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2tone
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Post #1
Thursday April 24, 2014 4:47am

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I am going to compile a what if 23 WC 2014 roster. Now this may make some of you mad or sad. Discuss how you think this team would fair in the USMNT's group of death this summer if some of these players would never have been injured or had made good on their potential:

GK: Rimando, Guzan, Howard

Defense: Dolo, Chandler, Cameron, Gooch, Besler, Fabian, Beasley

CM's: Bradley, Holden, Jones, Szetela

Attackers: Deuce, Lando, Adu, Davies, Altidore, Johannsson, Zusi, Green, Bedoya

Just think if Davies would have never got in that car. Where would he be as a player right now?

Imagine if Adu would have really caught on with Benfica?

If only Szetela wouldn't have gone crazy as a youth.

If only Holden didn't get crunched into by Jonny Evans. You imagine he would be with a better team in the EPL.

If only Dolo's knees could have held out for one more year.

How about if Cameron was playing as a CB instead of a RB for Stoke?

What if Gooch didn't get injured, would he be playing as a CB for AC Milan right now?

What do you guys think? Would you be much more relaxed about the USMNT's chances this summer if things would have gone differently for these players?

433
Post #2
Thursday April 24, 2014 6:05am

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There's an old Yiddish phrase which roughly translates to: "If my grandmother had balls, she'd be my grandfather."

But granting your hypothetical, IF all those players had been healthy and successful then there probably would be dozens of stories about how amazing it is that US players never get injured. And Jurgen's yoga focus would've been all the rage. And the US still wouldn't have been favorites to progress from their group at the WC.

snipes87
Cleveland, Ohio
Post #3
Thursday April 24, 2014 6:23am

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Can we add Rossi and Subotic to this? Or even just Subotic. Could you imagine a legit CB back there in front of Timmy?
If you don't love it, leave it, USA #1
chris_thebassplayer
San Jose
Post #4
Thursday April 24, 2014 6:50am

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Just Holden and Davies for me...

admsghs27
Post #5
Thursday April 24, 2014 7:53am

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Another Dumb thread!!

Rey Regicide
Post #6
Thursday April 24, 2014 11:36am

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 2,001
Original post from 2tone

I am going to compile a what if 23 WC 2014 roster. Now this may make some of you mad or sad. Discuss how you think this team would fair in the USMNT's group of death this summer if some of these players would never have been injured or had made good on their potential:

GK: Rimando, Guzan, Howard

Defense: Dolo, Chandler, Cameron, Gooch, Besler, Fabian, Beasley

CM's: Bradley, Holden, Jones, Szetela

Attackers: Deuce, Lando, Adu, Davies, Altidore, Johannsson, Zusi, Green, Bedoya

Just think if Davies would have never got in that car. Where would he be as a player right now?

Who's your starting 11?

Imagine if Adu would have really caught on with Benfica?

If only Szetela wouldn't have gone crazy as a youth.

If only Holden didn't get crunched into by Jonny Evans. You imagine he would be with a better team in the EPL.

If only Dolo's knees could have held out for one more year.

How about if Cameron was playing as a CB instead of a RB for Stoke?

What if Gooch didn't get injured, would he be playing as a CB for AC Milan right now?

What do you guys think? Would you be much more relaxed about the USMNT's chances this summer if things would have gone differently for these players?


MSantoine
Post #7
Thursday April 24, 2014 2:19pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 3,723
Original post from 2tone

I am going to compile a what if 23 WC 2014 roster. Now this may make some of you mad or sad. Discuss how you think this team would fair in the USMNT's group of death this summer if some of these players would never have been injured or had made good on their potential:

GK: Rimando, Guzan, Howard

Defense: Dolo, Chandler, Cameron, Gooch, Besler, Fabian, Beasley

CM's: Bradley, Holden, Jones, Szetela

Attackers: Deuce, Lando, Adu, Davies, Altidore, Johannsson, Zusi, Green, Bedoya

Just think if Davies would have never got in that car. Where would he be as a player right now?

Imagine if Adu would have really caught on with Benfica?

If only Szetela wouldn't have gone crazy as a youth.

If only Holden didn't get crunched into by Jonny Evans. You imagine he would be with a better team in the EPL.

If only Dolo's knees could have held out for one more year.

How about if Cameron was playing as a CB instead of a RB for Stoke?

What if Gooch didn't get injured, would he be playing as a CB for AC Milan right now?

What do you guys think? Would you be much more relaxed about the USMNT's chances this summer if things would have gone differently for these players?


I think you have to have Brooks in there for CB. Before his maturity issues and injuries he was looking lke a top bundesliga starter as a 20 year old

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #8
Thursday April 24, 2014 3:09pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,652
Original post from admsghs27

Another Dumb thread!!


Pray tell what's dumb about it? IF you don't want to add something positive then don't comment simple as that.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #9
Thursday April 24, 2014 3:12pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,652
Original post from 433

There's an old Yiddish phrase which roughly translates to: "If my grandmother had balls, she'd be my grandfather."

But granting your hypothetical, IF all those players had been healthy and successful then there probably would be dozens of stories about how amazing it is that US players never get injured. And Jurgen's yoga focus would've been all the rage. And the US still wouldn't have been favorites to progress from their group at the WC.


Thanks for your sarcasm.

Lilshmike
Post #10
Thursday April 24, 2014 3:16pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 1,576
CB
Onyewu - injury declined career, stopped player growth
Gonzalez - injury paused development, career declined
Neven Subotic (plays for Serbia)
Brede Hangeland (plays for Norway)

RB
Cherundolo - injury ended career
Spector - injuries problematic for career and development
Gotoku Sakai (plays for Japan)

LB
Simon Poulsen (plays for Denmark)

CM
Holden - injury ruined career
Roger Espinoza (plays for Honduras)
Osvaldo Alonso - still eligible, but Cuba won't do paperwork

ST
Davies - injury ruined career
Yura Movsisyan (plays for Armenia)
Vedad Ibisevic (plays for Bosnia)
Guiseppi Rossi (plays for Italy) - assuming no injuries

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #11
Thursday April 24, 2014 3:22pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,652
Original post from Lilshmike

CB
Onyewu - injury declined career, stopped player growth
Gonzalez - injury paused development, career declined
Neven Subotic (plays for Serbia)
Brede Hangeland (plays for Norway)

RB
Cherundolo - injury ended career
Spector - injuries problematic for career and development
Gotoku Sakai (plays for Japan)

LB
Simon Poulsen (plays for Denmark)

CM
Holden - injury ruined career
Roger Espinoza (plays for Honduras)
Osvaldo Alonso - still eligible, but Cuba won't do paperwork

ST
Davies - injury ruined career
Yura Movsisyan (plays for Armenia)
Vedad Ibisevic (plays for Bosnia)
Guiseppi Rossi (plays for Italy) - assuming no injuries


Don't know if I would put Ibisevic and Movsisyan on here. Neither were US citizens, and neither wanted to spend the required time in the US to get US citizenship.

Lilshmike
Post #12
Thursday April 24, 2014 3:58pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 1,576
Original post from 2tone

Don't know if I would put Ibisevic and Movsisyan on here. Neither were US citizens, and neither wanted to spend the required time in the US to get US citizenship.


Movsisyan grew up in the US and holds citizenship.

Ibisevic did not have citizenship, but was 1 year from receiving it. Had we tried to get him around that time, he may have opted to stay in the country to get it. He stated that he would have played for the USMNT had we asked him to.

dunlopp9987
Post #13
Thursday April 24, 2014 4:05pm

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 2,648
Original post from admsghs27

Another Dumb thread!!


Can't be much dumber than the nonsense you post.
COYB!!
2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #14
Thursday April 24, 2014 5:29pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 10,652
Original post from Lilshmike

Movsisyan grew up in the US and holds citizenship.

Ibisevic did not have citizenship, but was 1 year from receiving it. Had we tried to get him around that time, he may have opted to stay in the country to get it. He stated that he would have played for the USMNT had we asked him to.


Movsisyan does not have citizenship. Regardless what Wiki says. He wanted to play for the US but did not have citizenship hence he decided to rep Armenia.

joey11
Post #15
Thursday April 24, 2014 6:43pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 284
Original post from Lilshmike

CB
Onyewu - injury declined career, stopped player growth
Gonzalez - injury paused development, career declined
Neven Subotic (plays for Serbia)
Brede Hangeland (plays for Norway)

RB
Cherundolo - injury ended career
Spector - injuries problematic for career and development
Gotoku Sakai (plays for Japan)

LB
Simon Poulsen (plays for Denmark)

CM
Holden - injury ruined career
Roger Espinoza (plays for Honduras)
Osvaldo Alonso - still eligible, but Cuba won't do paperwork

ST
Davies - injury ruined career
Yura Movsisyan (plays for Armenia)
Vedad Ibisevic (plays for Bosnia)
Guiseppi Rossi (plays for Italy) - assuming no injuries

i always ready through these "what if" threads and you're the first person to mention the one player i always think of and that's Hangeland! image him and Sobotic as the CB's! oh to dream!!!!!!!

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