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Post #46
Saturday August 23, 2014 5:44pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 1,960
I agree with you on Gay. Once he was called in to replace Durant I assumed he was a lock to make the roster so I wasn't entertaining him as an option for the last few spots but that doesn't mean that he should have made the team. Korver for Gay and Drummond on the bench would have been fine.

After 2006 there was a huge outcry that the team was missing a true shooter and in response Michael Redd was added to the 2007 Tournament of the Americas team and the 2008 Redeem Team.

In turned out that Team USA didn't really need him in either tournament and I feel like because he wasn't needed we've quickly forgotten our past. Chances are that Team USA won't need Korver but I'd still plan for the worst case situations and bring him over more redundant players. He is a role player that fills a niche. You don't need to be a team of the 12 most skilled players, you need the 12 players that create the strongest collective unit. For me Korver should be on the team for his shooting.

EKneezy
Post #47
Saturday August 23, 2014 6:00pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 1,836
Gay can be an international 4 which KD was going to play before he dropped out. I dont think he'll be as much as a ball stopper as we would think. Coach K wouldnt allow that at all.

hamsamwich
Post #48
Saturday August 23, 2014 8:20pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 508
Andre Drummond got like 23 rebounds in a game I was at last year in chicago. I had never really heard of him before that night, but I was impressed. Has a knack for getting in the right spots, truly dragged down by awful teammates on the pistons.

hamsamwich
Post #49
Saturday August 23, 2014 8:23pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 508
In regards to perimeter shooting I believe the international 3 point line is still a good deal shorter than the nba 3... So we don't quite need as great of shooters to make them. I will agree about Rudy gay, he's just not that great. I've never been a fan of his attitude.

MSantoine
Post #50
Sunday August 24, 2014 12:20pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 2,182
No need for Korver. Thompson is just as good a shooter and plays much better defense. To me Korver is like brad davis and klay is Zusi. Sure Korver may be slightly better shooting 3s but the drop off from him to klay is not that much and klay brings way more to the table.

cleancutimage
Post #51
Sunday August 24, 2014 4:24pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 158
We should breeze through the group stage without a challenge when compared to groups A & B. That should keep us fresh for the knockout round. We just cannot think we can turn it on and off at that point. But we should win another title.

admsghs27
Post #52
Saturday August 30, 2014 11:06pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 3,142
USA just walked trough Finland. They held them to zero field goals in the 2nd quateramazing defense no matter what level. Spain looked ok, this team looks better than the 2010 team so far very athletic and fast, defensively stellar.

MSantoine
Post #53
Saturday August 30, 2014 11:12pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 2,182
USA won by almost 70 points. Shocking. No point in watching any games right now.

chillguy1992
Post #54
Sunday August 31, 2014 12:59am

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 444
Game against turkey tomorrow will probably be one of the tougher games for the group stage at least. If i were to watch just 1 game i would try to watch that one. Finland game wow our second quarter defense was impressive. The us roster was picked about as good as you can get dont understand all the worrying about the roster thibbodeau is the teams defensive coach its really starting to show. Plumlee and drummond will be depth we can use against spain or other teams that decide to go tall.

MSantoine
Post #55
Sunday August 31, 2014 1:04am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 2,182
Original post from chillguy1992

Game against turkey tomorrow will probably be one of the tougher games for the group stage at least. If i were to watch just 1 game i would try to watch that one. Finland game wow our second quarter defense was impressive. The us roster was picked about as good as you can get dont understand all the worrying about the roster thibbodeau is the teams defensive coach its really starting to show. Plumlee and drummond will be depth we can use against spain or other teams that decide to go tall.


Turkey hasn't been good in about 8 years.

Tiger
Post #56
Sunday August 31, 2014 10:10pm

Joined Jul 2013
Total Posts: 94
@skangles re Posts 38 and 39. Kevin Love has more than paid his dues in the NBA, as well as in representing his country internationally with the USMNBT. He was part of the gold medal winning 2012 version of the team, amongst other competitions in which he played and gave his all for his US national team.

He didn't owe the US national team anything.

As of early August 2014, his club status was still in limbo and yet to be determined. At that point in his career, if he was going to have a real shot at becoming an NBA champion, he definitely needed to leave Minnesota.

The FIBA championship is not anywhere near being on a par with the FIFA World Cup. In the basketball world hierarchy it is at best a distant third behind the NBA title, and the Olympic title.

With his club status still unresolved, it would have been foolish to risk the possibility of injury, much less severe injury, that could easily derail all he has worked for to this point in time, much less what he still has left to accomplish in the NBA.

Any injury, much less anything severe, could easily have done real damage to his NBA playing viability and marketability.

The NBA is the world stage and true crucible of basketball. It is the ultimate proving ground in the basketball profession, just as the WC is for soccer/football.

It is where Kevin Love made and established his professional name, his money, and his professional image. It is the key to everything for him and any other player who aspires to be at the top of the profession.

The comparisons between the FIBA championship and the FIFA WC fail to take cognizance of the many differences in and between the sports, and as such those comparisons are at best misplaced.

Tiger
Post #57
Sunday August 31, 2014 10:12pm

Joined Jul 2013
Total Posts: 94
BTW: USA all the way! Coach K knows what he is doing.

admsghs27
Post #58
Sunday August 31, 2014 10:31pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 3,142
USA struggled most of the game but pulled away late. I think they will have a very tough time vs Spain if they both play in the Final, it could be anyone's game.

MSantoine
Post #59
Sunday August 31, 2014 11:54pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 2,182
Beating the 2nd best team in their group (7th best country in the world) by 24(final score was 21 as turkey hit a meaningless 3 at the buzzer).

Again why would anyone waste there time watching this garbage. 10 of the 24 games have been decided by at least 20 points. 17 of them (almost 70%) by 10+. Exactly 4 games by one possession.

Of the 24 teams in the tourney, 17 of them are ranked in the top 24 so it's not like it's a weak field. It's the norm.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #60
Tuesday September 9, 2014 11:15pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 5,015
US into the Semis. They cruised by Slovenia 119-76.

They take on Lithuania in the Semi's.

MSantoine no one is making you watch. There are a lot of people that watch the FIBA WC. The last one drew in 800 million viewers.

The FIBA WC is a very big thing in Eastern European Bloc Countries as well as some Far Eastern countries. Basketball is starting to get bigger and bigger in Brasil and Argentina and in Mexico.

Only Americans say who cares because we just assume the US will win. But from '98 to 2006 the USA didn't win a FIBA WC.

From '59 until '82 the USA didn't win a FIBA WC.

If the US wins this tournament they will have the same amount of FIBA WC titles as Yugoslavia has which is 5.

So, really it's not a given that the US will always win because in the past they haven't always won.

Do Brasilians say who cares to the FIFA WC? No they don't, even though they have won the tournament 5 times.

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