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tylercocinas
Post #16
Friday August 15, 2014 1:07pm

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Original post from MSantoine

I hope this doesnt happen. The big complaint from MLS teams is that with the US Open, CCL, and International breaks they are already squeezed into a compressed schedule. Since MLS would be guests in this tourney teams would send their reserve squads into these matches. Who wants to watch Seattle's B team or Seatlle U23 squad travel 12 hours to get mopped by Boca Juniors? There's no chance the MLS teams would send their first teamers to those games. So then MLS teams would routinely get beaten since all though MLS starting lineups are getting close to being on par with the rest of this hemisphere the depth is miles behind (thats why we cant win CCL). Then everyone can say how far behind MLS is when the scores are 4-1, 3-0 and they wont care that its Seattle B team, just that its MLS losing "again"


You're making a lot of generalizations here... MLS wouldn't accept an invitation if they weren't suffienctly prepared from a depth standpoint, to compete in Copa Libertadores.

joey11
Post #17
Friday August 15, 2014 7:34pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 160
Original post from MSantoine

I hope this doesnt happen. The big complaint from MLS teams is that with the US Open, CCL, and International breaks they are already squeezed into a compressed schedule. Since MLS would be guests in this tourney teams would send their reserve squads into these matches. Who wants to watch Seattle's B team or Seatlle U23 squad travel 12 hours to get mopped by Boca Juniors? There's no chance the MLS teams would send their first teamers to those games. So then MLS teams would routinely get beaten since all though MLS starting lineups are getting close to being on par with the rest of this hemisphere the depth is miles behind (thats why we cant win CCL). Then everyone can say how far behind MLS is when the scores are 4-1, 3-0 and they wont care that its Seattle B team, just that its MLS losing "again"
You're using the current MLS structure to base your observations. If, and it may be a big if, the structure changes, raising salary cap and so on, I think the depth will increase. True MLS hasn't one CCL yet but it's not like teams haven't come close. We don't get blown out by the Mexican teams. As far as travel, yeah it's a lot but look at teams from England, they have EPL, FA Cup, League Cup, UEFA CL or Europa and travel to Russia and other Eastern European cities to play. It's doable and a good thing for MLS and US soccer in general.

hamsamwich
Post #18
Friday August 15, 2014 8:38pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 510
England to Russia is like flying from New England to Dallas on a weekday. It's a good point that if Tijuana can travel in this, so can mls teams. And what of the tv deals and record franchise fees etc. I know Hauptmann would be for this if it would make money, totally against it if it's an expense. Certain MLS teams (Seattle, KC,LA Galaxy) to name a few would love this. The rest (my chicago fire, New England, Columbus) to name a few may see this as a waste of time until they can be proven otherwise by $$$.

Jzaval01
Post #19
Saturday August 16, 2014 1:06am

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 1,540
Putting everything else aside. If MLS ever wants to grow even more and become a league for latin fans and players its going to have to be involved in Libertadores because at some point MLS growth will reach a point of stagnation. Copa lib is the real Champions League of this part of the world for latins. You want to give another reason to watch MLS to the hispanic population that doesnt watch MLS but does watch Copa Lib and their own Countries League.

blaise213
San Francisco CA
Post #20
Saturday August 16, 2014 1:37am

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 1,347
I hate when everybody talks about catering to the hispanic population when they never buy season tickets, club, or luxury boxes at stadiums.

The only thing they would help would be TV ratings but Im not in the mood to see a million bud light, home depot, and sprint commericals

Jzaval01
Post #21
Saturday August 16, 2014 2:24am

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 1,540
Original post from blaise213

I hate when everybody talks about catering to the hispanic population when they never buy season tickets, club, or luxury boxes at stadiums.

The only thing they would help would be TV ratings but Im not in the mood to see a million bud light, home depot, and sprint commericals


Im Hispanic and I buy season tickets which is how I know why many Hispanics dont watch or pay attention to MLS. Not because its bad but because they have 0 connection to it. Obviously Im talking about Hispanics who arent born here and grew up watching a South American team and know nothing about MLS. Not to mention that we cater to Europeans by bringing big European names like Henry, Defoe and Beckham so why not cater to another huge population.

blaise213
San Francisco CA
Post #22
Saturday August 16, 2014 3:08am

Joined Sep 2012
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The US as a country is modeled after Europe. Hence why we speak "English". EPL is one of the top leagues in the world with more internationally recognized players. Fans in the US will gravitate towards those type of players.

Jzaval01
Post #23
Saturday August 16, 2014 3:53am

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 1,540
Original post from blaise213

The US as a country is modeled after Europe. Hence why we speak "English". EPL is one of the top leagues in the world with more internationally recognized players. Fans in the US will gravitate towards those type of players.


Thats fine, true and best way MLS started but at some point we dont want to just get the old players or at least not only. We want to get the players that come here before and even before their prime. Obviously thats very hard for players from lets say Eredivisie to come to MLS because EPL is closer and frankly better. But we should start buying more South American big talent that has that talent that EPL and all of Europe want because it will make Europe look at our league even more for talent and it will of course help American players get that much more exposure. I say this because the reason the EPL is the destination for all players is also contributed by its popularity because it has all the biggest players from all around the world. Not to mention that if you buy BIG south american names the players nation will cover him every week for every little thing he does which can give MLS more exposure and again be more popular. A good example is Raul Fernandez the Peruvian of FC dallas or even Erick Cubo Torres. The eyeballs will come and will grow MLS that much more by getting even bigger tv contracts not only in the USA but in South America which means more money for the league etc etc. The whole point is to make the League the destination for players with massive talent in this part of the world if we one day want to rival EPL, La Liga etc etc. That my whole point of having Copa Libs. Very ambitious I know but its catering to everyone in the USA at the end of the day especially if MLS becomes more available on TV like it is with this new contract but 100% available everywhere.

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