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skangles
DC
Post #16
Wednesday February 4, 2015 8:02pm

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This is a great read

http://americansoccernow.com/articles/mls-sin...

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #17
Wednesday February 4, 2015 9:52pm

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That was a great article, and particularly insightful. Really wish we were getting like a play-by-play on the negotiations but I can understand why the general public shouldn't be made aware of every piece of back-and-forth between the two sides.

skangles
DC
Post #18
Saturday February 7, 2015 2:16am

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An angle I didn't think about until now...

Teams are practicing and playing friendlies under the assumption that the CBA will be resolved by opening day on March 6. That means DC United and Montreal should have no problem fielding their best squads for the Feb 24-26 and March 3-4 Quarterfinals but should either or both advance Leg 1 of the Semifinals March 17-19.

In the event that there is a strike/lockout would DC and/or Montreal still be able to field a side in the CCL? It's not a MLS game but they are MLS teams. I certainly hope we don't find ourselves in a situation whereby there is a Semifinal forfeit.

skangles
DC
Post #19
Saturday February 7, 2015 2:22am

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Another twist. If DC United and the Impact both win they would face each other in the Semifinals.

If they are unable to play their Semifinal legs does the other Semifinal series become the final?

skangles
DC
Post #20
Friday February 13, 2015 12:34am

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Once again ASN with excellent commentary.

http://americansoccernow.com/articles/mls-cou...

skangles
DC
Post #21
Monday March 2, 2015 11:23pm

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I get that the owners dont want free agency because it is financially better for them not to have it and that they believe that they hold the leverage because a work stoppage hurts the players more than it hurts them.

With that said there are some ridiculous arguments floating around the information super highway.
So the owners are concerned about bidding against themselves and creating salary inflation which could jeopardize the league despite a hard salary cap.

Let's role play and say Player A is on $120k a year, is coming off a stellar season AND is out of contract. Under a free agency solution in this scenario he finds a new MLS team that decides he could be an integral part of their success and WILLINGLY decides to offer a contract of say $200k per year. The argument is that this $80k delta jeopardizes the financial stability of the league whilst simultaneously you have owners willy nilly offering DPs whatever they feel like ($4-7m). It's such a ridiculous argument. In a salary cap system you'll only get offered a salary for your perceived value relative to other options at your position and other options at the other positions on your team. Whilst Player A gets a significant pay raise Player B might be underperforming on a $180k salary and may only receive a $130k offer.

Yes, DPs create fan excitement and sell tickets but if the league fails financially it will be because of the Toronto and NYCFC free spending approach and not because Perry Kitchen could earn an extra $150k in free agency.

EKneezy
Atlanta
Post #22
Monday March 2, 2015 11:58pm

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Worst part of collective bargaining: Owners who play the rich poor game, acting like they're getting the short end of the stick

skangles
DC
Post #23
Wednesday March 4, 2015 6:08am

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We may have a deal soon. 28 year olds with 8+ years of MLS experience could select their team but they could only get a nominal pay increase.

blaise213
Post #24
Wednesday March 4, 2015 7:21am

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I'll bet anything the hold ups came from all the cheap owners (SJ, NE, COL, FC Dallas, RSL)

MSantoine
Post #25
Wednesday March 4, 2015 1:11pm

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Original post from skangles

We may have a deal soon. 28 year olds with 8+ years of MLS experience could select their team but they could only get a nominal pay increase.


I saw something about this earlier. They compared it to university of california college professors. In the California board of education a professor can go from UC Davis to UC Irvine but only get a certain pay increase (like 110-125%). His outgoing college has the chance to equal the offer, and then the professor can chose to stay at the new higher rate or leave for the same rate. It prevents colleges (in our case MLS owners) from being stupid and over paying to make media headlines as it would just consistently drive up player salaries until the owners get in trouble (baseball is a perfect example of players getting over paid because previous players got overpaid).

An example would be like when Fagundez's contract runs out he could talk to other teams and see if any of them would offer him the max salary increase. Then the Revs would have the option to match it. Pretty much creates restriced free agency but with a salary increase cap. I think its a good compromise as a stepping stone to true free agency if the next tv deal is big

skangles
DC
Post #26
Thursday March 5, 2015 3:02am

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AGREEMENT!

stone88
Post #27
Thursday March 5, 2015 3:03am

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http://www.si.com/planet-futbol/2015/03/04/ml...
Looks like it's done. Best thing is that the league's minimum salary nearly doubled.

skangles
DC
Post #28
Thursday March 5, 2015 3:05am

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No word on a fourth DP. The salary cap will increase but it hasn't leaked yet how much it will be.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #29
Thursday March 5, 2015 3:09am

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My guess is the Salary Cap will be around 5 or 6 million.

I made a prediction that the minimum salary would raise to around 60k.

stone88
Post #30
Thursday March 5, 2015 3:17am

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Yeh 60k is much better. Not all that great for a 1st division sports league, but 36k is just embarrassing!! Now let just hope the the salary cap is closer to 6 million, the 4th DP ain't happenin.

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