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dolcem
Post #1
Thursday January 8, 2015 7:20pm

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WTF

I don't think Petke is a particularly good coach but he is a club icon and the most successful coach they've had in their history. It'd be one thing if they wanted to replace him with a big name from abroad, but Jesse Marsch? He is even less experienced and less competent than Petke. Considering the fact that Henry left and Cahill might too and there won't be much in terms of off-season acquisitions, next season will be much worse for the Red Bulls. If Petke wasn't their guy, why not stick with him in 2015 and then make him a scapegoat for the team's failings? Marsch probably wasn't going anywhere and I'm sure they'd have comparable options. The NJRB management will be in the awkward position next offseason of having to either keep a manager who performed worse than his predecessor or make yet another change. Makes no sense.
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Post #2
Thursday January 8, 2015 8:38pm

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Original post from dolcem

WTF

I don't think Petke is a particularly good coach but he is a club icon and the most successful coach they've had in their history. It'd be one thing if they wanted to replace him with a big name from abroad, but Jesse Marsch? He is even less experienced and less competent than Petke. Considering the fact that Henry left and Cahill might too and there won't be much in terms of off-season acquisitions, next season will be much worse for the Red Bulls. If Petke wasn't their guy, why not stick with him in 2015 and then make him a scapegoat for the team's failings? Marsch probably wasn't going anywhere and I'm sure they'd have comparable options. The NJRB management will be in the awkward position next offseason of having to either keep a manager who performed worse than his predecessor or make yet another change. Makes no sense.


Reeks of a big signing on the way...Petke didn't do amazing but didn't do poorly enough to get the sack...unless there's some backroom or locker room drama that the general public isn't privy to, this one is a bit of a headscratcher.

Know Nothing
Post #3
Thursday January 8, 2015 8:52pm

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Less competent? Remains to be seen...he did a good job with Montreal their first season, his one season in charge. Their experience is comparable.

I wonder if you are upset about his DC United roots or the fact he played under both Arena and Bradley?

mmee
Culver City, CA
Post #4
Thursday January 8, 2015 9:29pm

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I fully enjoy watching the Energy Drinks flail as an organization. I think if I was local I would have become a fan at league birth, and bailed for good quite a while ago.

chris_thebassplayer
San Jose
Post #5
Friday January 9, 2015 8:57am

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Curtis seems like an egotistical tool, but he's just the hatchet man for the clueless Euro brass. How in the world can they fire Petke. He was the perfect coach for the RBs. He was a great motivating leader...part of the fabric of that team. He is a very solid coach. I'm probably in the minority, but I think Petke would have taken the team higher post Henry if given the opportunity to select his own DPs.

Marsch did a good job at Montreal, but that freaking lightweight Curtis is crowing about their shared vision, their epiphany, like they're going to reinvent the sport...he comes across as a naive clown.

RB management will hold a meeting with season ticket holders....I'd love to be a fly on the wall. I hope they skewer Curtis and all the other dumb asses in that organization.

mmee
Culver City, CA
Post #6
Friday January 9, 2015 11:28am

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Petke got done dirty, no doubt.

I'm reminded of the Galaxy firing their coach while in first place. I was so disgusted I stopped following the team for a few years.

dolcem
Post #7
Friday January 9, 2015 6:42pm

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Original post from Know Nothing

Less competent? Remains to be seen...he did a good job with Montreal their first season, his one season in charge. Their experience is comparable.

I wonder if you are upset about his DC United roots or the fact he played under both Arena and Bradley?


I'm not partial to any of these teams or people. Marsch finished lower than Petke's teams have and this is his first real offseason (less experienced). Sure, Marsch just might turn out to be the better manager, but we haven't seen evidence yet, and why fire Petke? It's one thing if they wanted to go a different direction and, say, hire a foreign coach, but why fire a highly successful, young manager who bleeds Red Bull for one who is a bigger question mark?

Seems like Curtis is just being a dick. He knows he's going to be in charge for only a year and wants to exercise as much power as he can while he has it.
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skangles
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Post #8
Wednesday October 28, 2015 12:25am

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Petke interviewed for the Fire. What do you think Ham?

chillguy1992
Post #9
Wednesday October 28, 2015 8:34pm

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Thats a good interview Petke is a good coach and the fire would be lucky to have him. Would be a step up over yallop no doubt about it.

chris_thebassplayer
San Jose
Post #10
Thursday October 29, 2015 2:06am

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The Fire picking up Petke would be a solid move.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #11
Thursday October 29, 2015 2:23am

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Original post from dolcem

I'm not partial to any of these teams or people. Marsch finished lower than Petke's teams have and this is his first real offseason (less experienced). Sure, Marsch just might turn out to be the better manager, but we haven't seen evidence yet, and why fire Petke? It's one thing if they wanted to go a different direction and, say, hire a foreign coach, but why fire a highly successful, young manager who bleeds Red Bull for one who is a bigger question mark?

Seems like Curtis is just being a dick. He knows he's going to be in charge for only a year and wants to exercise as much power as he can while he has it.


Pretty much eating Crow aren't ya?

hamsamwich
Post #12
Thursday October 29, 2015 10:16am

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I like the idea. What I will say is everyone deserves a second chance, particularly Petke who won the supporters shield a few years ago. I expect a few more candidates.

dolcem
Post #13
Friday October 30, 2015 6:32pm

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Original post from 2tone

Pretty much eating Crow aren't ya?


Like I said previously, Marsch MAY turn out to be the better manager, but one year ago, there was no evidence of that. The dude had one year of experience. No one saw this coming. I don't feel bad about not having predicted this. It's not that Curtis is some genius and knew that Marsch was going to have such a great year, he just got lucky. Moreover, who's to say that Petke wouldn't have done better this year? NYRB is actually better than it was last season. Cahill left because he was no longer a focal point of the team (Petke was benching him by the end of the year). MLS teams don't have room for slow, technically gifted geniuses like Henry (and to a much lesser extent, Cahill). They're better off with some young guy who isn't nearly as good but can run hard all game long. Kljestan was a good addition as well because McCarty is the perfect compliment to him. Curtis' decision last year didn't make sense no matter how you spin it no matter what happened this year. I mean, I could be wrong, maybe he is a genius after all and just knew that Marsch was going to make a great MLS manager, but I doubt it.
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2tone
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Post #14
Friday October 30, 2015 6:35pm

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Original post from dolcem

Like I said previously, Marsch MAY turn out to be the better manager, but one year ago, there was no evidence of that. The dude had one year of experience. No one saw this coming. I don't feel bad about not having predicted this. It's not that Curtis is some genius and knew that Marsch was going to have such a great year, he just got lucky. Moreover, who's to say that Petke wouldn't have done better this year? NYRB is actually better than it was last season. Cahill left because he was no longer a focal point of the team (Petke was benching him by the end of the year). MLS teams don't have room for slow, technically gifted geniuses like Henry (and to a much lesser extent, Cahill). They're better off with some young guy who isn't nearly as good but can run hard all game long. Kljestan was a good addition as well because McCarty is the perfect compliment to him. Curtis' decision last year didn't make sense no matter how you spin it no matter what happened this year. I mean, I could be wrong, maybe he is a genius after all and just knew that Marsch was going to make a great MLS manager, but I doubt it.


It's ok to eat crow and admit it when you are wrong. You were wrong that's all.

dolcem
Post #15
Friday October 30, 2015 6:47pm

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Original post from 2tone

It's ok to eat crow and admit it when you are wrong. You were wrong that's all.


I know, I'll try and do better next time.
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