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chillguy1992
Post #1
Thursday July 24, 2014 11:32pm

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In a story that could deffiently impact how qualifying for 2018 turns out Costa Ricas head coach is no longer with costa rica. I think this could deffiently be significant since I thought last cycle costa rica was the second best team in concacaf. Herrera has worked out well for mexico, Honduras is staying with their head coach, Panama surprisingly dispatched Valdes as their head coach. It will be interesting to see how these decisions affect qualifying. I think Costa Rica was on the up with Pinto it will be intresting to see who they hire and if they stay with his tactics which worked very well in the world cup.
I think this is how qualifying ends up in terms of rankings next cycle

1. United States are very strong with klinsmann in qualifying.
2. Mexico look a lot better with herrera.
3. Costa Rica I think the depature of Pinto hurts but they still automatic qualify
4. Honduras Solid Squad will be in the playoff
5. Jamaica Will get to this round but then will not be able to crack the top four.
6. Canada Surprise pick I think their coach will be able to build a solid squad. Plus I think Panama will be hurt by the loss of their head coach plus the core of their team will be pretty old by next cycle.

Of course these rankings all depend on how round of qualifying before even shapes up.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #2
Thursday July 24, 2014 11:53pm

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El Salvador look to be a strong squad heading into the next cycle. Should be interesting to see who comes out of Central America. I could see Honduras slipping.

Jamaica is aggressively recruiting English born Jamaicans. Don't be surprised if they have a very strong team at the Gold Cup next summer.

I still think Canada is a cycle away from really doing anything. I have a feeling they will be a pretty good team for the 2022 cycle. And if FIFA decides to strip Qatar of the 2022 WC and award it to the US then Canada will definitely be in the mix to make that WC.

skangles
DC
Post #3
Friday July 25, 2014 12:46am

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I thought Canada was going to make the Hex last cycle. They had a pretty squad and they were doing well. Like the US they were in a must win or draw situation in the last game of the third round. Unlike the US, they got smoked 8-1 by Honduras.

db707
Post #4
Friday July 25, 2014 1:06am

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Original post from skangles

I thought Canada was going to make the Hex last cycle. They had a pretty squad and they were doing well. Like the US they were in a must win or draw situation in the last game of the third round. Unlike the US, they got smoked 8-1 by Honduras.


Started an active streak of 16 matches without a victory for Canada. To put that in some perspective, the U.S. has 22 wins since Canada last won a game (October 12, 2012). That was an experienced Canada team too; the team they field in the upcoming cycle will look very different and they do have young players coming up they can turn to (Jordan Hamilton showed flashes last night, for example) and a better coach in Floro this time around. But I agree the build will be more to 2022 for them. For 2018 making the Hex (or whatever the final round is) will be an improvement.

Jzaval01
Post #5
Friday July 25, 2014 1:13am

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Pinto should be JUrgen tactical man haha. Hire Pinto please !!! Drop the Cash USSF

admsghs27
Post #6
Friday July 25, 2014 1:26am

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I think the top 5 going onto 2018 are Usa, Mexico, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Honduras.
And the worst team has to be Canada even behind Guatemala, Haiti, t&t etc.. pinto is a good coach many teams including clubs will want him.

chillguy1992
Post #7
Friday July 25, 2014 1:39am

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Pinto reportedly has offers from Ecuador, and Peru with various other countries interested my guess is he ends up coaching Ecuador. He coached colombia before also the chance to get back to south america would probably be pretty enticing.

db707
Post #8
Friday July 25, 2014 1:47am

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Original post from 2tone

El Salvador look to be a strong squad heading into the next cycle. Should be interesting to see who comes out of Central America. I could see Honduras slipping.

Jamaica is aggressively recruiting English born Jamaicans. Don't be surprised if they have a very strong team at the Gold Cup next summer.

I still think Canada is a cycle away from really doing anything. I have a feeling they will be a pretty good team for the 2022 cycle. And if FIFA decides to strip Qatar of the 2022 WC and award it to the US then Canada will definitely be in the mix to make that WC.


I agree with you on Canada and that we shouldn't sleep on Jamaica if they can get the team to gel effectively. I'd like to hear more about your thoughts on why you think El Salvador is a threat though. With all of the players they had banned for match fixing, looking at their most recent roster, it was mostly Salvadoran league guys and even a few NASL guys. I don't know about their Olympic, U-20, U-17 levels I admit, but on paper, they look right now like they would struggle to make the final round of Concacaf qualifying.

chillguy1992
Post #9
Friday July 25, 2014 1:59am

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Also I only picked Canada because Panama have huge roster turnover along with losing a very good coach. Plus El Salvadors best player from the gold cup Rodolfo Zelaya was suspended for an entire year from soccer. Along with 14 others who were banned for life and 4 others who were suspended between 6 months and 18 months I think that significantly impacts el salvadors ability to compete in the long term. William Romero one of their better players he was banned for life along with a singificant number of other players. I think the 6th spot will be a tough call for the next world cup cycle. I could see a number of teams getting the 6th spot.

Dave
Post #10
Friday July 25, 2014 3:44am

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Next years Gold Cup will very likely determine how CONCACAF qualification pans out. Beyond the top 2 (maybe 3) teams.
USA & Mexico are the Class of the region. Which one is on top usually comes down to a coin toss, save for the last Hex. I expect the 2018 Hex to be a toss up between us again. Mexico finished strong in the WC, they have the player quality needed, but they can implode if things don't go their way (a-la Hex Qualification for 2014). US likely to have the most consistent team. Will be on part w/ Mexico for player quality & depth but greater unity.
Costa Rica & Honduras generally are the next in line, but Jamaica's recruitment efforts and speed will push CR & Hon for a place at the table. Coaching Change will impact CR and Jamaica...but how much remains to be seen.
Canada, Guatemala, Panama El Salvador & T & T are the 3rd tier teams...They can surprise you but don't have the consistency of player quality cycle to cycle or even sometimes match to match, to expect much more than making the Hex.
El Salvador has the bans to contend with, Panama & Canada have to replace a lot of experienced/older players, Guatemala and T & T are long shots.
I'm hoping that the 2015 Gold Cup ends up as follows:
1) USA, 2) Costa Rica, 3) Mexico 4) Panama, 5) Jamaica, 6) Honduras, 7) Canada
2018 Qualification ends as follows:
1) USA/Mex, 2) Mex/USA, 3) Costa Rica, 4) Jamaica, 5) Honduras, 6) Canada

coverby
Post #11
Friday July 25, 2014 4:30am

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To me it is all about the draw in the round before the hexagonal. Canada since not making the hex in quite some time gets tougher draws. They were close to knocking Mexico out for the 2010 world cup. Sven was sacked after that round. And Canada obviously crapped the bed against Honduras this last time.


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