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2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #1
Monday December 15, 2014 9:11pm

Joined Jul 2012
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Right now the USMNT is in serious need of wingers/ wide attacking mids, but by 2016 before WC qualifying and Copa America the USMNT may be rolling in options.

Lets take a closer look at the potential player pool:

1. Julian Green: By all accounts and his trajectory he could be a USMNT regular starter by 2016. He still remains one of the most talented youngsters in the USMNT player pool. At 19 he still needs to work on consistency and intensity in games.

2. Joe Gyau: Will he finally become the player we all envisioned he could become when he burst onto the youth national team scene back in 2009? Only time will tell. He is 22 and really needs to start cementing his place in the Bundesliga and Dortmund.

3. Rubio Rubin: For me he is a 9 1/2 not a winger. He could very well be Dempsey's long term replacement for the USMNT.

4. Jordan Morris: His position at the next level is as an wide attacking middie/winger IMO. He has the physical gifts as well as the mental gifts. He can unlock defenses with his passing, and his dribbling. He is known for being ruthless in front of goal. Will he or won't he sign a HG contract with Seattle? The front office of the Sounders are pretty positive that he will be signing an HG contract soon. He could easily be on the Gold Cup team this summer if he plays well for Seattle in MLS leading up to the tournament. The real question will be is what Klinsmann does with him in 2016. Will he be on the Copa America team or will he be on the Olympic team? He could easily become the poster player for the new MLS next.

5. Brek Shea: Can he regain his form? no one can foresee what will happen at Orlando, but coming back and playing well in MLS will further increase his chances.

6. Josh Gatt: What will he be like after the knee injury? Is he injury prone? Can he regain form? And will he be playing in a better league? For me Gatt is the most questionable.

7. Darlington Nagbe: He will have the opportunity to get US citizenship by December, right before that January Camp and the start of WC qualifying. Nagbe has a ton of talent, and while his scoring sorely lacked this past season; he put up his best year in assists. Darlington loves to cut inside, so having him at RW with Yedlin overlapping from RB could cause teams a whole lot of problems. Nagbe for me could really vault the USMNT into elite status. Yes he is 24, and yes he will be 28 at the 2018 WC, but some players only really play in one WC anyway.

8. Kekutah Manneh: We have all seen Manneh ably destroy MLS backlines with ease, but he still lacks consistency from game to game. Supposedly he will be up for US citizenship soon, and he has expressed his desire to play for the Stars and Stripes. For me he will be Lock for the Olympic team in 2016.

9. Romain Gall: A smooth operator, he has pace/ power, good dribbling skills, good vision, and can score goals. If managed right at the Crew this kid could become a new face of MLS. And by managed right, I mean given sufficient amount of minutes for the first team starting in 2015. I really hope to see him have a very good U-20 CONCACAF tournament and U-20 WC.

10. Paul Arriola: I have seen flashes of brilliance from him, but can he break into Tijuana's first team and stay in the first team? I really hope he does.

11. Alfred Koroma: I haven't heard much on him for awhile. His last update was that he was in Brasil playing for Internacionals academy team and reserve team while getting some Minutes with the first team in friendlies. He and Internacional were waiting on some paperwork to get finalized which was holding up the deal from being finalized. Koroma is strong, fast, very clever and can play all positions in the front three attacking positions. The Inter coaching staff were raving about his ability to read the game from multiple attacking positions which included him at striker. He is a sure lock for the Olympic team IMO.

Other notables:

Zach Pfeffer
Shawn and Devante Parker
Junior Flores

hamsamwich
Post #2
Monday December 15, 2014 10:52pm

Joined Oct 2013
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Good list 2tone- my opinion is the guys have to be able to interchange that are behind Jozy (or whoever is up top). Too much of trying to fit in Shea because he can "play on the left"... Unless we are talking about a Robben (and even he switches side to side), to me the LAM, CAM, and RAM should all be able to play those roles.

Mark me down for being impressed by Morris in his brief outing v Ireland, I see what all of you rave about. Joe Gyau is a beast in the making, if he can stay healthy.

mmee
Culver City, CA
Post #3
Tuesday December 16, 2014 12:57am

Joined Mar 2014
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Is LAM/RAM a meaningful term, or is it just a winger running in a slightly different system.

I mean, in a 4-2-3-1, are those guys really so different from wingers?

federov
Post #4
Tuesday December 16, 2014 1:12am

Joined Dec 2014
Total Posts: 97
Original post from hamsamwich

Good list 2tone- my opinion is the guys have to be able to interchange that are behind Jozy (or whoever is up top). Too much of trying to fit in Shea because he can "play on the left"... Unless we are talking about a Robben (and even he switches side to side), to me the LAM, CAM, and RAM should all be able to play those roles.

Mark me down for being impressed by Morris in his brief outing v Ireland, I see what all of you rave about. Joe Gyau is a beast in the making, if he can stay healthy.


+1 concerning Gyau. If he can make it back to Dortmund's first team in the next month or so, I think he should play fulltime on the left or the right wing (preferably left). I rate him higher than Green at this point.

Dave
Post #5
Tuesday December 16, 2014 2:01am

Joined Jul 2014
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mmee -
In the 4-2-3-1 formation the LW(LAM) and RW(RAM) will either pinch inside or draw defenders out wide in order to open up space for the overlapping backs or the late run up the middle during the attack. On the defensive side they are expected to track the opponents OSB to prevent them from overloading the defense.
In a 4-3-3 or 4-3-2-1 they are expected to interchange across the front line. They have fewer defensive responsibilities, but have to maintain possession to allow the midfield & OSB's to enter into the attack.

Dave
Post #6
Tuesday December 16, 2014 2:14am

Joined Jul 2014
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2tone - good list, but IMO Nagbe should be considered higher than either Morris or Shea. Nagbe had a very good scoring rate last season, and this season while unlucky at scoring had a very productive season setting up his teammates.
To me Morris will need to prove himself at least a little at the pro level before I'd rank him above someone who is already a productive pro. Shea will need to prove that he can get his head on straight and get back into form before he can be considered.
Gatt needs to get back to full health and stay healthy for a season before he can be considered.
I have high hopes for Gall and Arriola. Both have the speed and 1 Vs. 1 ability to be real impact players. Over the course of the next 2 years they should have ample chances to prove themselves (U-20 WC, Olympic Qualifications, Olympics, than USMNT). No need to rush either of these guys unless Green, Gyau, and Nagbe have some kind of significant setbacks.

mmee
Culver City, CA
Post #7
Tuesday December 16, 2014 2:29am

Joined Mar 2014
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Thanks Dave,.
I suppose that's different enough to merit a name difference, although a necessary name difference, I'm not sure.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #8
Tuesday December 16, 2014 2:36am

Joined Jul 2012
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LAM/RAM are not outright chalk on your boots wingers. Kind of how Frank Ribery plays.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #9
Tuesday December 16, 2014 3:03am

Joined Jul 2012
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Two more names to add:

Duane Holmes: I don't know what's up with his situation, but I wonder of a move to MLS might be good for him. The kid has a lot of talent. Isn't he back early to Huddersfield Town from that Bury loan? I believe he has made a couple sub appearances for H-Town this season.

Lynden Gooch: Talented, and might be a lot closer to a Sunderland first team spot than previously thought. He impressed Poyet in some pre-season games. My only thought is for some reason Ramos doesn't seem to see him as a wide attacking middie at the U-20 level. He has played him at CAM, CM, and at striker.

skangles
DC
Post #10
Tuesday December 16, 2014 3:38am

Joined Jan 2013
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Are we excluding Bedoya, Fabian and Yedlin because they're already well established in the player pool? All three have recently been used in one of these positions.

Fabian and Yedlin may be the RB/LB combo going forward or one could come off the bench but I wouldn't rule out Juergen moving either player to the midfield. Bedoya isn't that speedy but he does offer solid defensive cover if the outside back goes forward.

Live490
Texas
Post #11
Tuesday December 16, 2014 6:19am

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 1,175
Nagbe and Gyau/Arriola for me.. I rate those three above Green and that's not including Yed, Fabjo,, and Bedoya.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #12
Tuesday December 16, 2014 6:28am

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I see Bedoya's role changing for the USMNT down the road. I like Bedoya as more of an attack minded CM. A position he plays quite a bit for Nantes. Fabian is established, and Yedlins position will be at RB.

I was trying to rank these players. The 1 to 11 is not based on any type of ranking.

jabbajolly
Post #13
Tuesday December 16, 2014 7:23am

Joined Nov 2014
Total Posts: 57
Good original post.

I'm guessing Bedoya will stay out wide, but if he drifts in, that's fine too. The most important thing is to keep him on the field - at the present moment, I'd say Bedoya is the most in-form American player out there (now that the MLS season is done). Hats off to him, his play has been fantastic of late.

Original post from 2tone

I see Bedoya's role changing for the USMNT down the road. I like Bedoya as more of an attack minded CM. A position he plays quite a bit for Nantes. Fabian is established, and Yedlins position will be at RB.

I was trying to rank these players. The 1 to 11 is not based on any type of ranking.


chris_thebassplayer
San Jose
Post #14
Tuesday December 16, 2014 8:00am

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 1,543
My sleeper picks to join the mix.... Pelosi on the left... Pulisic on the right.

2016 probably to soon for Pulisic, but i think he'll be on an accelerated track, especially if they want to use him as an outside mid-creator similar to the role LD had with the nats.

Pelosi started for the reserves last game. He got thirty minutes in the two previous reserve games. He's coming along, getting increasing playing time. Can't say enough about having an actual natural lefty playing the left side.

Both have razor sharp soccer IQs.

admsghs27
Post #15
Tuesday December 16, 2014 8:07am

Joined Nov 2012
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Others to watch stevie rodriguez from xolos, akale from villareal very soon I believe, and Kennedy nunes in Brazil is making waves hope he chooses USA but Brazil is very high on him. And lastly tommy thompson one of my favs to have a big year next season in MLS. Also a bit surprised no one mentioned Zardes he could be a very good winger at the international level Wel have to wait and see.

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