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db707
Post #61
Wednesday July 16, 2014 1:56pm

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Considering some of the dreck Fulham trotted out at center back last year, Besler would be a definite upgrade. It's a gamble at his age though, to go the Championship and seek to get one of 3 promotion spots with a club that is in significant transition.

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #62
Wednesday July 16, 2014 5:01pm

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Original post from db707

Considering some of the dreck Fulham trotted out at center back last year, Besler would be a definite upgrade. It's a gamble at his age though, to go the Championship and seek to get one of 3 promotion spots with a club that is in significant transition.


True, but getting in early on that transition is a good way to getting yourself a longer deal. He's the kind of solid, consistent player that Hangeland was for them...the kind of CB you can build your backline around.

db707
Post #63
Wednesday July 16, 2014 7:05pm

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Original post from recycledhumans

True, but getting in early on that transition is a good way to getting yourself a longer deal. He's the kind of solid, consistent player that Hangeland was for them...the kind of CB you can build your backline around.


Granted and well noted, my point is more that it's a little more on the risky side, but really in terms of playing time, almost any move will be. If he does play well and establish himself in the 1st team there, there is higher potential reward. He needs to play though (from career and NT perspective); if Brooks breaks out and Besler is sitting half the time, Brooks could overtake him quickly. As a Fulham fan I have to recuse myself from this point!

Know Nothing
Post #64
Wednesday July 16, 2014 7:27pm

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Of the two options I think Fulham is the better of the two. Sunderland will presumably be in another relegation scrap so they will presumably opt for experience over potential when the going gets tough and if Besler does not start off well then he will sit.

Fulham is a rebuilding team with a good young crop coming through the ranks (if they can hold on to them). The Championship will further toughen up Besler as it is a physical league but Fulham will try to play the right way and should be back in the PL in a year or two.

admsghs27
Post #65
Wednesday July 16, 2014 8:13pm

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Sunderland will be the best choice because he will be in epl and going up against better players than in the championship. And he will start right of the bat for sunderland after their horrible season.

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #66
Wednesday July 16, 2014 8:14pm

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Original post from db707

Granted and well noted, my point is more that it's a little more on the risky side, but really in terms of playing time, almost any move will be. If he does play well and establish himself in the 1st team there, there is higher potential reward. He needs to play though (from career and NT perspective); if Brooks breaks out and Besler is sitting half the time, Brooks could overtake him quickly. As a Fulham fan I have to recuse myself from this point!


To be fair - Besler at 31 (in 2018), barring any unforeseen issues/injuries, is a lock for Russia. He's got almost nothing to do but keep up his current level and get paid well.

Original post from Know Nothing

Of the two options I think Fulham is the better of the two. Sunderland will presumably be in another relegation scrap so they will presumably opt for experience over potential when the going gets tough and if Besler does not start off well then he will sit.

Fulham is a rebuilding team with a good young crop coming through the ranks (if they can hold on to them). The Championship will further toughen up Besler as it is a physical league but Fulham will try to play the right way and should be back in the PL in a year or two.


+1

Fulham has the dough to buy good young players, even if the good young players they already have decide to jump ship...They'll be able to transition back to the PL more easily than a lot of Championship clubs, and I doubt they'll take more than a season to get back there.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #67
Wednesday July 16, 2014 9:21pm

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Staying with KC is the best choice.

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #68
Wednesday July 16, 2014 9:28pm

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Original post from 2tone

Staying with KC is the best choice.


If i was really worried about his ability to maintain his form/fitness, I'd completely agree...but as I said, he's locked in for 2018 so he might as well get himself a payday for a while before then.

admsghs27
Post #69
Wednesday July 16, 2014 10:11pm

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Don't think Besler is a lock yet for 2018. That's what I thought back in 2010 with bocanegra and Cherundolo. Defenders and other players come out of nowhere. I don't think many people knew who besler was in 2010.

MSantoine
Post #70
Wednesday July 16, 2014 11:24pm

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People need to remember that now is the perfect time to take a risk. Next World Cup is 4 years out. Say he transfers to Sunderland and becomes a bench warmer. He can leave and come back to mls in 2015 or 2016 and still be back in us pool for 2017-18

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #71
Thursday July 17, 2014 1:48pm

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Who do we really see as being ready and able to overtake him in the pool by then? I'm not saying we don't have good talent coming up, but unless Besler (I expect Gonzo will) loses a step or two in pace a la Gooch, I don't see anyone supplanting that starting spot. Unlike Boca, he and even Gonzo won't be quite as old...

richieJkulesaNY
Post #72
Thursday July 17, 2014 1:49pm

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Original post from recycledhumans

Who do we really see as being ready and able to overtake him in the pool by then? I'm not saying we don't have good talent coming up, but unless Besler (I expect Gonzo will) loses a step or two in pace a la Gooch, I don't see anyone supplanting that starting spot. Unlike Boca, he and even Gonzo won't be quite as old...


John Anthony Brooks.

Edit: This is assuming Besler stays put at KC.

SiteBomb621
Post #73
Thursday July 17, 2014 1:52pm

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Just read an article that JK has known about AJ's apparent bad ankle injury well before the USMNT camp even took place. How can you preach being 100% fit and then bring someone who is not on all cylinders? I hate JK so much lol.. he makes the oddest decisions and the US still praises every thing he does grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.....

kjperuch
Post #74
Thursday July 17, 2014 2:28pm

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Confirmed by Greg Seltzer, Aston Villa also have an interest in Besler.

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #75
Thursday July 17, 2014 2:48pm

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I like Brooks too, and really hope that he gets the starting spot in 2018...but Besler has more experience and will still be physically viable, unlike the options we had with XP for this cycle.

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