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MSantoine
Post #1
Thursday April 16, 2015 2:12pm

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Im one of the first to say how pointless friendlies are. I could care less that when we bring in 5 reserves we give up 1-2 goals and "blow" a lead. Who cares. However these June friendlies will be huge for USA. Netherlands and Germany. Two top nations and great measuring sticks. The last camp before the Gold Cup. Most leagues will have just ended. I think this will be the first camp that who he brings in will be very telling. Players have two months to show they belong in the A team

rainORshine
Post #2
Thursday April 16, 2015 6:09pm

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ill go one further - and say these games are more interesting than gold cup

as far as CONCACAF US has been there done that. the expectation is to win gold cups and finish top of WC qualifying

doing those things proves nothing this point. frankly i am more interested in friendlies v top 15 teams than games v mexico and costa rica. and beyond those 2 in meaning competition, games in CONCACAF are nothing more than glorified training sessions

navi8132
New York
Post #3
Thursday April 16, 2015 9:46pm

Joined Jul 2012
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That's an unfair way to look at the Gold Cup.

TheTruth
Post #4
Friday April 17, 2015 1:05am

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It's hardware. It counts. Yes, if we were in UEFA we'd qualify for the WC ~50% of the time, but we're in CONCACAF. All we can do is win it. It's not our fault that we're 90 miles from Cuba.

Dave
Post #5
Friday April 17, 2015 4:45am

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The June friendlies will basically be a look at who JK believes to be the top 26-30 players in the USMNT pool, with the possible exception of a player or 3 competing with the U-20/23 Teams. The friendlies will be used to build Chemistry and select the best 23 players for this summers GC.
Will also, potentially, indicate who of the older players (Rimando, Beckerman, Jones, Dempsey, Cameron, Wondo, etc...) may be moved closer toward international retirement.
After this Gold Cup JK will be basically structuring the team towards the Super Copa in 2016. Which in turn is preping for the 2017 Confed Cup, than onto the WC.
Stepping Stones that will gradually prepare the team & players to perform in the way JK is envisioning the USMNT for years to come. Each tournament is a steady increase in competition and prestige.

MSantoine
Post #6
Friday April 17, 2015 11:14am

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Original post from Dave

The June friendlies will basically be a look at who JK believes to be the top 26-30 players in the USMNT pool, with the possible exception of a player or 3 competing with the U-20/23 Teams. The friendlies will be used to build Chemistry and select the best 23 players for this summers GC.
Will also, potentially, indicate who of the older players (Rimando, Beckerman, Jones, Dempsey, Cameron, Wondo, etc...) may be moved closer toward international retirement.
After this Gold Cup JK will be basically structuring the team towards the Super Copa in 2016. Which in turn is preping for the 2017 Confed Cup, than onto the WC.
Stepping Stones that will gradually prepare the team & players to perform in the way JK is envisioning the USMNT for years to come. Each tournament is a steady increase in competition and prestige.


That statement is what Im most looking forward too. Does he start the process of moving on from "his" guys? Which ones does he keep around? Does he think those ones will be around in 3 years? Huge questions and very telling about how this cycle will shape up.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #7
Tuesday May 26, 2015 3:44pm

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Here is Germany's 20 man squad:

GK: Weidenfeller, Zieler

Defense: Boateng, Durm, Hector, Hummels, Mustafi, Rudy, Rudiger

Midfielders/Attackers: Gotze, Bellarabi, Gundogan, Herrman, Ozil, Khedira, Kramer, Schweinsteiger, Schurrle, Podolski, Kruse

Missing: Neuer, Muller, Kroos, Reus

Still a very strong German side.

MSantoine
Post #8
Tuesday May 26, 2015 4:08pm

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Original post from 2tone

Here is Germany's 20 man squad:

GK: Weidenfeller, Zieler

Defense: Boateng, Durm, Hector, Hummels, Mustafi, Rudy, Rudiger

Midfielders/Attackers: Gotze, Bellarabi, Gundogan, Herrman, Ozil, Khedira, Kramer, Schweinsteiger, Schurrle, Podolski, Kruse

Missing: Neuer, Muller, Kroos, Reus

Still a very strong German side.


With their only Euro Qualifier vs Gibraltar they are giving some of there veterans a rest as they could win with their U20 squad.

Still any side that has Boateng, Hummes, Ozil, Schweiny, Schurrle, Podolski can be dangerous. There goalkeepers are weak so if we get any offense maybe we can score a goal or two to make the score respectable.

stone88
Post #9
Tuesday May 26, 2015 4:12pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 1,517
Original post from 2tone

Here is Germany's 20 man squad:

GK: Weidenfeller, Zieler

Defense: Boateng, Durm, Hector, Hummels, Mustafi, Rudy, Rudiger

Midfielders/Attackers: Gotze, Bellarabi, Gundogan, Herrman, Ozil, Khedira, Kramer, Schweinsteiger, Schurrle, Podolski, Kruse

Missing: Neuer, Muller, Kroos, Reus

Still a very strong German side.




Being serious though, we gonna lose this one.

snipes87
Cleveland, Ohio
Post #10
Tuesday May 26, 2015 6:34pm

Joined Jul 2013
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Original post from MSantoine

There goalkeepers are weak so if we get any offense maybe we can score a goal or two to make the score respectable.


That was a joke right?
If you don't love it, leave it, USA #1
Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #11
Tuesday May 26, 2015 7:16pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 890
Original post from rainORshine

ill go one further - and say these games are more interesting than gold cup

as far as CONCACAF US has been there done that. the expectation is to win gold cups and finish top of WC qualifying

doing those things proves nothing this point. frankly i am more interested in friendlies v top 15 teams than games v mexico and costa rica. and beyond those 2 in meaning competition, games in CONCACAF are nothing more than glorified training sessions


I find it interesting that after good showings at the last several World Cups Concacaf still gets no respect. You are wrong Rain, all competitive games are important.

admsghs27
Post #12
Tuesday May 26, 2015 8:50pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 6,060
USA 1 Germany 1. USA 3 Holland 2. The dutch era is at its end. We should hold our own vs Germany their missing pretty much their big 3.

rainORshine
Post #13
Tuesday May 26, 2015 9:14pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 2,097
Original post from Kamphgruppe

I find it interesting that after good showings at the last several World Cups Concacaf still gets no respect. You are wrong Rain, all competitive games are important.


well "important" is a relative term. ill stick with my assessment

first 4 games of GC are useless as far as serious player evaluation is concerned. anyone who plays in those games will likely look decent and people falsely assume that means that player is a good option - based on good showings v inferior opponents.

this year i expect mexico and CR will bring full squads so semis and final will be a decent gauge.

but im still somewhat more interested in road friendlies v germany and holland - those kind of teams can sometimes take foot off pedal for road friendlies but they wont want to get beat at home

chillguy1992
Post #14
Monday June 1, 2015 12:08am

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 1,118
June Roster

Goalkeepers:

Brad Guzan (Aston Villa), Nick Rimando (Real Salt Lake), William Yarbrough (Club Leon)

Defenders:

Ventura Alvarado (Club America), John Brooks (Hertha Berlin), Timmy Chandler (Eintracht Frankfurt), Brad Evans (Seattle Sounders FC), Michael Orozco (Puebla), Brek Shea (Orlando City SC), DeAndre Yedlin (Tottenham Hotspur)

Midfielders:

Kyle Beckerman (Real Salt Lake), Michael Bradley (Toronto FC), Mix Diskerud (New York City FC), Miguel Ibarra (Minnesota United FC), Fabian Johnson (Borussia Monchengladbach), Jermaine Jones (New England Revolution), Alfredo Morales (Ingolstadt), Danny Williams (Reading)

Forwards:

Juan Agudelo (New England Revolution), Aron Johannsson (AZ Alkmaar), Bobby Wood (1860 Munich), Gyasi Zardes (LA Galaxy)

Evans and Ibarra only real suprises. It looks like jones is back in midifeld. Diskerud still being called up is surprising but it looks like klinsmann going with consistency for these friendlies.

coverby
Post #15
Monday June 1, 2015 12:09am

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 501
I saw Cameron and Garza are out with injuries

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