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cudevil
Post #211
Tuesday July 1, 2014 11:42pm

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Original post from cleancutimage

So we decide to finally attack in AET? Questions will be asked. But we have showed we have the aptitude to attack and control the match against more talented sides. So why not take it to teams from the start? Green and Yedlin showed that they are the future. Bedoya wasn't bad but he gave us little in the attacking third. He wants to be a CM. But my biggest question is letting teams take it to us for 90 minutes. Irony in that was both goals were scored while we pushed players forward.


You think we let them do that? Belgium needs some credit. They are, what, 16 deep with guys starting at huge clubs? They were just better. Frankly, I was happy that we created a number of reasonable half chances throughout and that despite the shot disparity, it wasn't entirely one way traffic.

cudevil
Post #212
Tuesday July 1, 2014 11:43pm

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Original post from Dimo

And what does that have to do with anything? I never said I'm not going to support the team. All I'm saying is that was a disappointing performance. We did not play well at all. Our goal was nice and the pressure we put on was good at the end but thats something we've always been able to do. The worst part is that Belgium gave us a million opportunities and we couldn't capitalize. Wondolowski made the roster for his supposed prowess in the penalty area. Well he messed up two easy chances in the 6 yard box that I'm confident most world cup caliber players should finish. Why was Johannsson not given a chance? You have to admit that Klinsmann got it all wrong in this game.


We do? Where is that written? Take a breath.

cleancutimage
Post #213
Tuesday July 1, 2014 11:45pm

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Original post from cudevil

You think we let them do that? Belgium needs some credit. They are, what, 16 deep with guys starting at huge clubs? They were just better. Frankly, I was happy that we created a number of reasonable half chances throughout and that despite the shot disparity, it wasn't entirely one way traffic.


Belgium gets all the credit and JK gets some criticism for being too defensive. Wondo is not a striker at this level but at least he gave us another attacking option. I was surprised when he feature basically another 4-5-1. I have said this before, we should NEVER start Bedoya & Zusi together, one or the other but never together.

EKneezy
Atlanta
Post #214
Tuesday July 1, 2014 11:46pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 3,191
I came for the hilarious overreactions

What a goal from Green

Wonderful performance from Yedlin and Beasley

Thanks USMNT what a run. We weren't even supposed to get out of the group but people will still complain

Dont ever doubt Tim Howard friggin ridiculous performance

soccerboy-1983
vicenza, italy
Post #215
Tuesday July 1, 2014 11:47pm

Joined Nov 2013
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Original post from cleancutimage

Belgium gets all the credit and JK gets some criticism for being too defensive. Wondo is not a striker at this level but at least he gave us another attacking option. I was surprised when he feature basically another 4-5-1. I have said this before, we should NEVER start Bedoya & Zusi together, one or the other but never together.


I agree i think that for us to move on and get better guys like wondo and bedoya and zusi cant be our best options

chillguy1992
Post #216
Tuesday July 1, 2014 11:48pm

Joined May 2013
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Our lack of target forward killed us in this game. Not bringing a like for like replacement for jozy was the one major mistake i would say klinsmann made. Green scored a really nice goal yedlin played really well. I also think we should have played beckerman in this game cameron wasnt that bad but I think jones and bradley would have been more freed up with beckerman behind them. It also sucks the hamstring injuries had to accumulate we lost altidore and johnson 2 big pieces to the team for this game. I would say klinsmann and those did players did a great job of battling. People need to be realistic with their expectations. The us is not at the level to constantly attack belgium. However the future is very bright klinsmann has shown an uncanny belief in picking out players and the players have responded to him. I think klinsmann tactically did the best he possibly could. His substitutions were very good. Remember if wondo doesnt mishit that chance we would have been talking about beating belgium a team that is loaded with talent all over the field.

cudevil
Post #217
Tuesday July 1, 2014 11:50pm

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Original post from cleancutimage

Belgium gets all the credit and JK gets some criticism for being too defensive. Wondo is not a striker at this level but at least he gave us another attacking option. I was surprised when he feature basically another 4-5-1. I have said this before, we should NEVER start Bedoya & Zusi together, one or the other but never together.


But I don't think he was too defensive. Certainly not initially. He brought on Wondo and dropped Dempsey to get more possession, and it worked for a bit. It was a necessary change because we were getting overrun in the midfield.

Consider that this was our B+ team with FabJo and Jozy. I don't think you can have too many complaints about JK.

soccerboy-1983
vicenza, italy
Post #218
Tuesday July 1, 2014 11:53pm

Joined Nov 2013
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So the usa is out of it. So my oick to win the worl cup is colombia

cleancutimage
Post #219
Tuesday July 1, 2014 11:55pm

Joined Oct 2013
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Original post from soccerboy-1983

I agree i think that for us to move on and get better guys like wondo and bedoya and zusi cant be our best options


I feel this is the last World Cup that will feature kids that played in the college system. Yedlin may be the only holdover. Our youth coaches must watch more technical teams and our parents must do a better job at allow their kids to learn the technical game. Teach our kids to play out the back and groom our kids to be soccer players not play soccer until they get into high school and then play more popular American sports.

cleancutimage
Post #220
Tuesday July 1, 2014 11:56pm

Joined Oct 2013
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To add to that, I think recruiting German-American was the best thing we could have done because those kids grew up only knowing football.

Dimo
Post #221
Tuesday July 1, 2014 11:56pm

Joined Nov 2013
Total Posts: 277
All these hamstring injuries and you have to wonder if JK over trained the boys. Bradley has been so disappointing. He moves to MLS before the wc and I'm not saying that the MLS is the reason his play dipped. But now he gave critics the opportunity to place blame. I really feel for Jozy. You saw him standing up off the bench. This was his world cup and he had to miss it because of a stupid injury.

Jzaval01
Post #222
Tuesday July 1, 2014 11:58pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 3,315
Im so pissed by the injuries WHY we need explanations as to why that kept happening.

soccerboy-1983
vicenza, italy
Post #223
Tuesday July 1, 2014 11:59pm

Joined Nov 2013
Total Posts: 306
Original post from cleancutimage

I feel this is the last World Cup that will feature kids that played in the college system. Yedlin may be the only holdover. Our youth coaches must watch more technical teams and our parents must do a better job at allow their kids to learn the technical game. Teach our kids to play out the back and groom our kids to be soccer players not play soccer until they get into high school and then play more popular American sports.


I agree living here in germany i see this every day the way kids are brought up learning the game is just so different

cleancutimage
Post #224
Tuesday July 1, 2014 11:59pm

Joined Oct 2013
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Original post from cudevil

But I don't think he was too defensive. Certainly not initially. He brought on Wondo and dropped Dempsey to get more possession, and it worked for a bit. It was a necessary change because we were getting overrun in the midfield.

Consider that this was our B+ team with FabJo and Jozy. I don't think you can have too many complaints about JK.


I cannot completely blame JK because he isn't the one playing. We obviously need to be able to play out the back, which we can't at this level. We need a player who can deliver that finally ball other than Bradley, who was poor for most of this competition. Klinsmann put out the best team he could with the pool he was given, yes but I feel like Mix could have done more than Bedoya or Zusi even out of position. He would at least be a better distributor. Zusi is useless if he doesn't have time to pick out a cross. He was getting picked left and right because he cannot dribble and ran out of ideas.

cudevil
Post #225
Wednesday July 2, 2014 12:03am

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 1,007
Random notes:

Yedlin-seems more fit to be our first true winger than a RB. Was gassed by the end. He had probably the best crosses for the US this tournament. He might have made himself some money this WC.

Green-The finish was great, but the movement off the ball is where you really see the difference in tactical development from some of the younger US guys and those playing abroad.

Beasley-Great game today.

Gonzo-Played two excellent games back to back. Only complaint was that he went walkabout a few times and it almost bit us.

Timmy-Best performance in US history? Only Keller against Brazil is even close in my opinion.

Bradley-much better today. Definitely not the guy to play as the CAM though.

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