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MSantoine
Post #106
Monday February 1, 2016 6:13pm

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I think the biggest subplot of Pulisic's break through is that this is truly Jurgen's biggest challenge to date. No one expected to win the world cup, or make a semi final appearance. No one is pissed off over not winning gold cup as gold cup really isnt that important anymore. Sure making Confed cup would have been nice but really since he came about it was really all about 2018 and 2022.

Now here comes along a truly special young player, really the first we've had since Jurgen came up (Green and Zelalem havent come through in my opinion). How quickly/slowly Jurgen integrates Pulisic will be a hugely debated thing. Throw him in too fast and risk injury/exposing/killing confidence. Bring him along too slow and maybe he's not ready for the world cup or your team isnt used to playing with him.

Integrating Miazga is much easier (he's so much better than Besler, let him and Brooks play together to gain some familiarity starting in march, if it has bumps in march put it on pause through copa and come back to it in the fall. Getting Nagbe/Bradley/Morris/Jozy to all play off Pulisic (he should be the engine once he's starting with the offense going through him, not bradley) wil be the key to whether 2018 is a make it out of the group stage world cup or a deep run through the knockout rounds world cup.

USAGunner
West Palm Beach
Post #107
Monday February 1, 2016 7:30pm

Joined Jul 2013
Total Posts: 1,322
Watching that video I get giddy thinking about the possibilities of the future.

Having a guy like that is a game changer. The hard working talent around us that are good pieces, just not THE guy suddenly become good enough.

Despite his warts and what people say about him Jozy is our best finisher, he's not great at creating his own, but he can finish. He's also not near as bad as people think he is about getting into goal scoring positions. That's really the aspect of his game that comes and goes. When he is playing regularly he does that just fine. But he loses that when he gets out of sync.

So you add a playmaker like Pulisic that can get the ball into dangerous positions for teammates, that can create chances and space. Suddenly a guy like Altidore becomes much better.

Bradley is just an average player at the international level when asked to play up to high. He is inconsistent there. But if he is pushed back some, not loaded with too much responsibility in regards to creativity and creating, he becomes a much better player (We saw that last night with Nguyen as the creative force and allowing Bradley to roam).

I'd love to see a line up of:
Altidore - Morris
Pulisic
FabJo - Nagbe
Bradley
Acosta - Cameron - Brooks - Yedlin

Nagbe and Pulisic can be switched too.
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chris_thebassplayer
San Jose
Post #108
Tuesday February 2, 2016 12:07am

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 1,533
Gunner - I like most of that line up...not crazy about the back four.

I think we could get away with MB deep, against mid to lower level teams. I don't see him playing that deep solo against top level teams. I don't think JK would put him in the solo 6 position.

I think where to play MB in midfield when we have better options at ACM (Pulisic) will be our next little talking point heading into 2018 WC. No problem in 4-2-3-1, but 4-4-2 diamond creates potential issues if he is on the point or protecting the back line. It might be moot, since we'd likely be in a 4-2-3-1 against top teams anyway.

I'm betting JK would still put MB on the point in a diamond and kick Pulisic out wide. Possibly with the idea that Pulisic would play it like LD, occasionally cutting in to combo with MB underneath two forwards.

What I would like to see in a couple years. I'd be fine with Pulisic on the flank also. I'm not doggin Jozy. I just think Wood will be a better solo forward option two years from now....unfortunately, he won't be getting Jozy minutes to prove it.

..............Wood.............
Fab.........Pulisic.......Morris
..........MB........................
...................Cam.............

blaise213
Post #109
Tuesday February 2, 2016 9:26am

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 3,085
Since Pulisic already looks 25, I'd call him into the national team!

---- Morris --- Johannsson ---
Fab --- Pulisic --- Nagbe --- Sayef
Villafana -- Brooks - Miazga - Yedlin
--------- Howard -----------

I'd give anything to see what this team looks like without Bradley and Altidore in the line-up

USAGunner
West Palm Beach
Post #110
Tuesday February 2, 2016 2:29pm

Joined Jul 2013
Total Posts: 1,322
Why do people continue to put ArJo up top over Altidore, Morris, Wood? I just don't get it. All 3 have looked better than ArJo consistently. ArJo at this point is just a whisper of talent and potential that is quickly fading away. Like Agudelo. Lot of hype, but not a lot of impressing of coaches, or production.

I agree a 4-2-3-1 fits Bradley and our defense better, but a 4-4-2 diamond gets better players on the pitch (mainly because our FWs at this point are better than our Wingers).

I'd like to see this in March (0% chance we do):

Yedlin - Cameron - Brooks - Ream
Bradley - Nagbe
Morris - Nguyen - Bedoya
Altidore
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Percival
Post #111
Tuesday February 2, 2016 3:32pm

Joined Apr 2014
Total Posts: 162
I'm not sold on Nguyen as our CAM going forward. Think we're making too much of his playing a good game against Iceland's B squad. Depth player for me.

March friendlies:

Yedlin - Cameron - Brooks - Ream

Bradley - Nagbe

Bedoya - Deuce - Fab Jo

Altidore

*Assuming we won't have Morris available as he'll be with the u23's.

USAGunner
West Palm Beach
Post #112
Tuesday February 2, 2016 4:48pm

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Not sure why I forgot about Fab Jo. Insert him in there for Bedoya (or Morris if he can't go).

I'm not 100% sold on Nguyen either, I'd just like to see that lineup in March to see how it would go.
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Spank
661
Post #113
Tuesday February 2, 2016 6:41pm

Joined Feb 2013
Total Posts: 133
Original post from blaise213

Since Pulisic already looks 25, I'd call him into the national team!

-- Morris -- Johannsson --
Fab -- Pulisic -- Nagbe -- Sayef
Villafana - Brooks - Miazga - Yedlin
----- Howard ------

I'd give anything to see what this team looks like without Bradley and Altidore in the line-up


I give this XI my full backing! I too am so tired of seeing Bradley and Altidore. I know everyone always raves about Bradley's deep lying distribution but we wouldn't need that with an attacking line up like this.

USAGunner
West Palm Beach
Post #114
Tuesday February 2, 2016 8:21pm

Joined Jul 2013
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that line up would give up about 50 shots on goal (the one with Pulisic and Nagbe in center).

There is nothing connecting the defense with the attack, and no one to cover for Yedlin and/or Villafana as they speed into attack. You basically have 8 guys in attack and only 2 guys in the back devoted to defense. Teams would KILL us in the counter and when we lose the ball. They would have an incredible amount of space. Even the 2 CBs you have are guys who tend to get forward.

Complete lack of defense. Would get slaughtered against any good team.
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admsghs27
Post #115
Tuesday February 2, 2016 8:30pm

Joined Nov 2012
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This would be my line up for 2018... 4-3-3 by then.

----- Morris -- Johansson -- Wood -

--- Pulisic --- Bradley ( C ) ----- Nagbe -

- Fabian -- Brooks --- Miazga -- Yedlin -

----------- Guzan --------

USAGunner
West Palm Beach
Post #116
Tuesday February 2, 2016 9:29pm

Joined Jul 2013
Total Posts: 1,322
Original post from admsghs27

This would be my line up for 2018... 4-3-3 by then.

--- Morris - Johansson - Wood -

-- Pulisic -- Bradley ( C ) --- Nagbe -

- Fabian - Brooks -- Miazga - Yedlin -

------ Guzan ----


This looks infinitely better than the lineup Blaise offered.
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Dave
Post #117
Tuesday February 2, 2016 11:47pm

Joined Jul 2014
Total Posts: 1,043
Original post from admsghs27

This would be my line up for 2018... 4-3-3 by then.

--- Morris - Johansson - Wood -

-- Pulisic -- Bradley ( C ) --- Nagbe -

- Fabian - Brooks -- Miazga - Yedlin -

------ Guzan ----


While I think a 4-3-3 could be the formation I think your selections may be a little light on the defensive side of the ball. I just don't think Pulisic will be up to the defensive responsibilities required of a 3 man midfield. I'd therefore replace either Wood or Morris, shift Pulisic to the forward line and insert a more defensive midfielder. Thinking something along the following lines:

-----Pulisci------ArJo-------Wood-----
-----Nagbe-----Cameron------Bradley----
-FabJo-----Brooks-----Miazga----Yedlin---

I think this would be stronger defensively while not impacting the attack. If Cameron isn't up to par by that point than maybe Morales or Williams will be. Another option would be if we do find a quality LB to shift Fabian to RM and Bradley at CM.

cudevil
Post #118
Wednesday February 3, 2016 12:06am

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 1,036
Original post from USAGunner

that line up would give up about 50 shots on goal (the one with Pulisic and Nagbe in center).

There is nothing connecting the defense with the attack, and no one to cover for Yedlin and/or Villafana as they speed into attack. You basically have 8 guys in attack and only 2 guys in the back devoted to defense. Teams would KILL us in the counter and when we lose the ball. They would have an incredible amount of space. Even the 2 CBs you have are guys who tend to get forward.

Complete lack of defense. Would get slaughtered against any good team.


But that team would never lose the ball...like ever...so no counterattacks...[insert eye roll].

dunlopp9987
Post #119
Wednesday February 3, 2016 12:14am

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 2,645
Original post from Dave

While I think a 4-3-3 could be the formation I think your selections may be a little light on the defensive side of the ball. I just don't think Pulisic will be up to the defensive responsibilities required of a 3 man midfield. I'd therefore replace either Wood or Morris, shift Pulisic to the forward line and insert a more defensive midfielder. Thinking something along the following lines:

---Pulisci---ArJo----Wood---
---Nagbe---Cameron---Bradley--
-FabJo---Brooks---Miazga--Yedlin--

I think this would be stronger defensively while not impacting the attack. If Cameron isn't up to par by that point than maybe Morales or Williams will be. Another option would be if we do find a quality LB to shift Fabian to RM and Bradley at CM.


Agreed. I would love to see a 4-3-3, but if you're gonna have Bradley in the middle with an attacking midfielder like Nagbe/Nguyen/Pulisic, etc...you have to have defensive cover. Cam is the obvious first choice.
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Dave
Post #120
Wednesday February 3, 2016 3:52am

Joined Jul 2014
Total Posts: 1,043
Original post from dunlopp9987

Agreed. I would love to see a 4-3-3, but if you're gonna have Bradley in the middle with an attacking midfielder like Nagbe/Nguyen/Pulisic, etc...you have to have defensive cover. Cam is the obvious first choice.


Cameron is currently my 1st choice, but who knows where he or the others will be in 2 years. If Cameron's standing drops and Morales or Williams do not raise their game enough....Than I could potentially see a midfield 3 where Bradley was the central with Nagbe & Fabian on the outside. Bradley can play disciplined as a more defensive player when need be while Nagbe & Fabian can play both ways. But that would be dependent on finding a quality LB who is up to the task.

While its fun to speculate on players & formations there are still a number of things that need to be addressed within the Team before things really come into focus. As it currently stands we need:
1) Find & Integrate a viable LB. Ream, Villafana, Shea, Pelosi, & Acosta are likely our best options right now of being able to move Fabian forward for good.
2) A RCB needs to emerge in order to free up Cameron. Gonzalez, Alvarado, Miazga are our best chance but they need to step it up.
Once these aspects are resolved we'll have a much better idea of how the rest of the team falls into place.

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