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2tone
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Post #1
Wednesday October 7, 2015 6:54am

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Bob has emerged as a contender for the Sunderland job.

Should he get the chance to show if he can handle an EPL team?

Should he even consider taking over a relegation battle team?

I would be excited if he did. Just to show people that he is a good coach.

Dave
Post #2
Wednesday October 7, 2015 11:26am

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Taking the Sunderland job could be a real risk. Americans in general are undervalued in Europe and tend to be judged very harshly. I would hate for Bradley to take the Sunderland Job (such a bad team) and have their relegation used as another black mark against Americans.

I would much rather see him take a Championship or Bundasliga II team and have them promoted to the 1st division. That way he'll be given time to work with the squad and not be fired out of hand.

Rey Regicide
Post #3
Wednesday October 7, 2015 12:26pm

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If Bob's intent is to win respect for USA managers, I mean there is literally no one int he field for club managers in Europe, then he has to take this job. Staving off relegation at Sunderland would be impressive, and the risk is well worth it. He's not in it for job security, he wants to gradually build, a team in the EPL has more rewards than any other league.

USnLFCfan
Savannah GA
Post #4
Wednesday October 7, 2015 1:59pm

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Sunderland isn't terrible considering some of the other talent at the bottom of the table. Borini, Ola, Lens, Defoe, Johnson, M'Vila, Larsson, and Coates are all good players and better than the majority of the players on bottom 5 teams.

Know Nothing
Post #5
Wednesday October 7, 2015 4:00pm

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Original post from USnLFCfan

Sunderland isn't terrible considering some of the other talent at the bottom of the table. Borini, Ola, Lens, Defoe, Johnson, M'Vila, Larsson, and Coates are all good players and better than the majority of the players on bottom 5 teams.


I would agree. On paper they are better than Villa and Newcastle as well as the promoted sides. The promoted sides do have chemistry on their side and avoiding relegation will be tough.

I do think Bradley could keep them up in the EPL this season, but I don't think this is the right time for a move for him. He is doing well in Norway and may even get his side into Europe.

Obviously an EPL job would be a feather in his cap and he is not the type to shy away from a challenge. From a posterity perspective for American managers, I would rather he stay in Norway and be in position to get Europa League experience than manage at a bottom feeder of the EPL

hamsamwich
Post #6
Wednesday October 7, 2015 4:28pm

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This would be perfect. Bradley is a grinder, getting the best out of poor teams. It's the perfect spot for him.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #7
Wednesday October 7, 2015 5:13pm

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I think it could be the perfect fit for him. Look what he has done with a team in Norway that doesn't have the funds to actually buy players. Bob has had to work with many financial restrictions. He also is very adept at getting more from the talent that is available to him.

dunlopp9987
Post #8
Wednesday October 7, 2015 5:26pm

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http://www.foxsports.com/soccer/story/stabaek...
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dolcem
Post #9
Wednesday October 7, 2015 5:42pm

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Original post from hamsamwich

This would be perfect. Bradley is a grinder, getting the best out of poor teams. It's the perfect spot for him.


Agreed. I've always thought a bottom-tier EPL team would be the best place for Bob in Europe.

He may not be a tactical genius but he gets his teams to play that gritty English style that EPL teams in relegation dogfights need. I think it'd be a much better fit than a top of the table Championship team, as someone suggested. Bob's teams are great at grinding out results against better opponents, while attacking prowess usually isn't a strength. Also, Sunderland has probably more talent than any Championship teams.

I think this is his chance and if it doesn't happen now, I don't know if/when he'll get another chance at a top-flight league. I really, really hope that happens. It would be a massive accomplishment for American soccer. Problem is though is Allardyce is available and he is the obvious hire. Allardyce is England's best at getting small teams to punch above their weight. After Advocaat, it makes no sense for them to take a risk on another foreign manager without EPL experience. Their mission is staying in the Prem and no one is better for the job than Sam. I'm hoping that for whatever reason he won't want to, but I don't see why that'd be the case. It's almost 100% certain to be Allardyce.
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dunlopp9987
Post #10
Wednesday October 7, 2015 5:51pm

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Original post from dolcem

Agreed. I've always thought a bottom-tier EPL team would be the best place for Bob in Europe.

He may not be a tactical genius but he gets his teams to play that gritty English style that EPL teams in relegation dogfights need. I think it'd be a much better fit than a top of the table Championship team, as someone suggested. Bob's teams are great at grinding out results against better opponents, while attacking prowess usually isn't a strength. Also, Sunderland has probably more talent than any Championship teams.

I think this is his chance and if it doesn't happen now, I don't know if/when he'll get another chance at a top-flight league. I really, really hope that happens. It would be a massive accomplishment for American soccer. Problem is though is Allardyce is available and he is the obvious hire. Allardyce is England's best at getting small teams to punch above their weight. After Advocaat, it makes no sense for them to take a risk on another foreign manager without EPL experience. Their mission is staying in the Prem and no one is better for the job than Sam. I'm hoping that for whatever reason he won't want to, but I don't see why that'd be the case. It's almost 100% certain to be Allardyce.


http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/61031...

I don't put a ton of stock in to what the English press says, but the first line says Big Sam will turn down an approach for the job.
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dolcem
Post #11
Wednesday October 7, 2015 5:55pm

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Original post from dunlopp9987

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/61031...

I don't put a ton of stock in to what the English press says, but the first line says Big Sam will turn down an approach for the job.


Really hope that's the case. You could make a good argument that Bradley would be a better hire than Pearson, who is the next best choice, and after that, there are no good options.
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USnLFCfan
Savannah GA
Post #12
Wednesday October 7, 2015 6:14pm

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Actually Pulis is the best at getting small clubs to punch above their weight.

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #13
Wednesday October 7, 2015 6:40pm

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I don't exactly see the risk, at least noto to the degree some are...if he can't right the ship in less than a full season, it could be his fault, but the promotion sides are performing above expectations and it's not all down to the manager. Get your face in the shop window, and if it doesn't work out then at least he tried.

dolcem
Post #14
Wednesday October 7, 2015 6:41pm

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Original post from USnLFCfan

Actually Pulis is the best at getting small clubs to punch above their weight.


Debatable, and anyway, he's not available.
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USnLFCfan
Savannah GA
Post #15
Wednesday October 7, 2015 6:58pm

Joined Nov 2012
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I don't see how it is, Stoke always overperformed, Took CP in six months from bottom to 11th and won manager of the year. Took West Brom in six months from 17th to 13th.

Sam parted ways with Newcastle because after spending money and should have been decent, they were terrible and he left in the winter window mutually. At Blackburn he was sacked finishing 15th, 10th, and 13th. West Ham, he spent a good bit of money, and finished 10th, 13th, 12th.

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