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skangles
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Post #481
Thursday June 11, 2015 1:00pm

Joined Jan 2013
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Can we call this the best week in US soccer history?

1) MNT wins over the Netherlands and Germany on their turf

2) U-23s win third place in Toulon

3) U-20s beat Colombia to reach the quarterfinals

4) WNT get past a tricky Australian side in the WWC

5) DaMarcus Beasley comes out of retirement and makes the provisional Gold Cup roster

6) DOJ takes down FIFA leading to Blatter's resignation (not US soccer I know but Gulati had been outspoken against Blatter so I am counting it).

Only blemish on the week is the Ukraine loss which is water under the bridge now having beaten Colombia.

Rey Regicide
Post #482
Thursday June 11, 2015 1:03pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 2,001
Original post from skangles

Yep, his defending was poor which makes him well suited for the NBA. The NBA didn't have coaches like Blatt and Messina when Saras came over or it could have worked out differently for Saras.


Or D'antoni, but to bring this back to the topic, sorry guys

Bradley is boss, and beckerman doesn't need to stay on the team, but we need someone that looks like Beckerman, and in my humble opinion I think Kitchen is great, he's an engine, but he looks more like Williams than he does Beckerman. We need an anchor there. You guys do know that holding midfielder is called holding because he has to hold the line right? like he should advance the ball NOT by dribbling, but by passing it, and advancing the ball isn't his exclusive job. His only goal in passing is to give it to someone with vision, someone unmarked with passing angles open and favoring him instead of himself.

Rey Regicide
Post #483
Thursday June 11, 2015 1:05pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 2,001
Original post from skangles

Can we call this the best week in US soccer history?

1) MNT wins over the Netherlands and Germany on their turf

2) U-23s win third place in Toulon

3) U-20s beat Colombia to reach the quarterfinals

4) WNT get past a tricky Australian side in the WWC

5) DaMarcus Beasley comes out of retirement and makes the provisional Gold Cup roster

6) DOJ takes down FIFA leading to Blatter's resignation (not US soccer I know but Gulati had been outspoken against Blatter so I am counting it).

Only blemish on the week is the Ukraine loss which is water under the bridge now having beaten Colombia.


wasn't that Ukraine game outside of the week!!! =D Technicality for the win!!!

USAGunner
West Palm Beach
Post #484
Thursday June 11, 2015 1:35pm

Joined Jul 2013
Total Posts: 1,322
Find it funny that People are saying ArJo isn't getting any service. Yet the guy he is playing next to gets 6-7 shots. Then he is subbed off and his sub gets plenty of service.

At some point if EVERYONE else is getting service around him and his subs are getting service you have to look at ArJo and think maybe it's something he's doing (or not doing) as to why he isn't getting service.

Bradley is playing great and delivering great through balls, etc. Yet ArJo can't get on the receiving end of those? I think ArJo isn't putting himself into position to succeed.

As far as Altidore. Look at his stats last time Bradley was playing like this (like a beast). Altidore was tearing it up and our team looked very good. People have short memories.
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hamsamwich
Post #485
Thursday June 11, 2015 1:46pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 3,212
Johansson whiffed on a great pass from the left by I believe Timmy Chandler. He was unmarked between the pk spot and the 6 yard box. Total mis contact with his left foot, barely touched the ball. If that's a different player we are all over him for blowing that chance. Even Friedel said something like: "shocking to see him miss that, he has the technique to score that or put it on target normally". I get the overall point, and playing with Zardes doesn't help, but Aron Johansson needs to do more finishing. His hold up play and skill on the ball are unquestioned. Fantastic player, he just needs to up his game.

mmee
Culver City, CA
Post #486
Thursday June 11, 2015 2:14pm

Joined Mar 2014
Total Posts: 2,147
Original post from Rey Regicide

In your minds, can you see Dempsey, Altidore doing the moves and runs and positioning that these guys did these past two games. I know it's only two games, but just remember Altidore's touch against Spain, the turn and shot. He needs to outmass a defender, I think it was Capdevilla, and a lucky ricochet off of Casillas.


Food for thought.


(watch me come to find out tomorrow Wood does small time arms deals in northern Africa)


Classic...

Wood confused the crap out of that defense.

cleancutimage
Post #487
Thursday June 11, 2015 2:26pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 1,310
To question Dempsey and Altidore's place in these games is ridiculous. They would not hold us back only make us better. These are two of the players who fit Klinsmann's ideas best. Dempsey is probably our best player at creating his own shot and Altidore is arguably our most clinical finisher. I felt AJ was playing as if he was Altidore and looking too much for service to get his chances and he is not that type of player. I can see Altidore being isolated and not being a factor but there is no way that should be the case for AJ. If AJ has to drop back into the middle third to get touches then do so. But don't go unseen in the final third and just be a player on the field Especially with his ability to create his own shot and shoot from outside the box.

Rey Regicide
Post #488
Thursday June 11, 2015 2:36pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 2,001
It's not that I don't like Altidore, maybe it's the fact that Altdiore is in games where we go against other teams full strength.

Look, here's the thing, over the course of the past 5 years, Altidore has gotten BIG. He looks like a football player, but he has lost the ability to move laterally and be shifty. This doesn't hurt us too much because you know, we think soccer is like basketball and we need a post player (? WHAT? If anything, your forwards are like guards making cuts in front of line backers. Not because of the size of the defense, but because the backline is essentially a cover zone line.)

I know Dempsey and Altidore are better players, but do you honestly think we can break as fast with those guys? Can we play the way we did against Holland and Germany with those two? Is Jurgen thinking this?

It seems like we're trying to make the effort to go faster on attacks. Especially if the nexus of our attack is going to be exclusively Bradley. But that really requires us moving pieces around from what we're accustomed to seeing. Also, if the opposing team throws out their own Beckerman, or pair of Beckermans, better skilled Beckermans, that space in front of Bradley will NOT be there. And require us to move up the flanks or be... wait for it... better in possession in tight spaces...

There were alot of Bradley fails in the open court (open field?) it had to do with attackers taking themselves out of attacking positions. I saw three instances of 3 v 4 or even 4 v 4 against German defenders. And in nearly all of those our guys ran post patterns LOL. Like seriously! Stagger your positions!!! Take 2 to 3 guys, put them in a post route ok, then 1 guy come short for the ball. THAT TURNS A DEFENSIVE LINE into a vulnerable arrangement. Mix's goal Mix was running down his lane which made sense because of a vacated spot. But if there's a defender there I wonder what his movement would have looked like.

Rey Regicide
Post #489
Thursday June 11, 2015 2:38pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 2,001
Original post from cleancutimage

To question Dempsey and Altidore's place in these games is ridiculous. They would not hold us back only make us better. These are two of the players who fit Klinsmann's ideas best. Dempsey is probably our best player at creating his own shot and Altidore is arguably our most clinical finisher. I felt AJ was playing as if he was Altidore and looking too much for service to get his chances and he is not that type of player. I can see Altidore being isolated and not being a factor but there is no way that should be the case for AJ. If AJ has to drop back into the middle third to get touches then do so. But don't go unseen in the final third and just be a player on the field Especially with his ability to create his own shot and shoot from outside the box.


Well that's why I'm not the coach =D

We have plenty of games coming, and both of them are sure to be first choice. I hope they have a great tournament.

hamsamwich
Post #490
Thursday June 11, 2015 2:42pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 3,212
I agree with Jozy being too big. But Dempsey is all about playing quick and fast. He may be our best overall player at attacking. I think Deuce is licking his chops watching those two games... He won't want to be showed up by the others. I'd like to hope Jozy has a similar response, but of the two, I'm confident Dempsey will.

Rey Regicide
Post #491
Thursday June 11, 2015 2:48pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 2,001
Original post from hamsamwich

I agree with Jozy being too big. But Dempsey is all about playing quick and fast. He may be our best overall player at attacking. I think Deuce is licking his chops watching those two games... He won't want to be showed up by the others. I'd like to hope Jozy has a similar response, but of the two, I'm confident Dempsey will.


Yes to everything except the one two's. I respectfully disagree with that point. If anything Dempsey likes to put alot of touches on the ball, at least with the Nats.

Which is fine, I mean that's the way he plays, at least with our national Team.

ok so we went with a Diamond, or if not the diamond the 4 1 3 2 right? We like how Bradley controls the game with this right? Question, where do you play Altidore and Dempsey in this configuration? The top forwards? Do you treat Dempsey as a CAM? this displaces Bradley. I don't think it's as straight forward as oh just plug in our guys. This dramatically changes our makeup.

and another thing, we aren't going to have 6 subs. who do we start out with? Do we go with the track meet from the beginning? Where does Yedlin go?

TheTruth
Post #492
Thursday June 11, 2015 3:03pm

Joined Dec 2013
Total Posts: 950
Good to see a lot of Terps fans on here. Personally, I don't really follow them at all. Moved away 15 years ago. But really the last straw was moving to the Big 10. Just can't get into it anymore.

Anyway, you guys are on crack comparing Bradley to Sarunas. I loved Sarunas, but that's quite an insult to Bradley. Sarunas was awfully far away from being an NBA all star.

Rey Regicide
Post #493
Thursday June 11, 2015 3:07pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 2,001
Bradley was noone's All Roma team let alone Seria A team.

TheTruth
Post #494
Thursday June 11, 2015 3:09pm

Joined Dec 2013
Total Posts: 950
Original post from skangles

Can we call this the best week in US soccer history?

1) MNT wins over the Netherlands and Germany on their turf

2) U-23s win third place in Toulon

3) U-20s beat Colombia to reach the quarterfinals

4) WNT get past a tricky Australian side in the WWC

5) DaMarcus Beasley comes out of retirement and makes the provisional Gold Cup roster

6) DOJ takes down FIFA leading to Blatter's resignation (not US soccer I know but Gulati had been outspoken against Blatter so I am counting it).

Only blemish on the week is the Ukraine loss which is water under the bridge now having beaten Colombia.


No. Making quarterfinals of WC is much better. Great week, no doubt, but everyone needs to keep their peckers in their pants. Even keel. Youth tournaments & Friendlies. I'm not going to say they don't mean anything, but they don't mean a lot. Yes, beating Holland in Holland & Germany in Germany in 1 week makes the last week a great week.

I'd say the shot heard round the world was a better week.

But, hey, I know hyperbole is half the point of making a post here. . .

Rey Regicide
Post #495
Thursday June 11, 2015 3:16pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 2,001
Could it be

that maybe

we were talking bout various different groups for the US and the status of our teams across our federation

being greater than one teams run in a WC

perhaps?

I mean fan is diminutive for fanatic which means someone who isn't reasonable about a particular thing one is devoted to. Don't hold out too much hope for us, lol.

But then again were you implying Bradley was an all star in the Serie A?

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