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hamsamwich
Post #76
Wednesday July 29, 2015 12:31am

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Original post from 2tone

Horvath is making a name for himself. I wouldn't be surprised to see him as the Olympic starting GK. Probably won't be on the Olympic qualifying tournament due to Molde being in season still.
Let's just say (likely) that both Horvath and Steffen don't get released... Then what? Olsen/Caldwell or whatever those guys names are?

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #77
Wednesday July 29, 2015 1:02am

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I could Steffen being released. He is currently the third string keeper. Cropper, Bono, Miller are all strong possibilities.

skangles
DC
Post #78
Wednesday July 29, 2015 1:53am

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The Olympic Qualifying tournament is October 1-13. The FIFA international window is Oct 5-13.

Wouldn't players at least have to be released for the FIFA window?

Dave
Post #79
Wednesday July 29, 2015 3:24am

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Goal Keeper is one position that the US has been able to generate quality at for years. And as of now we look to be set at the position for a long time to come:

Guzan - 30 yrs old
Howard - 36 yrs old
Yarbrough - 26 yrs old
S. Johnson - 26 yrs old
Hamid - 24 yrs old
Cropper - 22 yrs old
Horvath - 20 yrs old
Steffen - 20 yrs old

We've got 2 very good established Vets to see us through this cycle and mentor the next generation of Keepers. Then we have 3 guys getting 1st team minutes and developing, and 3 guys who have great potential just starting their careers.
There are other very good keepers out there as well who could come into their own and make a case for their inclusion, but these are the top prospects at each of the age brackets.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #80
Wednesday July 29, 2015 6:17am

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FIFA only states that teams have to release for the Olympic Games not the qualifying tournaments.

hamsamwich
Post #81
Wednesday July 29, 2015 6:36am

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Remember Brooks among others was left out when we didn't qualify last time.

EKneezy
Atlanta
Post #82
Wednesday August 26, 2015 5:49am

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Cant forget Cropper . Made his debut for MK Dons. Went 120 and had 6 saves. MK Dons beat Cardiff 2-1. On the next round for them.

MSantoine
Post #83
Wednesday August 26, 2015 11:22am

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Happy for Cropper. He made a great choice. He'll be the number 2 ready to pounce if the starter struggles. He's already making the bench for 1st team and getting these cup games. Im guessing he'll get 5-7 1st team matches this year and maybe take over next year or the year after.

hamsamwich
Post #84
Thursday September 3, 2015 6:09pm

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With the news that Guzan will be starting the BIG game vs Mexico in a month I thought we may take a second and look at the big picture, Russia 2018....

Tim Howard took last year off for the USMNT, and instead of saving his body and keeping healthy and playing better, Howard had his worst season at Everton and looked at times his age. He's still capable of those jaw dropping saves, but it's his slight movements that have taken a bit of a slip. Still a good player, but Russia is three years away and it wouldn't surprise me if Howard doesn't make it. Players never want to accept they are finished, and Howard isn't, but this year at Everton is HUGE for Timmy.

Guzan has been the understudy for years and is entering his prime. Is it his time yet- or has Howard just given him the opportunity??? This year for Guzan is the biggest of his career. A good year with the USA and we could possibly see Guzan get transferred to real club. The ball is in his court. Aston Villa is a dumpster fire, but he's always going to be busy in those games.

The other contenders: (fill in your favorite contender for the job)
These are the players going for the backup role to Guzan (especially if Howard doesn't make it three more years) basically for World Cup Qualifying/Russia 2018...
*** my contender is, no surprise, Sean Johnson. Stop after stop, Johnson shows his athleticism, good hands and quickness. He has professionalism, the type of work ethic loved by all coaches. And he has improved every year in his career. I expect Sean to be a yank abroad shortly, I'm surprised it didn't happen in the transfer window that just occurred. He has the desire to go, and the Fire have no ambition so I can't see him staying. A move is what he needs to jump start his national team career, as he is a lot better than Yarbrough for example. Will be #3 this week v Brazil.

TheTruth
Post #85
Thursday September 3, 2015 8:35pm

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Uh, isn't NEXT year the bigger year for Howard (and everyone else)?

hamsamwich
Post #86
Thursday September 3, 2015 10:30pm

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Smart ass. Of course it is. Thing is- it's the tipping point for Howard. In his own words, "he's never been a backup." I hope he earns the job back because he plus great for Everton. But we always took his performances for granted, now it's not the case.

TheTruth
Post #87
Friday September 4, 2015 4:56am

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Total Posts: 950
He's fine. Getting old. Happens to the best of us. We've had a history of goalies pulling things out of their asses at world cups. As we get better and get dominated on the filed less, we'll have fewer insane performances from Keller, Friedel, Howard, whoever is in there.

Mojofc
Post #88
Friday September 4, 2015 5:14am

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 966
""On D.C. United goalkeeper Bill Hamid's absence from the national team -

"Both young keepers [Hamid and Chicago's Sean Johnson] are still going through ups and downs - physically with injuries and also with performance. Billy has some days he is phenomenal and then the next day, ‘Oh, I have an injury, I'm out.' It's a workload they are going through. For a goalkeeper, the most important thing is consistency week in and week out.""

"""It's also applying your game we ask you to play to your club, if possible: speed up things, play quickly out of the back, come out of your box if you need to close the gap toward your backline - things we want to see. If they don't do that in their club environment, it doesn't make it easy for them coming back to our environment. With Sean over Billy [in this window], the schedule was better.

"We try to keep them connected, but really they haven't gotten closer to the top two guys [Tim Howard and Brad Guzan] at all. [William] Yarbrough is in a similar situation. The reality is there are two big stars and Nick Rimando is always the backup because he gives 100 percent seriousness and is a team guy. The goalkeeping situation hasn't changed at all for almost four years, and we've given the youngsters many, many chances."""

JK on the younger keepers.
Rain, rain, go away Come again another day - USMNT, MUFC
MSantoine
Post #89
Friday September 4, 2015 2:22pm

Joined Nov 2012
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I would say that its very clear that Cropper, Steffen, & Horvath will be given every opportunity to pass yarborough and Hamid/Johnson in the next couple of years. Likely scenario heading into 2017 (year that matters most as you need to be breaking into/already into a great situation to go from not in team picture to pushing for starter)

Horvath- Starter at Molde. Perennial UCL matches. Debating transferring to low level EPL club.

Steffen- 2.bundes starter. Will have to see how he handles week in, week out status.

Cropper- Championsip starter. Cropper will likely be the Dons starter next year (2016). Whether its with them or a promotion seeking champs team (MK Dons will be lucky not to be relegated by 2017) he should be a starter by then.

Hamid- MLS Starter? I see him following Rimando's path and never leaving.

Johnson- European League. Id be shocked if hes still in MLS. The question is where is he. Will he go the Belgium/Denmark route? Champs league? EPL backup? Big wild card.

Yarborough- MX backup. I dont think he'll be anywhere near good enough for us. He has shown his many weaknesses lately.

hamsamwich
Post #90
Saturday September 5, 2015 1:51pm

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Brad Guzan with a nice performance.

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