee- good heels don't quit they just get more off the wall. Think cactus jack crossed with a us special forces...

skangles
DC
Post #15
Wednesday October 14, 2015 12:07am

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 4,990
Bravo on the Cactus Jack reference. E-C-Dub!

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