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Post #16
Friday June 27, 2014 3:04am

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Original post from 2tone

Actually the best partner I have seen for Altidore is Adu. Even Altidore will tell you that Adu is the most talented player he has ever played with.


Must be talking about in the U-20s because at this level I don't remember them playing together much. But that 2007 U-20 team was special. Too bad very few of them amounted to anything.

admsghs27
Post #17
Friday June 27, 2014 3:07am

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It was awesome here in Hollywood, dillons pub, after all cars were bumping Michael Jackson, waving usa flags, chanting, singing, with US soccer jerseys, celebrating his death well a day late lol, but it was Epic in Hollywood... Would be awesome to have a viewing party in both Hermosa beach, Hollywood...

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Post #18
Friday June 27, 2014 3:27am

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I think a Quarterfinals appearance at this WC would be super for us. As I have said before I believe this is the last WC we will see players who played in our college system feature. I think in 2018, it will all be players who went professional in their teens. Maybe one or two players who played college.

That said, Belgium-Algeria regardless of who we played we had favorable round of 16 opponents when compared to who we may play in the quarters. I think at this point in the tournament I will be more disappointed by not beating Belgium than not making it to the round of 16. After the teams and styles we faced in our group I think we are ready for any opponent. Like Ballack or McManaman said Germany and Spain are the two teams that would give us the biggest fit. One team is out and the other we wouldn't face until the finals and have faced before without our best attacking player.

I agree it will definitely be an Altidore watch from now until Tuesday and hopefully he will be available to us. I don't think we play the style JK necessarily wants but with the type of players we have in our pool Altidore is the best for what JK wants to do with the type of players we have. Dempsey has done a decent job at being a presence in the box but think of how effective he will be with Altidore as a presence in the box with him.

Jzaval01
Post #19
Friday June 27, 2014 3:32am

Joined May 2013
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Original post from cleancutimage

I think a Quarterfinals appearance at this WC would be super for us. As I have said before I believe this is the last WC we will see players who played in our college system feature. I think in 2018, it will all be players who went professional in their teens. Maybe one or two players who played college.

That said, Belgium-Algeria regardless of who we played we had favorable round of 16 opponents when compared to who we may play in the quarters. I think at this point in the tournament I will be more disappointed by not beating Belgium than not making it to the round of 16. After the teams and styles we faced in our group I think we are ready for any opponent. Like Ballack or McManaman said Germany and Spain are the two teams that would give us the biggest fit. One team is out and the other we wouldn't face until the finals and have faced before without our best attacking player.

I agree it will definitely be an Altidore watch from now until Tuesday and hopefully he will be available to us. I don't think we play the style JK necessarily wants but with the type of players we have in our pool Altidore is the best for what JK wants to do with the type of players we have. Dempsey has done a decent job at being a presence in the box but think of how effective he will be with Altidore as a presence in the box with him.


Ama go a step further and say i think we can not only beat Belgium but if we meet Argentina we can also beat them. Argentina and Belgium have not looked that impressive in my mine. Belgium plays as individuals and Argentina rely too much on messi. Thoughts? Semifinal isnt a stretch the way we play as a team. Not all about talent

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Post #20
Friday June 27, 2014 3:41am

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Original post from Jzaval01

Ama go a step further and say i think we can not only beat Belgium but if we meet Argentina we can also beat them. Argentina and Belgium have not looked that impressive in my mine. Belgium plays as individuals and Argentina rely too much on messi. Thoughts? Semifinal isnt a stretch the way we play as a team. Not all about talent


Semi finals isn't a stretch at all but the key would be to not give Messi too much respect or space. We will need someone to shadow him all match and not have that lapse in concentration. I know they have other great players and are more talented than Portugal but clearly Messi is the motor and can make something out of nothing. But like Germany, they are not very fast at the back so if we can get some more pace up front we can definitely get at their defense. That was where we failed against Germany, we did not attack their defense enough when we had the chance. But Dempsey had zero help, anyway that match is over and hopefully we can create more chances. Please no more Davis, please JK use all three of your subs especially when you need a goal. I hope AJ has a place in this match. The Dutch league is very similar to the Belgian league and a lot of Belgian players played in the Eredivisie, so I feel like he will be a perfect fit for AJ since he played against a lot of similar players and tactics to what he will see from Belgium.

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Post #21
Friday June 27, 2014 4:22am

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Original post from cleancutimage

Semi finals isn't a stretch at all but the key would be to not give Messi too much respect or space. We will need someone to shadow him all match and not have that lapse in concentration. I know they have other great players and are more talented than Portugal but clearly Messi is the motor and can make something out of nothing. But like Germany, they are not very fast at the back so if we can get some more pace up front we can definitely get at their defense. That was where we failed against Germany, we did not attack their defense enough when we had the chance. But Dempsey had zero help, anyway that match is over and hopefully we can create more chances. Please no more Davis, please JK use all three of your subs especially when you need a goal. I hope AJ has a place in this match. The Dutch league is very similar to the Belgian league and a lot of Belgian players played in the Eredivisie, so I feel like he will be a perfect fit for AJ since he played against a lot of similar players and tactics to what he will see from Belgium.


Agree and you can just see what Iran did to Argentina. It took a Messi wonder goal to beat Iran. But first its Belgium and Van Buyten is slooooww. Target his side of the field

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Post #22
Friday June 27, 2014 4:45am

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Original post from Jzaval01

Agree and you can just see what Iran did to Argentina. It took a Messi wonder goal to beat Iran. But first its Belgium and Van Buyten is slooooww. Target his side of the field


Van Buyten is slow but Dempsey is slow but for whatever reason has deceptive speed and gets passed player. Then again, Dempsey is one of the few players who isn't afraid to go 1v1 and dribble past a player. I always felt Dempsey is an underrated dribbler, he also is not afraid to try the trick on you. Which is one reason why I prefer him to Donovan as our most talented player of all time. I have never seen Donovan do a step over or try a trick. He would just toe poke, chest or head nod it past you and beat you with pace. If Donovan was a dribbler I think he would be a lock on any team as long as he is healthy and can still perform. Anyway, somehow Donovan finds his name back in a topic lol and it is my fault.

I think Jozy has some of that quality, Jozy isn't the dribbler that Dempsey is but he will give you the occasional step over from time to time. I would like to see more of that from Bedoya and Johnson to get past a defender against Belgium but that is only if they have the confidence and ability, which Johnson definitely has. I think Beasley was surprised when he dribbled past several Germany defenders. I don't think we can rely on him making runs like that very often vs. Belgium but hopefully he can take on the slower Belgium defenders as well since I think Hazard will not be too interested in tracking back much.

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California
Post #23
Friday June 27, 2014 6:08am

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Semi-finals doesn't sound that ridiculous. Aguero could miss rest of world cup and Argentina hasn't been firing in all cylinders (assuming Switzerland doesn't win). Let's just take it one game at a time though.

dfw_fan
DfW
Post #24
Friday June 27, 2014 6:11am

Joined Apr 2013
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maybe switch up everything and go with

Dempsey
Fabian Yedlin
JJ MB
Beckerman
Beas -- Bessler -- Cam -- Chandler
Howard....

chris_thebassplayer
San Jose
Post #25
Friday June 27, 2014 7:48am

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My early take on Belgium is we've already faced a better more disciplined team in Germany and held up well defensively. We need to generate more opportunities in the attacking third...I don't know if the 4-5-1 will provide that with Deuce up top. We've always had the ability to bring it late, even with much less talent than we have now. So I'm confident we can put them under heavy pressure in the box if we need it late. JK had a smirk on his face when he said that we'll just have to do better in the attack. I think he's going to drop something nasty on Belgium.

Jzaval01
Post #26
Friday June 27, 2014 8:03am

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Original post from Jaymes

Semi-finals doesn't sound that ridiculous. Aguero could miss rest of world cup and Argentina hasn't been firing in all cylinders (assuming Switzerland doesn't win). Let's just take it one game at a time though.

Yea agree first Belgium. Talented individuals but they have struggled against terrible side like Korea, Russia and Algeria at least compared to Group G. If we keep it compact like Algeria did in their match then they will struggle massively. I just Hope Bradley steps up even though he has done the defensive work. IMO no favorite in the match even though the media still classify Belgium as a "dark horse.

MSantoine
Post #27
Friday June 27, 2014 2:33pm

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Since Belgium is weakest on the left side and I'd also like to see the same lineup vs germany with the one switch being Yedlin for Davis with Yedlin on the right and Zusi on the left. Yedlin and Fab work real well over lapping. Maybe thats because he atacks tired legs but I'd give him a shot. Bedoya has looked sluggish. Yedlin has earned the opportunity.

MSantoine
Post #28
Friday June 27, 2014 2:35pm

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Original post from Jaymes

Semi-finals doesn't sound that ridiculous. Aguero could miss rest of world cup and Argentina hasn't been firing in all cylinders (assuming Switzerland doesn't win). Let's just take it one game at a time though.


Its just like in 2010. In South Africa we had a beatable Ghana then a beatable Uruguay. We all could picture a semi final run. Ricardo Clark made sure that wouldnt happen but its impressive to be in a spot where we could do it again. We avoided Brazil, Germany, France, & Netherlands who to me have been the clear top 4 teams

Jzaval01
Post #29
Friday June 27, 2014 3:59pm

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Original post from MSantoine

Its just like in 2010. In South Africa we had a beatable Ghana then a beatable Uruguay. We all could picture a semi final run. Ricardo Clark made sure that wouldnt happen but its impressive to be in a spot where we could do it again. We avoided Brazil, Germany, France, & Netherlands who to me have been the clear top 4 teams


I think this time around its different with a different mentality and jurgen. I was all about how clark was terrible in that goal give away but seeing how ghana made the Germans give up possession and punish them R. Clark style then you have to give more credit to ghana then what not. Ghana just good at that pressure in midfield.

blaise213
Post #30
Friday June 27, 2014 4:22pm

Joined Sep 2012
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Yahoo sports reporting Jermaine Jones has a broken nose from the collision with Bedoya.

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