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Post #1
Wednesday October 15, 2014 9:52pm

Joined Jul 2012
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Looks like the grudge match is starting.

Klinsmann and Garber issuing verbal shots fired at each other this week.

Why do I have a feeling that the USMNT is the one that will suffer in this?

hamsamwich
Post #2
Wednesday October 15, 2014 10:17pm

Joined Oct 2013
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Like two warlords shouting at each other from their own castles.

As a current and longtime season ticket holder in MLS (Fire) I will say I agree with Jurgen on this one 100%. I mean it made news Portland has a team entering the reserve league. Good work Galaxy and a few others but we aren't yet at the point where MLS supplies enough quality to finish in the semifinals of the World Cup, the stated goal for Russia. The top European leagues (as tough as this is for me to say as I'm pretty much anti Europe in most other regards) provide the best level of competition and preparation for our players.

Garber is just protecting his brand from PR damage. He's a tool I hope he gets egg on his face. Get him Jurgen.

dunlopp9987
Post #3
Wednesday October 15, 2014 10:24pm

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 2,642
I see both sides of this.

Jurgen: Don't be an idiot. Everyone knows that MLS isn't even close to the level of competition in Europe. Bradley knows that. Dempsey knows that. Don Garber knows that. It accomplishes nothing by publicly degrading the league that supplies a decent number of your players for the national team.

Don: Don't be an idiot. Everyone knows that MLS isn't even close to the level of competition in Europe. Until MLS can show that they can develop (AND KEEP) young talent in the league, as well as pay their players a respectable amount, as well as attract players from around the world when they're in their PRIME and not their TWILIGHT....MLS will continue to take a backseat to the interests of the USMNT.
COYB!!
blaise213
Post #4
Wednesday October 15, 2014 11:20pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,927
It's a simple fix: With the new TV contract, give the teams more money to raise the salary cap and raise the DP level to 4.

Quality goes up

dunlopp9987
Post #5
Wednesday October 15, 2014 11:30pm

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 2,642
Honestly, I think people need to realize that MLS is likely never going to be a top league in the world for one reason: American sports.

I do think MLS could become a more popular league than MLB, NBA, and NHL. That's definitely in the realm of possibility. However, I just have a hard time seeing MLS become a top league in the world when they have to compete with 4 other major sports leagues. We are the only country in the world that has 5 MAJOR sports leagues. Not to mention college basketball and football, golf, NASCAR, etc. It's relatively easy for soccer to be the best sport anywhere else in the world, because it's pretty much all they have in terms of sports leagues. But with the vast American sports landscape, I just have a hard time seeing MLS becoming a top 5-8 league in the world.

I say all this HOPING to be proved wrong. I would love to have a world class league here, not only as an MLS fan, but also because it would be extremely beneficial to the national team.
COYB!!
admsghs27
Post #6
Wednesday October 15, 2014 11:37pm

Joined Nov 2012
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MLS does not have to be the best or even top 3 in the world. Being in the top 6 would be good enough to win FIFA tournaments. Look at Liga mx is a good example not the greatest league out there but most if not all the players that play in the national team are from there. And Mexico historically has been a very good team at the international level and they have won FIFA tournaments, and recently gold. If MLS can become a better league than MX in the coming years we can have players that can easily compete with anyone in the World.

dunlopp9987
Post #7
Wednesday October 15, 2014 11:38pm

Joined Mar 2013
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http://americansoccernow.com/articles/klinsma...

Bravo.
COYB!!
stone88
Post #8
Wednesday October 15, 2014 11:59pm

Joined Aug 2012
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Klinsmann looking for people to blame after these last two disappointing showings.

skangles
DC
Post #9
Thursday October 16, 2014 12:07am

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 5,420
Klinsmann should be having a go at Garber for his ridiculous scheduling. That should be the main issue between US Soccer and the MLS and I find it bizarre that it isn't what they're arguing about.

munns5986
Post #10
Thursday October 16, 2014 12:09am

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 272
I am a huge sports fan in general. My first love has always been American football. Saying that I definitely see a world where soccer over takes the NFL as a main sport in the US. Not necessarily because of something soccer does but because the NFL is killing it self. I also think the NBA is dying down just because it is becoming a sport that not just anyone can be good at. You have to be at least 6'5" or taller. Once I realized I would never be able to play professionally I lost interest. Baseball is an amazing sport but a lot of people find it dull. It is looking like a prime time for a sport that everyone can participate to take over. Soccer in my opinion can be that sport. Hockey is for Canadians and Russians.

dunlopp9987
Post #11
Thursday October 16, 2014 12:22am

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 2,642
Original post from munns5986

I am a huge sports fan in general. My first love has always been American football. Saying that I definitely see a world where soccer over takes the NFL as a main sport in the US. Not necessarily because of something soccer does but because the NFL is killing it self. I also think the NBA is dying down just because it is becoming a sport that not just anyone can be good at. You have to be at least 6'5" or taller. Once I realized I would never be able to play professionally I lost interest. Baseball is an amazing sport but a lot of people find it dull. It is looking like a prime time for a sport that everyone can participate to take over. Soccer in my opinion can be that sport. Hockey is for Canadians and Russians.


Well that's just not true at all. Steve Nash, Rajon Rondo, Derrick Rose, Tony Parker. The list goes on and on.
COYB!!
munns5986
Post #12
Thursday October 16, 2014 12:42am

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 272
Original post from dunlopp9987

Well that's just not true at all. Steve Nash, Rajon Rondo, Derrick Rose, Tony Parker. The list goes on and on.


Other than Derrick Rose you just named guys who have been in the league for awhile. That is also only 1 position on the court that a shorter player can excel. The NFL is the only league I think will die out. I just don't think the NBA is as popular as it use to be as well. Part of what I was thinking there is that if the NFL dies out those potential athletes are not going to the NBA.

Mojofc
Post #13
Thursday October 16, 2014 12:48am

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 966
Love it, it's a discussion that should be had.
Rain, rain, go away Come again another day - USMNT, MUFC
admsghs27
Post #14
Thursday October 16, 2014 12:58am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 6,060
Original post from stone88

Klinsmann looking for people to blame after these last two disappointing showings.


Agree absolutely. Specially since the subpar performance at the WC. Hey like Bshredder said on Twitter USA has looked better with donovan in 40 minutes than they did in the last 3 games heck even longer if you count the wc.

admsghs27
Post #15
Thursday October 16, 2014 1:07am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 6,060
Funny when JK came in as coach he said USA would become a team with more possesion and attack oriented. Instead of experimenting for over 3 years he should come up with a Plan and stick with it. No need to change things often and specially in the last couple days before games. I like how our youth teams are doing really good as of late and hopefully it can transpired to the senior level because most of the players we have now won't do much. I just don't want him to have any veterans after the 2016 copa america, like deuce, Jones, howard, wondo, ect..

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