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dunlopp9987
Post #151
Friday February 5, 2016 5:35am

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Original post from admsghs27

I'm not is a fact.. The reason i like Pulisic more than the other duals is because he is Home grown, and made it with one of the best clubs in the world at just the age of 17. Heck not even our German duals made that accomplishment even tho they played there their whole lives and knew the style there yet couldn't crack the first team til much later than Pulisic. He is the only American currently that has a chance to be a world wide superstar, like a Zlatan, Messi, CR7, Iniesta, Suarez, Neymar, Van persie, Muller etc type of name player a couple years down the road.


Christian Pulisic is going to be a fine player. Maybe one of our best ever. But the fact that you just said he has a chance to be as good as those players you listed makes me want to punch you in the tooth.
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admsghs27
Post #152
Friday February 5, 2016 6:21am

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Original post from dunlopp9987

Christian Pulisic is going to be a fine player. Maybe one of our best ever. But the fact that you just said he has a[b] chance to be as good [/b]as those players you listed makes me want to punch you in the tooth.


You seriously need to enhance your reading skills. I said name type.... Not as good as them after all he is American he can sell and be more popular than most of those players i should of Mentioned Chicharito cause he is bigger/name than all those players except for Messi, and CR7. It makes me wanna give you some Reading lessons kid. When i said superstar is because of his popularity. And even then why not he can be as good as say a Suarez or Persie type.

TheTruth
Post #153
Friday February 5, 2016 3:08pm

Joined Dec 2013
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Yeah and I have a chance to win the next Powerball.

USAGunner
West Palm Beach
Post #154
Friday February 5, 2016 3:43pm

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Going to actually agree with adms here in regards to Pulisic's potential. I've read quite a few who follow Dortmund and know a lot and apparently most in Germany think he has that kind of potential to be a World Class player. Certainly not Messi or CR7, but any of the others is a possibility. I have seen sentiments that European Scouts think he is one of a handful of young players that they would put in that elite potential category.

Obviously he still needs to continue to grow as a player and work hard and get better, but that kind of potential is legitimately there.

He is one of only a handful of 17 and under players to make his debut in the Bundesliga EVER. And he is the only one to do so in a side that is Champs League caliber. More or less one of the top 10 rosters in the world.

They think highly enough of him that they chose not to bring in any Attacking players in January, and even sold one and ended the loan of another. That's in a position of NEED for them. Why? because they think highly enough of Pulisic.

That says a LOT.

I'm certainly not going to say he WILL be that good, but the potential is there. I'll be more than satisfied if he just gets to a consistent and regular starter at Dortmund and is a shade off of World Class.
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mhdtown
Post #155
Friday February 5, 2016 4:01pm

Joined Oct 2015
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While it is virtually impossible to peg a player's ceiling at just 17, one thing I think is worth noting is how Pulisic is different than many other players (in various sports) that are able to play at the 1st team level at a young age. He is not physically more mature than/superior to his peers, as someone like LeBron James was at that age (or as CCV is, one could argue). He looks like any other 17 year old, or is perhaps even a bit smaller. I have become accustomed to American players making it on grit, athleticism and fitness. Christian may have all of those things, but at the moment he is using his superior skill, technique and vision/understanding to overcome his physical maturity disadvantages. I find this to be very promising - and very different as compared to many American players that we have seen in the past.

dunlopp9987
Post #156
Friday February 5, 2016 4:35pm

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Original post from admsghs27

You seriously need to enhance your reading skills. I said name type.... Not as good as them after all he is American he can sell and be more popular than most of those players i should of Mentioned Chicharito cause he is bigger/name than all those players except for Messi, and CR7. It makes me wanna give you some Reading lessons kid. When i said superstar is because of his popularity. And even then why not he can be as good as say a Suarez or Persie type.


I'll take reading lessons from you the day you stop using "is" for "it's"...
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USAGunner
West Palm Beach
Post #157
Friday February 5, 2016 5:43pm

Joined Jul 2013
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Original post from mhdtown

While it is virtually impossible to peg a player's ceiling at just 17, one thing I think is worth noting is how Pulisic is different than many other players (in various sports) that are able to play at the 1st team level at a young age. He is not physically more mature than/superior to his peers, as someone like LeBron James was at that age (or as CCV is, one could argue). He looks like any other 17 year old, or is perhaps even a bit smaller. I have become accustomed to American players making it on grit, athleticism and fitness. Christian may have all of those things, but at the moment he is using his superior skill, technique and vision/understanding to overcome his physical maturity disadvantages. I find this to be very promising - and very different as compared to many American players that we have seen in the past.


I think you see that more with this coming generation than you did in the past.

I think the main thing that is holding Zelalem back at the moment is physical maturity. Hyndman is the same. I think Green is along the same lines (to a lesser extent).

That's why it is so encouraging with this young crop. They are more than good athletes, they are skillfull soccer players.

Many of the past generations have been guys like Yedlin, Morris, Brooks, Altidore, and more have used athleticism at a young age to make up that gap. Only once you get to late teens and early 20's the level of skill in basketball needed to be world Class is harder to pick up. So it's harder for those athletic guys to fully get to that level without picking up the necessary skills earlier in life.

So to have guys that are still maturing physically but have the necessary skills (which can still be further developed through experience) is very promising and exciting.

If you are 17-22 there is more room to grow physically than skillfully. Both can gain tactically the same.
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mhdtown
Post #158
Friday February 5, 2016 6:25pm

Joined Oct 2015
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Original post from USAGunner

I think you see that more with this coming generation than you did in the past.

I think the main thing that is holding Zelalem back at the moment is physical maturity. Hyndman is the same. I think Green is along the same lines (to a lesser extent).

That's why it is so encouraging with this young crop. They are more than good athletes, they are skillfull soccer players.

Many of the past generations have been guys like Yedlin, Morris, Brooks, Altidore, and more have used athleticism at a young age to make up that gap. Only once you get to late teens and early 20's the level of skill in basketball needed to be world Class is harder to pick up. So it's harder for those athletic guys to fully get to that level without picking up the necessary skills earlier in life.

So to have guys that are still maturing physically but have the necessary skills (which can still be further developed through experience) is very promising and exciting.

If you are 17-22 there is more room to grow physically than skillfully. Both can gain tactically the same.


Agree, and particularly with the Zelalem comment. Not easy to play against grown men at that age and stage of development. Makes what Pulisic is doing all the more impressive. Hopefully someday we have a talent that combines superior athleticism with incredible skill (and chooses to play soccer).

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #159
Friday February 5, 2016 6:28pm

Joined Jul 2012
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Original post from mhdtown

Agree, and particularly with the Zelalem comment. Not easy to play against grown men at that age and stage of development. Makes what Pulisic is doing all the more impressive. Hopefully someday we have a talent that combines superior athleticism with incredible skill (and chooses to play soccer).


Already have it with Jordan Morris.

mhdtown
Post #160
Friday February 5, 2016 6:52pm

Joined Oct 2015
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Original post from 2tone

Already have it with Jordan Morris.


Do you really think that highly of Morris' skill, technique, etc.? I honestly haven't seen enough of him to have an opinion - Bremen certainly spoke highly of him. My impression from what I have read about him is that he trends more toward the high end physical ability, but maybe not quite there on the other attributes. From your posts about him, I gather you have seen him a lot more than I have. Curious to hear that perspective, as well as to watch him in MLS this season.

USAGunner
West Palm Beach
Post #161
Friday February 5, 2016 7:22pm

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I think mhdtown was talking more along the lines of a generational talent like a Christiano Ronaldo. Who has incredible athleticism and Brazil like skill/technique.

Morris might have the best of that combination for a USA player (maybe even ever). He does possess incredible athleticism, but his skill level isn't THAT high (CR7 level). I'd say Morris is more along the lines of a Walcott/Oxlade-Chamberlain potential. Crazy athetlic abilities, good skills, but not elite. Certainly better than what we typically see with American prospects.

At least that's what I got from his statement. Which would be nice, but for now I'll just take a couple guys who have elite level skills, but aren't elite level athletes. (Pulisic, Zelalem, etc).

Combine Yedlin athleticism with Pulisic skill. BAM that would be Elite World Class.
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2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #162
Friday February 5, 2016 7:29pm

Joined Jul 2012
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Original post from mhdtown

Do you really think that highly of Morris' skill, technique, etc.? I honestly haven't seen enough of him to have an opinion - Bremen certainly spoke highly of him. My impression from what I have read about him is that he trends more toward the high end physical ability, but maybe not quite there on the other attributes. From your posts about him, I gather you have seen him a lot more than I have. Curious to hear that perspective, as well as to watch him in MLS this season.


He is highly technical. In fact he grew up in Seattle youth system playing as a 10. He was short and not very physically gifted as a youngster and had to develop that part of his game. His physical gifts didn't happen until he hit around 16. No he doesn't do thousands of step overs a la Christiano, but he has very good vision, exceptional balance, very good passing range and a nose for goal. The more you see of him the more you realize that his footballing IQ is quite high.

admsghs27
Post #163
Friday February 5, 2016 7:29pm

Joined Nov 2012
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Gyau is another potential great wing if or when he is healthy. Let's not forget he was starting to see first team minutes for Dortmund before his injury. We could possibly have Pulisic, Gyau on the wings with Bradley and Nagbe in the middle, and Fabian, Yedlin as Fullbacks, Morris, Wood up top that would be a lot of world class speed on a team.

USAGunner
West Palm Beach
Post #164
Friday February 5, 2016 8:23pm

Joined Jul 2013
Total Posts: 1,322
Original post from 2tone

He is highly technical. In fact he grew up in Seattle youth system playing as a 10. He was short and not very physically gifted as a youngster and had to develop that part of his game. His physical gifts didn't happen until he hit around 16. No he doesn't do thousands of step overs a la Christiano, but he has very good vision, exceptional balance, very good passing range and a nose for goal. The more you see of him the more you realize that his footballing IQ is quite high.


No one is saying he isn't highly technical. Just saying he isn't elite skill wise. If he was with his athleticism then Real Madrid, Man City, etc would be splashing cash at him.

His ceiling is certainly World Class player. But his ceiling is not CR7 or Messi. Which is what I believe mhd was saying.

Elite Athleticism with very good skills = lower end of World Class. IF he gets to his full potential.
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mhdtown
Post #165
Friday February 5, 2016 8:43pm

Joined Oct 2015
Total Posts: 17
Original post from 2tone

He is highly technical. In fact he grew up in Seattle youth system playing as a 10. He was short and not very physically gifted as a youngster and had to develop that part of his game. His physical gifts didn't happen until he hit around 16. No he doesn't do thousands of step overs a la Christiano, but he has very good vision, exceptional balance, very good passing range and a nose for goal. The more you see of him the more you realize that his footballing IQ is quite high.


I didn't know he played the 10 when he was younger, thanks for the info. I would agree that in the limited times I have seen him, he certainly has a knack for making the right runs to put himself in dangerous positions and/or create space for his teammates.

Whenever I think of step overs, I think of EJ and his go to/only move - step over with the left, speed dribble with the right!

Anyway, I'm looking forward to seeing a lot more of Morris this season - not many Stanford Cardinal games on TV where I am.

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