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MSantoine
Post #1
Monday June 9, 2014 3:24pm

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There is some factual evidence of MLS gaining respect worldwide, and not just by MLS blinded/US blinded fanboys. MLS sent 11 players to other countries world cup teams. The only domestic leagues that sent more were the big 4, Portugal, France, and Turkey. MLS sent more non-americans to the world cup then the Eredivisie did Non-dutch players. We sent as many as MX and Russia. MLS is represented by two different South American teams, one being Brazil. Defoe (England) and Martins (Nigeria) both also made the cut. By 2018 I wouldn't be surprised if MLS moves up to number 6 in the world (big 4 plus france) when it comes to world cup caliber players.

Know Nothing
Post #2
Monday June 9, 2014 9:04pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 1,617
Original post from MSantoine

There is some factual evidence of MLS gaining respect worldwide, and not just by MLS blinded/US blinded fanboys. MLS sent 11 players to other countries world cup teams. The only domestic leagues that sent more were the big 4, Portugal, France, and Turkey. MLS sent more non-americans to the world cup then the Eredivisie did Non-dutch players. We sent as many as MX and Russia. MLS is represented by two different South American teams, one being Brazil. Defoe (England) and Martins (Nigeria) both also made the cut. By 2018 I wouldn't be surprised if MLS moves up to number 6 in the world (big 4 plus france) when it comes to world cup caliber players.


Gaining respect? On the surface it looks impressive, but when you consider that 7 of the 11 are from either Costa Rica or Honduras, countries within our own qualifying region with leagues slightly lower than the MLS then your statement starts to fall apart. And the Brazilian player sent by MLS is a goalkeeper.

That being said the MLS is a very diverse league, which is a good thing as different cultures and styles of play are being represented.

BTW, I am not targeting you MSantoine, I just have found your latest posts to be quite sensational in a sci-fi kind of way.

AmericanFootball
Post #3
Friday July 25, 2014 1:24am

Joined Jul 2014
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There is no exponential growth in soccer because the lack of consistent viewership throughout the league. The amount of viewers the MLS gets is lack luster compare to the premiere sports in the USA.

Dave
Post #4
Friday July 25, 2014 3:02am

Joined Jul 2014
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Original post from AmericanFootball

There is no exponential growth in soccer because the lack of consistent viewership throughout the league. The amount of viewers the MLS gets is lack luster compare to the premiere sports in the USA.


The "Premiere Sports in the USA" have been around as Professional Leagues for longer than most people's life Expectancy. While Soccer in the US had a failed league (late 70's early 80's)...and then started again in the mid/late 90's. Give it time.

As for the amount of viewers the MLS gets being "Lack Luster" compared to your Premiere sports....you can chalk a big part of that up to the TV coverage/contracts.
Very few matches are televised on basic channels (ESPN, ABC, CBS, Fox, etc...). Most are only aired on premium cable (NBCS, MLS Package, etc). This makes it difficult to get a lot of viewers.

As TV coverage becomes more accessible to viewers the league will continue to grow. As our teams do better in competitions (WC, Copa America, CONCACAF Championships League, etc...) the more interest there will be in MLS and the more viewers it will get.

Right now the top 4 leagues in the US are Football, Basketball, Baseball, and Hockey. MLS will likely catch Hockey in the next 5 years...Hockey is really only big in northern states or during the playoffs. And baseball in the next 15-20...baseball games are soooo slow. After that it will be hard to judge....a prolonged player strike...a major scandal...could unseat the top 2 sports, but at the same time something similar could crash MLS as well.

USAGunner
West Palm Beach
Post #5
Friday July 25, 2014 1:12pm

Joined Jul 2013
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MLS will catch MLB in less than 15-20 years. Baseball numbers are TERRIBLE, and going down.

Baseball has to do something and fast to remain relevant.

Right now it's the big 2 (NFL/NBA), the other 3 (NHL/MLB/NASCAR) and the rest (MLS/WNBA/etc).

MLS will make the jump to the 2nd tier shortly.
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TJ Watch
Oregon, USA
Post #6
Saturday August 9, 2014 7:52pm

Joined Aug 2014
Total Posts: 3
Median Salary MLS: Portland Timbers, 3.7 million
Median Salary EPL: Everton, 118 million (converted) - 32 times higher
So, what might a match between Timbers v. Everton look like ???
Or Seattle v. Everton?

blaise213
Post #7
Saturday August 9, 2014 7:55pm

Joined Sep 2012
Total Posts: 2,924
MLS wont be shit until they get better stadiums...

The latest renditions and 20,000 seating capacities are a joke.

I hope Sacramento comes into the league and sets the bar at 40,000

stone88
Post #8
Sunday October 26, 2014 10:46pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 1,513
http://www.socceramerica.com/article/61143/ml...

Looks like MLS set to break the avg attendance again this year, and push past the 19k mark.

Edit: The guys over at Bigsoccer saying the VAN Dallas game pushed MLS average attendance over the 19k mark for the year. Highest in history, with only three games left in the regular season. This is really great news!

I bet next year we easily see avg attendance hit above the 20k mark. With San Jose's new 18k stadium, the disbanding bottom dwellers CHV-USA, and NYCFC and Orlando City coming into the league!

Jzaval01
Post #9
Sunday October 26, 2014 11:05pm

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 3,315
Next MLS season is going to be even crazier.
-You are going to have Dynamo and Sporting playing for the west conference possibly Making the West that much more tougher and forcing teams to have much more quality
-NYCFC and Orlando sure to be top teams with the money being invested plus having Revs, Crew, DC hopefully have East improving more after alot of teams falling short of expectations. NYCFC and Orlando will also sure force that case.

Not to mention the increase of salary cap question is how much more?
Brace yourself for an even more tighter season

dunlopp9987
Post #10
Sunday October 26, 2014 11:56pm

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 2,642
Original post from Jzaval01

Next MLS season is going to be even crazier.
-You are going to have Dynamo and Sporting playing for the west conference possibly Making the West that much more tougher and forcing teams to have much more quality
-NYCFC and Orlando sure to be top teams with the money being invested plus having Revs, Crew, DC hopefully have East improving more after alot of teams falling short of expectations. NYCFC and Orlando will also sure force that case.

Not to mention the increase of salary cap question is how much more?
Brace yourself for an even more tighter season


Yeah, just like Toronto after they invested all that money...
COYB!!
Jzaval01
Post #11
Monday October 27, 2014 12:14am

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 3,315
Original post from dunlopp9987

Yeah, just like Toronto after they invested all that money...


Yeah... too bad they dont have an experienced quality coach like Jason Kreis for NYCFC or an already strong core team set up like Orlando.
Toronto was never going to be like an LA Galaxy this season I mean they were just a team put together before the season (Bradley Gilberto and Defoe) it's like Seattle last season when they brought Dempsey. Now how are they (Seattle) doing?
Toronto get a quality coach and they can do damage with some off season additions

hamsamwich
Post #12
Monday October 27, 2014 12:18am

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 3,140
I also think NYCFC will be good, as well as Orlando. The East is wide open. The attendances will continue to grow next year, I hope to see more visiting fans at Toyota Park, I will give KC credit for bringing the most fans to Chicago. A shoutout to the Portland fans, they brought more than I expected for such a long trip.

dunlopp9987
Post #13
Monday October 27, 2014 2:54am

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 2,642
Original post from Jzaval01

Yeah... too bad they dont have an experienced quality coach like Jason Kreis for NYCFC or an already strong core team set up like Orlando.
Toronto was never going to be like an LA Galaxy this season I mean they were just a team put together before the season (Bradley Gilberto and Defoe) it's like Seattle last season when they brought Dempsey. Now how are they (Seattle) doing?
Toronto get a quality coach and they can do damage with some off season additions


I mean...your point was that NYCFC and Orlando were going to be top teams because of the financial investment. I was responding to that insinuation, not anything else regarding the teams.
COYB!!
Jzaval01
Post #14
Monday October 27, 2014 3:01am

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 3,315
Original post from dunlopp9987

I mean...your point was that NYCFC and Orlando were going to be top teams because of the financial investment. I was responding to that insinuation, not anything else regarding the teams.


my bad then. I should have been more detailed in my statement. Investment is just one reason why they can be top east teams. Takes more then money to be successful in MLS. Toronto and Seattle (last season) proved that

MSantoine
Post #15
Monday October 27, 2014 3:23am

Joined Nov 2012
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One interesting stat that shows the parity in mls. Seattle was the only team to win more than 50% of there games. Big leagues usually have 4-5. It shows that there are no easy games in MLS.

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