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Tiger
Post #1
Monday August 11, 2014 3:51am

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http://prosoccertalk.nbcsports.com/2014/08/10...

This could be a good step in the right direction that could also perhaps help jump start and facilitate the development of a comprehensive and fully integrated performance based promotion/relegation system for the top tiers of US soccer.

skangles
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Post #2
Monday August 11, 2014 4:13am

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What does this have to do with promotion / relegation? Sacramento is in a similar situation to Orlando City as a USL team that has a decent fan base and potentially new wealthy owners (Kings ownership) that want to see them in the MLS.

If it happens this would also be similar to the Sounders, Timbers, Whitecaps and Impact whereby an existing Franchise in a lower division would jump up into the MLS.

Tiger
Post #3
Monday August 11, 2014 2:11pm

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@skangles: These precedents fit the definition of promotion, do they not? With the precedent of promotion established, at some point in time, relegation necessarily also enters the equation.

skangles
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Post #4
Monday August 11, 2014 2:41pm

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I don't see it. They aren't being promoted because of performance which underpins a promotion / relegation system. These teams are joining the MLS because the business case makes sense for both the club and the league.

Tiger
Post #5
Monday August 11, 2014 2:53pm

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The business case makes sense because of their on field success.

MLS does not have an official promotion/relegation system, yet.

Unofficially, this, and those you referenced above, are in fact promotions from a lesser league.

admsghs27
Post #6
Monday August 11, 2014 3:35pm

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Promotion/relegation will never happen here. It won't even come into consideration for at least 30 years from now.

recycledhumans
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Post #7
Monday August 11, 2014 8:11pm

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Original post from skangles

I don't see it. They aren't being promoted because of performance which underpins a promotion / relegation system. These teams are joining the MLS because the business case makes sense for both the club and the league.


+1, pro/rel is merit based, MLS expansion is based on market demographics and trying to grow the game within the country.

richieJkulesaNY
Post #8
Monday August 11, 2014 8:32pm

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Original post from recycledhumans

+1, pro/rel is merit based, MLS expansion is based on market demographics and trying to grow the game within the country.


The game is already huge here, MLS is not. The reason you stated above is one of many why MLS is missing roughly 80% of the American market.

recycledhumans
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Post #9
Monday August 11, 2014 10:16pm

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Original post from richieJkulesaNY

The game is already huge here, MLS is not. The reason you stated above is one of many why MLS is missing roughly 80% of the American market.


That's more or less my point, I wasn't necessarily referring to "the game" as soccer in general, just the appeal of the domestic league. Which is why I thought the EPL/MLS friendlies are a good idea. Foreign league fans on this side of the pond that don't even know they have a local team are the ones I'm looking at.

MSantoine
Post #10
Monday August 11, 2014 11:51pm

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The best thing USL and NASL growth can do is become a better alternative to college soccer. If they can start getting 16-19 year old players who aren't near the mls academies that'd give them a couple years to learn to be a professional. Then the USL and NASL teams can sell them to mls. Fans of the USL and NASL teams can start keeping track of the players they've graduated to mls. They get exposure in us open cup matches. It'd be great for all involved.

chillguy1992
Post #11
Tuesday August 12, 2014 5:45am

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Original post from MSantoine

The best thing USL and NASL growth can do is become a better alternative to college soccer. If they can start getting 16-19 year old players who aren't near the mls academies that'd give them a couple years to learn to be a professional. Then the USL and NASL teams can sell them to mls. Fans of the USL and NASL teams can start keeping track of the players they've graduated to mls. They get exposure in us open cup matches. It'd be great for all involved.


Agree with you. I feel that college soccer needs to be reduced in that it helps us find rough diamonds in the edge or helps build depth for mls teams. It should not be relied upon as main methods of development. I have always felt the sooner that college soccers role gets reduced the better of we will be.

rotosportsbook
Post #12
Tuesday August 12, 2014 6:49pm

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Why do people even want a promotion/relegation system? Because Europe does it? In my opinion relegation just helps create more disparity, as teams that yo-yo between divisions are at an economic disadvantage with those that remain up top, and therefore the weak only get weaker. If you are from a mid-size market and don't have a club, sure it would be good for you, but would it be good for San Jose or Columbus? Maybe I am missing something but someone please share with me why promotion/relegation would be good for MLS.


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