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skangles
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Post #31
Monday December 29, 2014 11:28pm

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Original post from 2tone

He was moved to RB and was still bad.


And Chandler looked better against Ireland?

skangles
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Post #32
Monday December 29, 2014 11:53pm

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I was thinking it was Ireland that Fabian switched to RB, it was Colombia. Both Fabian and Chandler looked bad against Ireland.

I'd delete my previous post as it doesn't make sense but that functionality doesn't exist.

Know Nothing
Post #33
Tuesday December 30, 2014 12:49am

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Original post from 2tone

It's a competitive tournament, and Dempsey is still the USMNT's best FWD.


He is the best finisher, I would not say he is the best forward. If we do have a forward who is red hot and if someone like Nguyen is playing significantly better than Deuce, he may well leave him out.

dolcem
Post #34
Tuesday December 30, 2014 1:24am

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We had to suffer hundreds of rain's posts about how washed up Jones is and now he thinks he's a great option going forward?

If I had to pick a line-up based on who's best now I'd use the same one as 2tone's but with Torres as one of the CM's. And I'm not sure about Rubin on the right. I haven't seen him play enough to make a good judgement but he seems to be best suited to play in the hole or as a #9 (or maybe even as a #10) but I'm not sure about him as a winger. Maybe he could play on the wing in a 4-3-3 but I don't think so in a 4-5-1, although again I haven't seen him play all that much. In 2tone's terms, I think he could be a RW but not an RAM.

But I think what's more interesting to discuss is what players JK will use for the Gold Cup...maybe he will use it as an opportunity for young/fringe players to prove themselves.
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Jzaval01
Post #35
Tuesday December 30, 2014 2:32am

Joined May 2013
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This is what i think will happen
-Jozy-
-Deuce-
Gyau-Bradley-Cameron-Yedlin/FJ
Garza-Jones-Brooks-Yedlin/FJ

Alot depends on Jozy. If he isnt playing well JK knowing him can easily put Deuce as striker like in the world cup and have Bradley at CAM (He wants bradley at CAM for whatever reason) and have mix at CM
Also depends on what he wants to do with AJ who should be starting soon as he gets in form

hamsamwich
Post #36
Tuesday December 30, 2014 2:42am

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@dolcem- I see Jurgen using this upcoming gold cup as a first test for his Russia 2018 project. There is only a small amount of pressure on the tournament, as the pressure increases with the Olympics, ca 2016, WC qualifying, and the big tournament in Russia. I see Jurgen letting younger players sink or swim in a highly competitive environment.

Jzaval01
Post #37
Tuesday December 30, 2014 2:55am

Joined May 2013
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Original post from hamsamwich

@dolcem- I see Jurgen using this upcoming gold cup as a first test for his Russia 2018 project. There is only a small amount of pressure on the tournament, as the pressure increases with the Olympics, ca 2016, WC qualifying, and the big tournament in Russia. I see Jurgen letting younger players sink or swim in a highly competitive environment.


i think he'll do that for group match but if he wants to prepare well for Russia he will want to guarantee Confed cup 2017.
Pressure doesnt bother JK but if he doesnt win it's going to bring up questions and comparisons to the difference between him and Bob Bradley and well you know how that goes.

tjknowsall
Post #38
Tuesday December 30, 2014 7:18am

Joined May 2013
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my ideal team....

Altidore
Dempsey
?(bale...) Bradley Beckerman fabian
Garza Besler Brooks Yedlin
Guzan

Beckerman plays because i think he could possibly still be around in 4 years. I know he will be hella old, but he is one of those players that was not as good as he could have been because of the american coaches of hte past now that he has klinsy coaching he is peaking later, therefore i think his style of play could keep him around in 3 years... not to start but as of now i think he is still a starter... if not him than throw whoever u want but it needs to be a destroyer if bradley is that cam... id love to see bradley drop as a cdm and lee nguyen have a shot playing in front of him but i dont think we will see that

i dont know who will be starting at lm and i think it will constantly change unless fabian goes over there....

Fraser31
Charleston, South Carolina
Post #39
Tuesday December 30, 2014 8:59am

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 1,408
My make a wish team:

--------Zardes------
Gyau---Deuce--Lee N.--Yedlin
--------Bradley------
(igaf)--Jones--Brooks--Fabian

Subs: Boyd (Zardes), Rubin (Deuce or Lee), Beckerman/Morales if we're leading, Johannsson if we're losing.

My guess:

-----Altidore-----
Bedoya--Deuce---Gyau
---Morales-Bradley---
Same back line.

Subs: Yedlin, Green, and Beckerman

mmee
Culver City, CA
Post #40
Tuesday December 30, 2014 10:07am

Joined Mar 2014
Total Posts: 2,147
I don't know if there's any reason to believe that Zardes would make a good forward in that kind of formation, but I'd love to see anything-but-Altidore, no matter the formation.

Fraser31
Charleston, South Carolina
Post #41
Tuesday December 30, 2014 10:21am

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 1,408
I'm just assuming we won't be seeing Boyd, so that was my next best idea.

Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #42
Tuesday December 30, 2014 8:58pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 907
Original post from tjknowsall

my ideal team....

Altidore
Dempsey
?(bale...) Bradley Beckerman fabian
Garza Besler Brooks Yedlin
Guzan

Beckerman plays because i think he could possibly still be around in 4 years. I know he will be hella old, but he is one of those players that was not as good as he could have been because of the american coaches of hte past now that he has klinsy coaching he is peaking later, therefore i think his style of play could keep him around in 3 years... not to start but as of now i think he is still a starter... if not him than throw whoever u want but it needs to be a destroyer if bradley is that cam... id love to see bradley drop as a cdm and lee nguyen have a shot playing in front of him but i dont think we will see that

i dont know who will be starting at lm and i think it will constantly change unless fabian goes over there....


I think the Gold Cup will probably be Beckerman's last tourney with the USMNT. We may see him in 2016 but we have so much talent coming up that I hope we have someone better by then.

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