Post #1
Thursday April 9, 2015 12:42pm

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Cosmos COO Erik Stover talks promotion/relegation, D-I status and NYCFC


Great read imo.
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Post #2
Friday April 10, 2015 3:41am

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Thanks for posting. The thought of an MLS 1 / MLS 2 with promotion and relegation makes me giddy. I don't need a true multi-layered pyramid. I'd be fine with MLS controlling everything in a structured manner.

It would kill off NASL which is fine. If they really went forward with this I'd see teams like the Scorpions, Rowdies and Indy Eleven pushing to join MLS 2 anyway. The Cosmos would be the odd ones out.

There are enough cities that want a team that having 2 divisions could be amazing.

I do agree with Stover that the MLS owners aren't going to support it as they don't want to lose out on their investment.

Post #3
Friday April 10, 2015 4:11am

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I know I'm in a pipe dream but I'm just envisioning how this could work and the scenario I like the most is the Scottish system whereby the bottom team in the SPL goes down and the top team in the SCL goes up. Everything else is a staggered playoff with the fourth placed SCL team playing the third placed SCL team in a home-and-home. The winner then takes on the second placed SCL team in two legs and the winner of that plays the second worst SPL team.

For MLS owners that invested a lot there would only be one team guaranteed to go down with a second having to fight for its life which seems far more sensible than having three teams go down each season no matter what.

The difference with the Scottish league is that its a single table. If the MLS wanted to maintain conferences they could have the worst team in the East play the worst team in the West in a two leg series with the loser going down and the winner then having to fight another series with the MLS 2 side that made it through their playoff gauntlet.

I'd honestly rather see these promotion/relegation playoffs than see six teams from each conference make the playoffs. That's a joke. With additional playoffs I'd like to see the number of seeds in the playoffs at the top reduced.

Post #4
Friday April 10, 2015 6:01am

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Yeah I have always envisioned pro/rel here as: MLS creating MLS 1 and MLS 2. Where theses teams move up and down.

NASL seems to want to do their own thing, so IMO let them.

Post #5
Friday April 10, 2015 11:47am

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Only way pro/rel works is if they get rid of the salary cap. Cant have a salary cap and pro/rel.

You also would need a lot more viable cities, and more closely grouped together so that if a team goes down you dont risk losing that whole areas fan base. Americans arent used to pro/rel, I dont know how many could get behind a team pushing to make it to MLS 1.

Post #6
Friday April 10, 2015 1:04pm

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I think American soccer fans are more intelligent than is typically credited and I don't think there are really any MLS fans that live in a bubble whereby they're unfamiliar with the European setup.

We were told that Americans wouldn't accept a game ending in a tie in the mid 90s and hence all kinds of stupid modifications were made like a regular season shootout to Americanize the Sport for US tastes and preferences. And yet here we are having scrapped all that nonsense in order to play the same version of the game as the rest of the world and MLS has never been more popular.

I think most criticism would come from people who are not soccer fans anyway and I can't be bothered worrying about comments from folks that also say "soccer is a girl's sport."

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