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Post #16
Tuesday December 30, 2014 8:08pm

Joined May 2013
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I think its best to reserve the hype just a bit. GZ has the hype from the European fans of Arsenal for what thats worth since they seen world class talent BUT same was with Green and the Bayern fans.

Rey Regicide
Post #17
Tuesday December 30, 2014 8:38pm

Joined Sep 2013
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Bojan was an awesome prospect for Barca that didn't pan out the way they expected to, overhyped, I would so take Bojan as a player for the USMNT.

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Post #18
Tuesday December 30, 2014 9:03pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 6,060
Original post from Rey Regicide

Bojan was an awesome prospect for Barca that didn't pan out the way they expected to, overhyped, I would so take Bojan as a player for the USMNT.

True if Bojan was somehow able to play for USA he would easily be our best player right now. And for Spain he is just another player nothing really special. It is very difficult for great prospects to have a fruitful long international career. Who knows Zalalem, and green might never end up playing more than 20 games for the MNT in their career is very hard to predict. I for one don't see them as the type that can carry us to a Semis or even a WC Final in the future. You can tell in a Young player if their gonna be a star in the future if you look at Highlights from Zlatan, Messi, CR7, Aguero, Muller, Neymar etc when they were 14-18 years old you knew they were gonna be something special, Til this date no American player has been as close as that good around that age the best i have Seen ever from an American Prospect is Freddy Adu the guy was an absolute phenom not even Donovan as close as Freddy at an early age, i honestly believed Adu was gonna win a couple of FIFA world player of the year awards by the time he retired. Hopefully a couple make it soon, but this era is the best ever in terms of youth prospects coming up the more you have the better chance we have at winning a major tournament one day.

dolcem
Post #19
Wednesday December 31, 2014 12:02am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,805
Original post from Know Nothing

I gotta question why all the love for Zelalem? Is it because he made the bench and got some minutes in a meaningless CL match because Arsenal can't keep players healthy.

Don't get me wrong, from what I've seen he is a good player...but one can argue Hyndman and Trapp are equally deserving and getting first team minutes. If you are going on youth exploits, Kyle Scott has been equally impressive.


Think about the players that have come out of the MLS or even Fulham and think about the players that have come out of Arsenal. Arsene Wenger is probably the best in the world at developing young players...it's a no-brainer. Of course this doesn't necessarily mean that Zelalem will turn out but he obviously has a much higher ceiling than the other two. And I'm very excited for anyone getting any first team minutes at a club like Arsenal. It's more impressive than starting for an MLS team.
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Know Nothing
Post #20
Wednesday December 31, 2014 11:58pm

Joined Jan 2013
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Original post from dolcem

Think about the players that have come out of the MLS or even Fulham and think about the players that have come out of Arsenal. Arsene Wenger is probably the best in the world at developing young players...it's a no-brainer. Of course this doesn't necessarily mean that Zelalem will turn out but he obviously has a much higher ceiling than the other two. And I'm very excited for anyone getting any first team minutes at a club like Arsenal. It's more impressive than starting for an MLS team.


I see and understand your point, except for the one about players coming out of Arsenal. I would not say Wenger has been prolific at developing talent, he has just been more willing to give them a chance more often then the other managers of top teams.

Looking at the current Arsenal squad, only Wilshire and Gibbs are true products of their youth set up. Ramsey was bought, Walcott was bought, etc... .As far as academies go, I would say that West Ham and Southampton have a better record then the vaunted Arsene Wenger. Southampton (Bale, Walcott, Lallana) West Ham (Joe Cole, Lampard).

Dave
Post #21
Thursday January 1, 2015 5:10am

Joined Jul 2014
Total Posts: 1,096
Original post from 2tone

With news coming down that Zelalem is now a US citizen and more than likely commiting to the USMNT I am now going to project a 23 man USMNT roster and starting 11:

23 man roster:

GK: Hamid, Howard, Guzan

Defense: Yedlin, Chandler, Garza, Alvarado, Jones, Hedges, Brooks, Besler

CM's: Bradley, Zelalem, Diskerud, Cameron, Morales

Attackers: Morris, Altidore, ArJo, Deuce(last tournament), Nagbe, Green, Rubin

Starting 11:

Morris----Arjo---Nagbe
----Zelalem--Bradley--
------Cam-----
Alvarado--Brooks--Jones--Yedlin
-------Guzan-----

Yes I know some of these players could ultimately be on the Olympic team instead, but right now making the Olympics is not a guarantee.


Not willing to pencil in Zelalem just yet for the 23 let alone the starting 11. Beyond that there are some serious contenders who you've left out of your 23....
Fabian Johnson, Omar Gonzalez, Danny Williams, Hydmann, Gyau will all available for selection. Not sure if Cameron, Morales, Alvarado, Morris, etc... will be able to stake claim to a spot in the 23. Time (an the January Camp) will go a long ways towards telling who will lead the way for the 2015 GC and 2016 Copa America.

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