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Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #16
Thursday May 1, 2014 11:17pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 872
Original post from richieJkulesaNY

Hey man, Im with you. Not necessarily because of that game, but because he's not better than the players we have.

Much respect to Tim for fighting his way onto the starting lineup and all, but this is a fans choice award. Players like Tim resonate with fans, especially on bad teams.

For everybody that thinks he's gotten better, I highly doubt you've watched consistently enough to make that statement. He's a versatile defender on a middling English Championship club thats hovered around the bottom echelon all season. His coaches just play him where he's needed, meaning he's not really a first choice player at those spots.


Bolton defender/midfielder Tim Ream completed a Player of the Season double on Thursday, adding the official club award to the supporters' prize he picked up on Tuesday.

Ream got voted player of the year by the fans and his team. Pretty much all you need to know bro. Manager didn't even rate him at the start of the season. He didn't even play until week 5.

Scout92
Lone Star State(Gun State)
Post #17
Thursday May 1, 2014 11:43pm

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 1,424
http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2014/05...

Well done. Jurgen must call him.

logicoverall
Post #18
Friday May 2, 2014 2:48am

Joined Feb 2013
Total Posts: 222
We'll see. Maybe he'll get the call for the 30 man roster, but I wouldn't hold your breath.

I see these as our viable defensive options who can play

LB: FJ, Beasley, Parkhurst. With the added possibility of Chandler if he's called in.

CB: Goodson, Gonzo, Besler, Parkhurst, Edu, Cameron, (Possibly Brooks, Onyewu, or Orozco?)

RB: Evans, Cameron, FJ, Parkhurst, Possibly Chandler, possibly Yedlin

There's so much interchange with the guys who have actually been in the national team picture in the last several years that Ream will have a really hard time making the roster. Do I love the thought of Gonzo as a starting CB? No. He wouldn't start if it were up to me. But I don't think I like Ream there any more than Gonzo.

He's playing for an average/sub-par team in England, and provided a lot of utility to them this year. Well done for that, but I just can't see a world where I want Ream to be a starter for the USMNT. Probably just my preference, but I really doubt many of you watched the Bolton Wanderers on the reg this year to be an authority on Tim Ream's viability as a defensive option for the USMNT. The last few appearances he made for the USMNT were awful, and if he makes the roster and his next few appearances are awful, we are home after 3 games.

richieJkulesaNY
Post #19
Friday May 2, 2014 5:25pm

Joined Jun 2012
Total Posts: 1,016
Original post from Kamphgruppe

Bolton defender/midfielder Tim Ream completed a Player of the Season double on Thursday, adding the official club award to the supporters' prize he picked up on Tuesday.

Ream got voted player of the year by the fans and his team. Pretty much all you need to know bro. Manager didn't even rate him at the start of the season. He didn't even play until week 5.


And what exactly does that mean?

cudevil
Post #20
Friday May 2, 2014 5:45pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 989
Original post from richieJkulesaNY

Hey man, Im with you. Not necessarily because of that game, but because he's not better than the players we have.

Much respect to Tim for fighting his way onto the starting lineup and all, but this is a fans choice award. Players like Tim resonate with fans, especially on bad teams.

For everybody that thinks he's gotten better, I highly doubt you've watched consistently enough to make that statement. He's a versatile defender on a middling English Championship club thats hovered around the bottom echelon all season. His coaches just play him where he's needed, meaning he's not really a first choice player at those spots.


That's a really, really weird statement.

richieJkulesaNY
Post #21
Friday May 2, 2014 8:11pm

Joined Jun 2012
Total Posts: 1,016
Original post from cudevil

That's a really, really weird statement.


He cracked the starting lineup due to injuries. Throughout the season, he's played multiple positions across the backline and CM, because at that time, thats where the coaches needed him. His coach likes his qualities in the middle of the field, but apparently isnt vital enough to supplant the regular starter.

Dont misinterpret my comments to say I think he's a bad player, because thats not what I think. He's the player of the year for a 14th place club that never put up a real threat for the top half. I just think we're reading too much into this award.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #22
Friday May 2, 2014 8:34pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,450
He was awarded fan player of the year, and Club player of the year by his peers.

Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #23
Friday May 2, 2014 8:42pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 872
Original post from richieJkulesaNY

He cracked the starting lineup due to injuries. Throughout the season, he's played multiple positions across the backline and CM, because at that time, thats where the coaches needed him. His coach likes his qualities in the middle of the field, but apparently isnt vital enough to supplant the regular starter.

Dont misinterpret my comments to say I think he's a bad player, because thats not what I think. He's the player of the year for a 14th place club that never put up a real threat for the top half. I just think we're reading too much into this award.


He wasn't a starter at the beginning of the season. He got a start week 5 due to injury. He started every game from week 5 on. He was used in multiple positions because of his ability to play multiple positions at a high level. The Championship is often compared to MLS for it's quality. We have players on the USMNT who play for mid level MLS teams. Considering our defensive woes I think it worth the time to bring him in the 30 and take a good look .

skangles
DC
Post #24
Friday May 2, 2014 9:11pm

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 5,443
Ives has an article up about how Ream and Chandler "stand good chances" to make the preliminary roster. I'm not sure if this is just his opinion or if he has an inside source that tipped him off that this is likely.

cudevil
Post #25
Friday May 2, 2014 9:12pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 989
Original post from richieJkulesaNY

He cracked the starting lineup due to injuries. Throughout the season, he's played multiple positions across the backline and CM, because at that time, thats where the coaches needed him. His coach likes his qualities in the middle of the field, but apparently isnt vital enough to supplant the regular starter.

Dont misinterpret my comments to say I think he's a bad player, because thats not what I think. He's the player of the year for a 14th place club that never put up a real threat for the top half. I just think we're reading too much into this award.


The conclusion that because he's played multiple positions, he's not really a first choice guy anywhere just doesn't follow. It could very well mean that he's a first choice guy at multiple spots, but the coaches simply move him where he's needed most on a given day.

richieJkulesaNY
Post #26
Friday May 2, 2014 10:55pm

Joined Jun 2012
Total Posts: 1,016
Original post from cudevil

The conclusion that because he's played multiple positions, he's not really a first choice guy anywhere just doesn't follow. It could very well mean that he's a first choice guy at multiple spots, but the coaches simply move him where he's needed most on a given day.


No doubt, you can look at it from both ways. But the coach states his best qualities are form the middle of field, and he doesn't play him there. To me that means he's not vital enough centrally, but he's decent enough to cover as an outside back.

I just don't see what the point is of bringing in another borderline shaky defender when he's not better than what we have. And again, I find it funny that nobody was talking about Ream until this dopey award came up.

dunlopp9987
Post #27
Friday May 2, 2014 11:13pm

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 2,642
Original post from richieJkulesaNY

No doubt, you can look at it from both ways. But the coach states his best qualities are form the middle of field, and he doesn't play him there. To me that means he's not vital enough centrally, but he's decent enough to cover as an outside back.

I just don't see what the point is of bringing in another borderline shaky defender when he's not better than what we have. And again, I find it funny that nobody was talking about Ream until this dopey award came up.


http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2014/03/17/11...

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cudevil
Post #28
Saturday May 3, 2014 12:30am

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 989
Original post from richieJkulesaNY

No doubt, you can look at it from both ways. But the coach states his best qualities are form the middle of field, and he doesn't play him there. To me that means he's not vital enough centrally, but he's decent enough to cover as an outside back.

I just don't see what the point is of bringing in another borderline shaky defender when he's not better than what we have. And again, I find it funny that nobody was talking about Ream until this dopey award came up.


It means the gap between Ream and a back up CB isn't as great as the gap between the starting outside back and the alternative to Ream. It doesn't mean that Ream isn't a first choice player at CB.

And it doesn't sound as if you have seen Ream play lately and are simply going off reports (not just reports-your interpretation of the reports). To conclude from second hand accounts that Ream is "not better than what we have" is a bit of jump. Let's compare Ream to DMB. I like DMB, but he's not a natural LB. Do you really think there is no chance that Ream could be an upgrade defensively over DMB? Not to mention likely being better on the ball?

Kamphgruppe
Michigan
Post #29
Saturday May 3, 2014 12:52am

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 872
Original post from richieJkulesaNY

No doubt, you can look at it from both ways. But the coach states his best qualities are form the middle of field, and he doesn't play him there. To me that means he's not vital enough centrally, but he's decent enough to cover as an outside back.

I just don't see what the point is of bringing in another borderline shaky defender when he's not better than what we have. And again, I find it funny that nobody was talking about Ream until this dopey award came up.


He has been on the radar for awhile. The awards are just an evidence of what we have been looking for from him.

cleancutimage
Post #30
Sunday November 23, 2014 5:15pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 1,309
What did you all think of what Ream's club manager said about the US Nat'l Team specifically JK? Agree? Disagree? I feel he has a beef but to see that is one of the reason people no longer want to play for their national team anymore is ridiculous. You either want to play or you don't. I'm not in Ream's shoes but for a fringe player like Ream that availability is better than none. He probably didn't such much of an issue with it.

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