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Dave
Post #76
Saturday August 6, 2016 3:47pm

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Original post from Know Nothing

I am. No word has come out that he has put in for a switch so I assume he is content as well.

Both situations are similar with regards to the England and US MNT's.

There are a few good CD's in the England setup he would be in competition with to make the full national team while the only real competition he has with the US is Miazga. Looking at it that way the US offers the path of least resistance.

Add to that he has played a bit as a holding midfielder at Spurs and he would have less competition there with us as well.


Actually there are a fair number of good CB options coming up within the US pool. Most are young developing players, but in a couple years these players could make up a very impressive selection of center backs.
Left Center Back:
Brooks (23), Besler (31), CCV (18), EPB (19)
Right Center Back:
Cameron (31), Gonzalez (27), Birnbaum (25), Alvarado (24), Miazga (21),

Our options at CDM/CM for the future is also full of tantalizing potential options....
Kitchen (24), Stanko (23), Canouse (21), Arce (19)
Nagbe (26), Hyndman (20), Zelalem (19), Senora (20), De La Torre (18)

cleancutimage
Post #77
Monday September 26, 2016 6:17pm

Joined Oct 2013
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Nothing that we already did not know but England has him on their radar.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/art...

Moral of the story: Cap-tie him ASAP Klinsmann!!!!

dunlopp9987
Post #78
Monday September 26, 2016 6:28pm

Joined Mar 2013
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Original post from cleancutimage

Nothing that we already did not know but England has him on their radar.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/art...

Moral of the story: Cap-tie him ASAP Klinsmann!!!!


I agree, he needs to be cap tied. However, the first two games where he is eligible might not be games where we can just throw a guy on simply so he's cap tied. I mean, if we're beating Mexico/CR by two or more goals with 5 minutes left, sure, throw him on. But I have a feeling that's not going to be the case.
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cleancutimage
Post #79
Monday September 26, 2016 6:35pm

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Original post from dunlopp9987

I agree, he needs to be cap tied. However, the first two games where he is eligible might not be games where we can just throw a guy on simply so he's cap tied. I mean, if we're beating Mexico/CR by two or more goals with 5 minutes left, sure, throw him on. But I have a feeling that's not going to be the case.


Now, we kind of see the downfall of finishing first in our group right? Hindsight is 20/20 but if I was Klinsmann I would try to make it happen by any means necessary over those two games. It would most likely be during the Costa Rica match.

Klinsmann should definitely call him in for the October friendlies if nothing else.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #80
Monday September 26, 2016 10:29pm

Joined Jul 2012
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Nope. I don't agree. If he wants to play for England then so be it. Tired of the cap tie him now crowd.

hamsamwich
Post #81
Monday September 26, 2016 11:30pm

Joined Oct 2013
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I don't know about doing that vs Mexico or Costa Rica so early in the cycle, unless there are a lot of injuries.

However, CCV has done nothing to set himself off of his trajectory. He played well with Miazga for the u20s and appears to be progressing at a big club. Julian Green, Lynden Gooch and CCV are basically all in the same boat. What would make me want to see him on the field is his talent, not some fear that England will come calling. If he's better than Omar Gonzalez and Michael Orozco (which I think he is), he should be a part of the team. Alvarado got to play in the Gold Cup for a similar reason. For me, right now the CB depth sort of looks like this:

LCB: Brooks, Besler, Birnbaum, CCV
RCB: Cameron, Gonzalez, Orozco, Miazga

I'm probably missing somebody, but looking ahead to October, it's possible that both Brooks (injury) and Besler are out. Yes, Birnbaum would start probably, but this jumps CCV up the pecking order. I for one would love to see him playing for USA next month if only to gauge his progress just like the other youngsters that are breaking in.

Dave
Post #82
Monday September 26, 2016 11:48pm

Joined Jul 2014
Total Posts: 690
Original post from 2tone

Nope. I don't agree. If he wants to play for England then so be it. Tired of the cap tie him now crowd.


I'm not one of the "cap tie" contingent. I much prefer to award players with call-ups and/or international minutes based on their ability and their performances for their clubs. That being said, if we reach a point during the Hex when we're in a position to give young players minutes I think we should give them the experience.
Case in point if we are in a position similar to the game against St. Vincent where we gave minutes to players like Miazga, Nagbe, & Stanko, I wouldn't mind seeing how CCV would perform with the Sr. USMNT.
These types of free minutes are likely to be difficult to come by during the Hex...but there is the possibility in the home matches against Panama and T&T.

goods
Post #83
Tuesday September 27, 2016 12:49am

Joined Mar 2014
Total Posts: 311
The only guy I am on the cap him now is CCV. However, if he chooses England I am not sure it is a huge loss, like it was when Subotic left. EPB has by all accounts played very well in Portugal, and will slide in nicely. But to have the depth of Brooks, CCV, and EPB at LCB is quite intriguing

Dave
Post #84
Tuesday September 27, 2016 3:33am

Joined Jul 2014
Total Posts: 690
@goods - as much as I like EPB his time was mostly spent with his clubs "B" team. Add to that the fact that he broke his foot and it is likely that his progression towards the upper tier of CB options will be delayed at bit. I'm guessing we won't see EPB until sometime after the 2018 WC.

But I agree that our CB options after 2018 are looking very good....
Brooks, CCV, EPB, Alvarado, Parker
Miazga, Birnbaum, Alvarado, Glad

Jzaval01
Post #85
Tuesday September 27, 2016 4:27am

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 3,174
Im confident that he has enjoyed being in the US system and as long as JK is giving him those "calls" that lynden gooch has gotten then he'll be an full US senior player

snipes87
Cleveland, Ohio
Post #86
Tuesday September 27, 2016 4:38am

Joined Jul 2013
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I thought it was believed CCV was waiting for an England call up and that's his preference? Didn't someone say that a couple months ago on here?
If you don't love it, leave it, USA #1
Dave
Post #87
Tuesday September 27, 2016 5:21am

Joined Jul 2014
Total Posts: 690
Original post from snipes87

I thought it was believed CCV was waiting for an England call up and that's his preference? Didn't someone say that a couple months ago on here?


There was someone spouting this rumor a while back when a commentator said something to that effect back around the Sept. qualifiers. However, there was nothing from Vickers even remotely supporting the statement.
CCV has only ever been involved in the US youth teams. As long as JK and/or the USSF continues to show interest in him I can't see him jumping ship to England. Especially since he'd need to file his 1 time switch to play for them.

goods
Post #88
Tuesday September 27, 2016 3:19pm

Joined Mar 2014
Total Posts: 311
Taylor Twellerman talked about it. He said that was why he was not at the September qualifiers.

Jzaval01
Post #89
Wednesday September 28, 2016 3:18pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 3,174
highly doubt it. I mean like gooch was breaking into sunderland, CCV is trying to be in Pochettinos plans so my guess is he doesnt want to disrupt that flow with him being the 3rd CB during that time. Im hell of sure JK has given him phone calls to let him know the interest.
Also daily mail is a joke
http://www.starsandstripesfc.com/2016/9/22/13...

like the article states from a few weeks he Jurgen was supposedly meeting for the english national job lol

kernn63
Post #90
Wednesday September 28, 2016 9:23pm

Joined Feb 2013
Total Posts: 208
A source close to CCV says he's all USA according to Grant Wahl. Reporting is as of today.

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