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navi8132
New York
Post #76
Wednesday March 15, 2017 5:49pm

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If we get 2nd in group we will likely play Mexico in knockouts. If we get 1st in group, we will likely play Honduras.

MSantoine
Post #77
Thursday March 16, 2017 1:44am

Joined Nov 2012
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Quarterfinals or bust. No excuse to bounce out before that round. Should get at least 6 points in group stage and shouldn't lose to Mexico or Honduras.

How in the world did they pick the pots for the draw. No rhyme or reason to it. Very strange.

hamsamwich
Post #78
Sunday March 19, 2017 5:13pm

Joined Oct 2013
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None of us know anything about these teams, don't pretend otherwise. The key will be who is allowed to play.... I remember last time Novakovich (what has happened to him?) not getting released seemed to hurt our chances once Maki Tall broke his foot. (Carouse injury pre-WC hurt too). Will Tab be able to get the full compliment and will guys stay healthy? Or will there be problems with releases followed by injuries? (Glad and Palmer-Brown need to recover from their respective knocks from the concacaf final.) Luck has a lot to do with it as well. But it seems the team is going to be dangerous, as Ramos seems sure of some of his best players being able to play, i.e. Zelalem, CCV, Perez, McKinnie, etc... Winning the regional tournament with less than a full team must be a boost to the confidence of the players, that with better attackers than Bofo Saucedo and Ebobisse the team could be very dangerous in the attack, with athletic range of CCV and EPB behind them. Two months to prepare, the clock is ticking. People show respect to Tab Ramos, he's been brilliant in five years instituting an identity and direction for this age group. Many have done well overseas at a young age, and Tab has been there all along. Progress doesn't come as quickly as many want but it's not Ramos' fault. With his playing experience for country and clubs, he's one of the most knowledgeable Americans ever in the soccer program. I like their chances this year.

tylercocinas
Post #79
Sunday March 19, 2017 5:54pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 1,109
Original post from hamsamwich
Tab Ramos, he's been brilliant in five years instituting an identity and direction for this age group.


What is that identity, in your opinion?

hamsamwich
Post #80
Monday March 20, 2017 4:01am

Joined Oct 2013
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Our players have been given the charge to act like grown ups and be in charge of their careers at that stage if they want to play. The seriousness with which the u20s have been taken has changed the last however long. Stylistically I think he prefers guys who play soccer with an international style, not just rugged counter attacking USA of old. Hence the Mikey Lopez, Marco Delgado as the #6, dribbling attacking wingers etc. I'm really looking forward to see who is chosen as I think we have the right guys to play the "correct way" which is certainly what Tab coaches. Expression and freedom on the field, creativity is prized over athleticism with Ramos.

Rey Regicide
Post #81
Monday March 20, 2017 1:11pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 1,965
i think it might be something simpler than that. I remember before 2013, the narrative was'nt just that they weren't technical it was that they didn't attack.

Our Jared Jeffrey, Mix Diskerud, Ownby, Tony Taylor brek Shea etc group in 2009 got like NO shots on goal, or didn't muster any threat outside of one game that dilly duka dialed it in from mid field.

In 2013 I remember thinking, wow these guys have edge.

We got spanked, yes, but at least we put shots on goal.

And ever since then it hasn't let up, and little by little we're seeing better results. How much of that is solely Tab, is debatable of course. But if my team produces above requirements and I showcase that at the division meeting, guess what? I keep my job.

Dave
Post #82
Thursday March 23, 2017 1:09am

Joined Jul 2014
Total Posts: 763
Wright, McKennie, & Taitague have been seeing consistent minutes w/ Schalke's U-19 squad and are now training with Schalke's first team.

http://sbisoccer.com/2017/03/u-s-u-20s-wright...

I'd call that a good sign for their potential inclusion with the US U-20 squad this summer.

EKneezy
Atlanta
Post #83
Thursday March 23, 2017 3:56am

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 2,940
I hope so. I wonder if Schalke would release all three. That seems like a miracle but Tab should at least fight to get them.

Gonna be some good names missing from the team when it's announced.

hamsamwich
Post #84
Thursday March 23, 2017 2:55pm

Joined Oct 2013
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McKennie and Taitague (if released) are shoe ins for me. Taitague in particular is very interesting with his skills on the ball and ability to make plays happen, a weakness of the concacaf champion group.

Yes, good players who will be good for the senior team, a la Gooch will not make this team, for sure.

EKneezy
Atlanta
Post #85
Wednesday March 29, 2017 8:46pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 2,940
Jonathan Klinsmann is trialing with Everton

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/art...

Also a nice tidbit: LB Antonee Robinson was invited to the U20s for a camp next week

skangles
DC
Post #86
Wednesday March 29, 2017 10:16pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 5,292
Are you guys that high on Klinsmann? I see him as a decent U20 keeper who might be an MLS starter down the road.

tylercocinas
Post #87
Wednesday March 29, 2017 10:26pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 1,109
Original post from skangles

Are you guys that high on Klinsmann? I see him as a decent U20 keeper who might be an MLS starter down the road.


Vom Steeg is a better keeper according to most reports I've seen.

MSantoine
Post #88
Thursday March 30, 2017 11:26am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 3,723
Reports are in that Antone Robinson (LB) will be released to the U20 team. That shores up one of our weakest spots in the starting XI

Rey Regicide
Post #89
Thursday March 30, 2017 12:13pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 1,965
In my opinion Jonathan Klinsmann sucks. It's not because of the Donovan thing, or him being Jk's son. Jk?

His reactions are terrible, I don't think those get better with age. You get faster, stronger, but you don't suddenly go "Hey I need to be here". It wasn't that he was slow, it was that he was truly poor starting to get to a shot.

The best thing about him is his ability with his feet. That too is something you can work on, but you're not goign to suddenly become Casillas. Positioning he can learn, and maybe he can learn it so well that the balls will start bouncing ricocheting off his head. But I can see him properly placed and the ball literally racing by his feet.

Rey Regicide
Post #90
Thursday March 30, 2017 12:58pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 1,965
http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2017/03/29/star...

Cody Cropper, lol

I know this site is about the under 20's. Let me get to my point.

We ALL saw Cropper underwhelm in games and it was basically down to bad reflexes. Cropper is NEVER going to get that down.

Zach Steffen literally saved us in the Serbia game and we SHOULD HAVE WON IF NOT FOR NERFING PENALA LWEJLKJW EAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH

ok sorry about that. But Zach Steffan literally was born with better reflexes than Cropper. Is Cropper a better goalie at this point. Probably. Steffan will be better than him when he gets to his age.

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