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USnLFCfan
Savannah GA
Post #61
Monday August 10, 2015 6:08pm

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Original post from blaise213

Please man, any natural athlete can learn to play soccer. I can hit a home run (ex ball player), I can throw a football 65 yards and play QB,WR, S, CB, LB, dunk a basketball, shit, I used to play street hockey growing up.... I can even do x games shit and do a kickflip on a skateboard.

I started playing soccer just for the exercise a couple years ago and already had the natural ability to pass and kick but it took me like 2 months to get comfortable on the ball and learn the shake and bake skills. Now I bend that shit like Beckham....


Absolutely false. It all depends on when you getting them. If you are trying to get natural athletes at the HS age, it's too late. You can make them into serviceable (at most) players at HS level (not club) but past that they won't have the technical ability. As far as your soccer "skills", you might think you can do things, and you might can do it at your Sunday Funday league but against guys that have played since 5/6 years old, you would get worked over (and that's just guys that played regularly and never went past HS soccer). I've tried taking athletes to my HS team (first coaching job).....of the 12+ over 3 years, two players turned out to make any impact, a RB who was getting looked at by some small D1 schools, ran a 4.4 40. Worked with him individually every day after practice for two months prior to games....put him at CF, and he scored 12 goals that year, all off through balls and 1v1s with the keeper, and headers....anytime he had a defender or had to dribble ourt of pressure he would lose it. The other I worked with, a 6-3 WR, at keeper, again every day after practice...he was my protege (good kid with good head on his shoulders), he won all district honors his junior and senior year, and had a couple of D2 schools looking at him, I even had the coach at GSU want him as a preferred walk-on after I called him to give him a look. Outside of that....it doesn't work at the high levels.

USnLFCfan
Savannah GA
Post #62
Monday August 10, 2015 6:12pm

Joined Nov 2012
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Original post from cudevil

Agree with this. Hitting a baseball at a high level is probably the single most difficult thing to do in sports.


Close......I still say hitting a volley coming from behind across the backshoulder on a 60 yard ball is still the hardest thing to do.

MSantoine
Post #63
Monday August 10, 2015 6:58pm

Joined Nov 2012
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Original post from cudevil

Agree with this. Hitting a baseball at a high level is probably the single most difficult thing to do in sports.


Sorry to call this out but you hit a nerve. This is the single most over rated argument in all of sports. I hate hearing the arguement that its hard to do because you fail 2 of 3 times your an all star. That is just false. The act of hitting the baseball is not very hard at all. Fangraphs charted every pitch thrown over a three year period. They found that each year the results were the same. When a major league player swings his bat he makes contact over 80% of the time. Yes this includes foul balls, and outs made. But some of those are out of the batters control. Id say anything you succed at doing 80% of the time, ie swing bat, make contact, its not hard. For comparison sake great basketball players score on less than half of their attempts. So its much harder to score a basket in basketball then hit a baseball.

Sorry. Rant over. And nothing personal. Just a pet peeve arguement of mine

hamsamwich
Post #64
Monday August 10, 2015 8:24pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 3,212
I'd say it's all individual. I can't hit a baseball to save my life but basketball and then soccer I find easier.

The 10,000 hours of practice thing definitely applies.

camparkinson
Post #65
Monday August 10, 2015 8:54pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 332
Lleget is a guy I want to see given a chance with the NATS and soon. I really like the look of his game, he's setting up chances, scoring nice goals and playing with a lot of confidence on the ball. I don't think he's too slow he's just not a speedster on the wing which isn't necessary to be successful. Quick feet and quickness with the ball, yea he's got that.

blaise213
Post #66
Monday August 10, 2015 9:19pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,987
I'm seriously gonna start a Go fund me fundraiser for everyone on here to meet up to play game of soccer!

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #67
Monday August 10, 2015 9:20pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,467
Original post from USnLFCfan

Close......I still say hitting a volley coming from behind across the backshoulder on a 60 yard ball is still the hardest thing to do.


I would argue that hitting a hole-in-one in golf would be more statistically difficult than either connecting with the above cross or hitting a 90 MPH fastball.

TheTruth
Post #68
Monday August 10, 2015 9:26pm

Joined Dec 2013
Total Posts: 950
It's always astounding to me on these forums when so many people admit to pretty much hardly ever playing soccer in their entire lives. So, I'm guessing any YA pick up game would be God awful.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #69
Monday August 10, 2015 9:26pm

Joined Jul 2012
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Original post from camparkinson

Lleget is a guy I want to see given a chance with the NATS and soon. I really like the look of his game, he's setting up chances, scoring nice goals and playing with a lot of confidence on the ball. I don't think he's too slow he's just not a speedster on the wing which isn't necessary to be successful. Quick feet and quickness with the ball, yea he's got that.


Exactly. Soccer is about 5 to 10 yard quick bursts. Rarely will you need or see a 40 yard sprint. Lletget has the necessary quickness to be an effective wide player.

USnLFCfan
Savannah GA
Post #70
Monday August 10, 2015 9:28pm

Joined Nov 2012
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Original post from recycledhumans

I would argue that hitting a hole-in-one in golf would be more statistically difficult than either connecting with the above cross or hitting a 90 MPH fastball.


Yeah, forget about golf.

USnLFCfan
Savannah GA
Post #71
Monday August 10, 2015 9:29pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,410
Original post from TheTruth

It's always astounding to me on these forums when so many people admit to pretty much hardly ever playing soccer in their entire lives. So, I'm guessing any YA pick up game would be God awful.


Whatever...I think it would be fun. Ha. Me and Kev can carpool though he's rarely here anymore.

tylercocinas
Post #72
Monday August 10, 2015 9:31pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 1,151
Original post from TheTruth

It's always astounding to me on these forums when so many people admit to pretty much hardly ever playing soccer in their entire lives. So, I'm guessing any YA pick up game would be God awful.


It would be a day to forget to say the least. I'd rather start a go fund me to check out a USMNT with yall before we played pick-up ha.

cudevil
Post #73
Monday August 10, 2015 9:31pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 984
Original post from MSantoine

Sorry to call this out but you hit a nerve. This is the single most over rated argument in all of sports. I hate hearing the arguement that its hard to do because you fail 2 of 3 times your an all star. That is just false. The act of hitting the baseball is not very hard at all. Fangraphs charted every pitch thrown over a three year period. They found that each year the results were the same. When a major league player swings his bat he makes contact over 80% of the time. Yes this includes foul balls, and outs made. But some of those are out of the batters control. Id say anything you succed at doing 80% of the time, ie swing bat, make contact, its not hard. For comparison sake great basketball players score on less than half of their attempts. So its much harder to score a basket in basketball then hit a baseball.

Sorry. Rant over. And nothing personal. Just a pet peeve arguement of mine


It has little to do with failure rate and everything to do with the number of decisions that have to be made in about a hundredth of a second. Failure rate is indicative of the difficulty. And adding in foul balls is stupid. That's not "hitting" the ball.

Also, so what if you "make contact" on 80% of the swings? What if I'm only swinging at 20% of the strikes because my batting eye isn't good enough?

hamsamwich
Post #74
Monday August 10, 2015 9:36pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 3,212
@blaise- I'll be in San Fran and sac town the 25-30th. We can give some lessons to the scrubs.

dfw_fan
DfW
Post #75
Tuesday August 11, 2015 2:23am

Joined Apr 2013
Total Posts: 999
Original post from recycledhumans

I would argue that hitting a hole-in-one in golf would be more statistically difficult than either connecting with the above cross or hitting a 90 MPH fastball.


Hitting a sixer on a perfect yorker would be the definition of impossible.

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