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Post #106
Sunday December 20, 2015 1:33pm

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What does our players being 'over worked' have to do with Germany?

dolcem
Post #107
Monday December 21, 2015 7:40am

Joined Nov 2012
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Original post from admsghs27

What philosophies players have came out that he didn't teach squad such as kroos a super star and key german player. Just to refresh your memory again Germany made the Euro final in 2008 two years after the JK coaching debacle experiment. Don't think he made a single positive thing during his tenure at Germany and Bayern and i bet all or most would agree. Just look at their recent success after he left.


You are, and I don't use this term lightly, an idiot.

In 2002 Germany beat Saudi Arabia, tied Ireland, beat Cameroon, and then beat Paraguay, the US, and South Korea (by one goal each game) before getting spanked by Brazil. The 2000 and 2004 Euro teams were a complete disaster. The German national team, and German soccer in general, was in serious decline when Klinsmann took over. This is simply indisputable and anyone knowledgeable about soccer understands this. Klinsmann completely changed the way they played and no one was expecting a third place finish before the tournament (and they were extremely unlucky to lose to Italy in the semi-finals, and were the best team that tournament). Many of his picks became national team mainstays, such as Bastian Schweinsteiger and Joachim Low (a complete unknown before Klinsmann came along). Others, like Podolski and Odonkor, never were able to recapture the form they found under Klinsmann. And if Low was the genius behind everything, why is it that he couldn't win in three success tournaments despite having much better squads than Klinsmann did?

Klinsmann was begged by the German FA to come back. He turned them down so he could manage the USNT, and after Gulati said no, he went to coach at Bayern (where he was fired when they were two points out of first and had lost to Barcelona in the CL QF, better than any American manager would do). Can you name me one manager in the world who would pick the USNT over the German NT and Bayern Munich?

Klinsmann may not be a world class manager but he gets job offers at places American coaches (or most players, for that matter) wouldn't dream of (Tottenham, Switerland, etc.). And last cycle was a massive success. If you think Sigi Schmid is going to win us a World Cup, you should just stop watching soccer.
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admsghs27
Post #108
Monday December 21, 2015 8:20am

Joined Nov 2012
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Original post from dolcem

You are, and I don't use this term lightly, an idiot.

In 2002 Germany beat Saudi Arabia, tied Ireland, beat Cameroon, and then beat Paraguay, the US, and South Korea (by one goal each game) before getting spanked by Brazil. The 2000 and 2004 Euro teams were a complete disaster. The German national team, and German soccer in general, was in serious decline when Klinsmann took over. This is simply indisputable and anyone knowledgeable about soccer understands this. Klinsmann completely changed the way they played and no one was expecting a third place finish before the tournament (and they were extremely unlucky to lose to Italy in the semi-finals, and were the best team that tournament). Many of his picks became national team mainstays, such as Bastian Schweinsteiger and Joachim Low (a complete unknown before Klinsmann came along). Others, like Podolski and Odonkor, never were able to recapture the form they found under Klinsmann. And if Low was the genius behind everything, why is it that he couldn't win in three success tournaments despite having much better squads than Klinsmann did?

Klinsmann was begged by the German FA to come back. He turned them down so he could manage the USNT, and after Gulati said no, he went to coach at Bayern (where he was fired when they were two points out of first and had lost to Barcelona in the CL QF, better than any American manager would do). Can you name me one manager in the world who would pick the USNT over the German NT and Bayern Munich?

Klinsmann may not be a world class manager but he gets job offers at places American coaches (or most players, for that matter) wouldn't dream of (Tottenham, Switerland, etc.). And last cycle was a massive success. If you think Sigi Schmid is going to win us a World Cup, you should just stop watching soccer.


Must be mad cause river lost the final.. Even tho your an independiente fan. Anyways They got to the final and did not get spanked plus they were missing their best player at the time ( Ballack ). And those teams you listed USA could not beat such as SK and yes i do think Germany robbed USA but your going back to 2002. I'm talking about the JK era and beyond he did not do Nothing for Germany or even Bayern just look at their success after he left. It ain't no fluke.

dfw_fan
DfW
Post #109
Monday December 21, 2015 10:18am

Joined Apr 2013
Total Posts: 928
Blatter and Platini banned for 8 years...
FBI/WC 2022 says hello from the other side...

admsghs27
Post #110
Monday December 21, 2015 10:25am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 6,060
Original post from dfw_fan

Blatter and Platini banned for 8 years...
FBI/WC 2022 says hello from the other side...


Karma love it.....

cleancutimage
Post #111
Monday December 21, 2015 1:53pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 1,197
Original post from admsghs27

Must be mad cause river lost the final.. Even tho your an independiente fan. Anyways They got to the final and did not get spanked plus they were missing their best player at the time ( Ballack ). And those teams you listed USA could not beat such as SK and yes i do think Germany robbed USA but your going back to 2002. I'm talking about the JK era and beyond he did not do Nothing for Germany or even Bayern just look at their success after he left. It ain't no fluke.


Wait a minute, didn't you bring up 2002? Now, it is irrelevant. This is why I have to go so hard on you. You use stats when it is convenient for you and then disregard them when it is not. No one brought up the 2002 German WC team until you did and when we do bring up facts about that team, you try to disregard them even though you brought up the team in the first place.

skangles
DC
Post #112
Monday December 21, 2015 7:38pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 5,293
Original post from dfw_fan

Blatter and Platini banned for 8 years...
FBI/WC 2022 says hello from the other side...


Great to hear. There was always the risk that Blatter would change his mind about stepping down.

skangles
DC
Post #113
Monday December 21, 2015 7:42pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 5,293
"Human beings need to be respected. It has created a lot of collateral damage in the families. My family was mocked. I regret I am this punching bag. FIFA is still working well, I congratulate Barcelona to winning the Club World Cup. I am a man of principles. These principles are: never take money that is not earned. Secondly, pay your debts. I'll be back."

-Blatter

dolcem
Post #114
Tuesday December 22, 2015 7:43am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,757
Original post from admsghs27

Must be mad cause river lost the final.. Even tho your an independiente fan. Anyways They got to the final and did not get spanked plus they were missing their best player at the time ( Ballack ). And those teams you listed USA could not beat such as SK and yes i do think Germany robbed USA but your going back to 2002. I'm talking about the JK era and beyond he did not do Nothing for Germany or even Bayern just look at their success after he left. It ain't no fluke.


You were the one that brought up 2002. Your claim that Klinsmann "did not do nothing" for Germany is ridiculous because the German national team was in complete shambles when Klinsmann took over and he revolutionized the way they played and made them arguably the best team in the world. You give Low the credit but Klinsmann was the one who made Low famous and Low was unable to do better than Klinsmann did in three success tournaments despite having better squads. Bayern improved after Klinsmann left but that's because they spent 70 million afterwards.

I would also like to point out another grammar mistake of yours. "Did not do nothing" is not an English language construction. You're translating from the Spanish "no hizo nada." In Spanish, double negatives are used all of the time to add emphasis. In English, it is completely incorrect and a mistake you will not hear a native speaker make. You complain about dual-nationals not speaking English well enough to play for the national team but it is entirely obvious that you are an immigrant yourself and that your command of the English language needs improvement. It's this kind of hypocrisy that makes you such a target here.
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Post #115
Tuesday December 22, 2015 2:14pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 1,965
Original post from dolcem

You were the one that brought up 2002. Your claim that Klinsmann "did not do nothing" for Germany is ridiculous because the German national team was in complete shambles when Klinsmann took over and he revolutionized the way they played and made them arguably the best team in the world. You give Low the credit but Klinsmann was the one who made Low famous and Low was unable to do better than Klinsmann did in three success tournaments despite having better squads. Bayern improved after Klinsmann left but that's because they spent 70 million afterwards.

I would also like to point out another grammar mistake of yours. "Did not do nothing" is not an English language construction. You're translating from the Spanish "no hizo nada." In Spanish, double negatives are used all of the time to add emphasis. In English, it is completely incorrect and a mistake you will not hear a native speaker make. You complain about dual-nationals not speaking English well enough to play for the national team but it is entirely obvious that you are an immigrant yourself and that your command of the English language needs improvement. It's this kind of hypocrisy that makes you such a target here.


Dolcem bro, thank you so much for this.

Not for burning dude. I mean, his views are his..

I mean for the revelation about that "Didn't do nothing"

I was curious, so I went to google translate. Apparently, in Italian, it's non ha fatto nulla.

It seems to be a mechanics thing in Latin languages.

It's especially significant to me I've been a history/anthropology buff of late and it raises a curiosity. The origins of things in our cultures.

Thing that gets me is if this thing is Germanic, the disallowing the double negatives.

to stay relevant with the thread

Do you really think it's the position of trust and power that corrupts people?

I mean Michel Platini? That dude is like two backheels away from being a Zidane, he was a revered french footballing saint.

Or maybe that's my issue, the footballer and the man are to be viewed as two entirely different entities.

TheTruth
Post #116
Tuesday December 22, 2015 5:29pm

Joined Dec 2013
Total Posts: 950
There's billions of dollars floating around. Too tempting for most people. And most countries don't view bribes as negatively as we do in the US. Crossing my fingers that some of these guys will die in shame like Joe Paterno.

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Post #117
Tuesday December 22, 2015 5:55pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 1,197
Original post from TheTruth

There's billions of dollars floating around. Too tempting for most people. And most countries don't view bribes as negatively as we do in the US. Crossing my fingers that some of these guys will die in shame like Joe Paterno.


Paterno did not die of shame. He died of a broken heart from how he was ousted by Penn St. Now, if Blatter dies it would be out of shame because he knows he was playing dirty. I wanted Blatter to be made an example simply because of his arrogance. He thought he could not be touched and he was God's gift to soccer. Too bad it is too late, he was allowed to make his imprint on the game. But I don't want that prince to become president either. All I see is corruption from him.

BG6
Post #118
Tuesday December 22, 2015 8:02pm

Joined May 2014
Total Posts: 74
Original post from cleancutimage

But I don't want that prince to become president either. All I see is corruption from him.


Interesting view and contradictory to the articles and commentary I have seen on Prince Ali the last few years. During that period he has been quite the vocal critic and urging widespread reforms and overhaul of Fifa. Of course one could argue that this is self-serving to get elected, however, what incentive would that be for people within Fifa to vote for him that are already getting wealthy under the current regime? This seems counterintuitive to be so public on his part. Based upon your comment I went and searched for articles supporting concerns of corruption however they weren't immediately forthcoming. Would you please cite some evidence? I would be really keen to read it. I am certain concerns don't arise from the fact that he is from Jordan and Muslim and an extension of fears against people from the region, particularly Muslims.

skangles
DC
Post #119
Wednesday February 24, 2016 4:45am

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 5,293
The FIFA election is a six hour televised event in the wee hours of Friday morning. six hours? Eyes bulging.

coverby
Post #120
Wednesday February 24, 2016 4:47am

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 497
Original post from skangles

The FIFA election is a six hour televised event in the wee hours of Friday morning. six hours? Eyes bulging.


I wonder if Bepp Slatter or Pichel Mlatini will win

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