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skangles
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Post #1
Friday September 12, 2014 2:01am

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Garber signed an extension to stay on as Commissioner through the 2018 season.

Seems like as good of a time as any to discuss how we rate Garber to other sports commissioners.

I think he's done a great job. The MLS has some ridiculous policies under Garber's rule (see the Jeramine Jones, Michael Bradley, Clint Dempsey signings or the allocation process) but the league has grown tremendously under Garber's watch. I think he's been an asset for the league and I'm happy to see him pen the extension.

Roger Goodell has laid a massive turd with the Ray Rice situation. I cannot believe that the NFL is now playing the helpless card because "nobody saw the video". How do they think people become unconscious in a domestic dispute? It's going to be heinous video or no video. Goodell's leadership over the past few months has been an embarrassment and he'll be lucky to get out of this situation with a job.

Adam Silver on the other hand has been knocking it out of the park. He handled the Sterling situation masterfully and took care of Levenson without having the situation blow up. Silver is particularly refreshing giving how frustrating Stern was as a commissioner. Silver is desperate to leave his mark on the NBA and has been rumored to be interested in some ridiculous policies like the NBA lottery cycle where every team would draft at every slot once over a 30 year cycle. I hope his better judgement prevails but I like Silver as NBA commissioner.

Bud Selig is an idiot. I'm a Brewers fan (it's been a tough couple of weeks) and the Selig family nearly ran the organization into the ground. I don't know what we'll get from Manfred but it won't be difficult to top Selig.

I've never heard of Gary Bettman. I had no idea who was the NHL commissioner before a google search.

richieJkulesaNY
Post #2
Friday September 12, 2014 2:22am

Joined Jun 2012
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Interesting story on how Garber was originally hired:

http://www.cigaraficionado.com/webfeatures/sh...

"I was at the NFL owners meeting in Atlanta in 1999," recalls Garber. "Robert Kraft came up to me and said, 'Son, what do you know about soccer?'" Garber confessed that he didn't know much outside of coaching his son. Kraft responded, "We're about to change that," and brought Garber to talk to Hunt. "They mentioned they were thinking of making a change with the existing MLS commissioner," says Garber of the conversation, "and by the end of the weekend, I had been traded. I went from selling American football overseas to selling the real football here in the U.S." The world's game has proved an easier sell for Garber in the United States than American football was for him abroad. "Here, people understand [soccer] and they respect its powerful position as the world's most popular sport," he says. "We look at this country as made up of every other country in the world. Therefore, the ability to translate soccer to people's lives is far easier today than it was a generation ago and certainly easier than it was for the NFL overseas."

MSantoine
Post #3
Friday September 12, 2014 2:34am

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I'd rate them silver garber goodell selig mud toothpaste used gum then bettman.

skangles
DC
Post #4
Friday September 12, 2014 2:46am

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What's the story on Bettman? Like I said, I know absolutely nothing about him but if you rate him lower than used gum AND Bud Selig then he must have been involved in some shenanigans.

chillguy1992
Post #5
Friday September 12, 2014 6:05am

Joined May 2013
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Bettman has been involved in multiple lockouts plus he is directly credited with helping to lower the nhls popularity significantly. Fans dont trust bettman because he has turned the nhl into a league run by a few wealthy owners. To have three lockouts during your tenure is lack of leadership. I actually used to be a nhl fan but the lockout happening twice in less then a decade it really annoyed me and i lost a lot of respect for the league and the enjoyment of watching nhl. Now i am somewhat casual nhl fan at the moment.

EKneezy
Atlanta
Post #6
Friday September 12, 2014 6:20am

Joined May 2013
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Garber has been a great commissioner. Good for him. I think he'll be the man for a few more years then find a successor who will take the MLS to new heights.

Dont know much about Bettman except that hes a sleazebag.

Goodell is incompetent.

Silver has done a great job so far.

Selig needs to retire.

MSantoine
Post #7
Friday September 12, 2014 12:00pm

Joined Nov 2012
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Original post from chillguy1992

Bettman has been involved in multiple lockouts plus he is directly credited with helping to lower the nhls popularity significantly. Fans dont trust bettman because he has turned the nhl into a league run by a few wealthy owners. To have three lockouts during your tenure is lack of leadership. I actually used to be a nhl fan but the lockout happening twice in less then a decade it really annoyed me and i lost a lot of respect for the league and the enjoyment of watching nhl. Now i am somewhat casual nhl fan at the moment.


Exactly. Throw in the fact that he bows down to certain ex players. He practically gave Lemiuex the Penguins, then gave them Crosby. Also up until Brendan Shananhan came in as the disciplinarian, aka suspenision giver, he was horrendous and was super inconsistent.

Bettman was so bad he almost took the NHL completely out of Canada and has seen more teams relocate then any other league. He's also as mentioned been in charge of three work stoppages and seemingly caved at the end each time (unlike Stern who although he had his quirks crushed the NBAPA each time they went to the table)

db707
Post #8
Friday September 12, 2014 12:45pm

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As someone who grew up in the Hartford area during the Whalers era, I am conditioned to hate the Bettman NHL (and also conditioned to hate Brendan Shanahan, but that's another matter). And therefore I agree with MSAntoine's ranking of Bettman. Garber's been a net plus, but he also presided over what has turned into a debacle in Chivas USA, so that has to count against him.

MSantoine
Post #9
Friday September 12, 2014 1:55pm

Joined Nov 2012
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Original post from db707

As someone who grew up in the Hartford area during the Whalers era, I am conditioned to hate the Bettman NHL .


Ouch. As a Bostonian I always liked the Whalers as long as they werent playing the B's in the playoffs. Although I like them a little less when one of my faves (Glen Wesley) defected. I was just getting into sports and Wesley being a young all star on the Bs to have him head down to Hartford was crushing for an eleven year old

db707
Post #10
Friday September 12, 2014 2:06pm

Joined Oct 2013
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I had the same malaise when we traded Ron Francis; Whalers never recovered from that in my opinion and the Penguins won 2 cups on their end. Bruins beat us only 2 of 2 series (felt like we played them more), but those losses were painful. I can't follow the NHL anymore, and I tried adopting other teams (Islanders, Maple Leafs, Senators, Capitals). There were a lot of people to blame for the Whalers moving, including our corrupt governor and his pipe dream to lure the Patriots to Connecticut. But Bettman didn't help matters. Anyway, back to Garber, I think he, unlike Bettman at least understands soccer better than Bettman understands hockey. Hockey is ingrained in the culture of cold weather cities where you can play the game indoors and outdoors, it will never have the same hold in communities outside of Canada and the northern U.S.

USAGunner
West Palm Beach
Post #11
Friday September 12, 2014 2:34pm

Joined Jul 2013
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Garber's next step now that he has gotten the MLS to essentially a stage where it is profitable and can be maintained (soccer only stadiums, TV deal, etc are huge), is to continue to expand at a sustainable rate (don't try to grow to fast, and grow in places were Soccer can be popular). Personally going to the 2nd tier markets like Orlando, that have a lot of people and like to go to professional games, but lack professional teams is a great idea.

The other step he needs to gradually make is turning MLS financial structure, etc to more of the Euro model, which we have taken small steps over the years. We just have to continue making those steps as the league grows.
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MSantoine
Post #12
Friday September 12, 2014 6:21pm

Joined Nov 2012
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The one thing Garber has to do, is figure out how to get TV ratings. TV ratings get tv money. TV money gets the stars. They have to figure something out whether thats different days for games, different start end time, more promoting/advertizing, something

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #13
Friday September 12, 2014 7:50pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,467
Original post from MSantoine

The one thing Garber has to do, is figure out how to get TV ratings. TV ratings get tv money. TV money gets the stars. They have to figure something out whether thats different days for games, different start end time, more promoting/advertizing, something


+1, more ratings = more money = higher cap = higher quality of player = more ratings


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