RECAPS
EXTRA TIME
YANKS ABROAD LOCKER ROOM
 
dolcem
Post #1
Tuesday April 8, 2014 6:02am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,045
Let's start to consider what would happen if we crash and burn in Brazil this summer. Our defense is a mess (two decent fullbacks and horrible central defenders), we don't have a good CM pairing, our attacking midfield options are insipid (too old or not good enough), and our best striker isn't playing and our other is inexperienced and tired...and we got drawn into one of the hardest groups in recent World Cup history. It's a likely scenario.

While the results have been record-setting and footbalistically the team has improved leaps and bounds since the days of Coach Bruce and Coach Bob (instead of playing like an NCAA team we play like a mid-tier European side; we're tactically more evolved and we're more than just hard to beat), with the team available we'll get smoked and Klinsmann will be the scapegoat. He's a foreigner and an outsider to US soccer and most of the American public doesn't watch us outside of the World Cup (they'll watch this one though). Some segments of the media (most importantly, its figurehead, Alexi Lalas) aren't big fans of Klinsmann and the ensuing popular pressure will lead to his sacking.

As far as replacements to, options are limited (one thing Klinsmann critics ignore). I don't see the USSF having the know-how or desire to hire a foreigner manager (Klinsmann fell into our lap). Jason Kreis is tied up with NYCFC. Caleb Porter is not quite ready yet (one season at the professional level and struggled last time in the NT set-up) and just started his project at Portland. Frank Yallop is Canadian. That leaves us with our most likely choice, Sigi Schmid.

Who would you like to see take charge? Only relatively possible answers please (ie not Guardiola or Wenger). Here are my dream managers:

Marcelo Bielsa. Dude is an offensive genius. He has spent his career putting together teams that punch above their weight and fire on all cylinders when attacking. He took a mid-tier national team (not too much better than ours) and got them playing wonderful attacking soccer, leaving a lasting legacy on Chilean soccer (the national team, coached by another Argentine, plays the same way, and a lot of club teams are trying to imitate the style and are bringing in like-minded Argentine managers). He believes in the value of his work and only goes to teams that are interested in his vision, which sometimes means teams far less prestigious than his other job possibilities.

The USNT advanced a lot footbalistically over the past few years and began to start playing for more than the result. Klinsmann, whose specialty is man-management and motivation (a Pete Carrol type for those of you used to American sports), kept up the atmosphere of grit and determination. He was the perfect coach for our first step in the transition from traditional NCAA soccer to a more European game. A technocratic type like Quieroz would've been too big a change culturally. But Jurgen certainly isn't a tactical genius, even if he is a big improvement from his predecessors in that regard. Bielsa is the technician that could take us to the next level. We already have the team spirit and commitment part down (our players, including the dual-nationals that were integrated, bleed red, white, and blue), so let's focus on the footballing aspect of things. And Bielsa can bring us that Latin flair we're missing and will probably do a good job with the Liga MX players.

Other possibilities:
Carlos Quieroz, Sigi Schmidt, Carlos Bianchi, Raymond Domenech, and Bert van Marwijk
NO ONE GIVES A SHIT ABOUT WHAT LINEUP YOU USE IN FIFA
Chrisou101
Post #2
Tuesday April 8, 2014 6:23am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 560
Sigi Schmidt?! Hells no. Tactics are questionable and outdated.
I think Jason Kries or Peter Vermes might be perfect fits. Cuz they both play possession oriented and high pressure soccer.
I'm not sold on Raymond Domenech..... didn't he cause a French revolution in the squad during the world cup?
What about Andreas Hertzog? Should Klinsmann step down, Hertzog can provide continuity.
Anyways, the other options are not bad either.

admsghs27
Post #3
Tuesday April 8, 2014 6:38am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 3,142
Sigi Schmidt is German. So a German to another German ? For some reason I have a feeling Alexi Lalas will be our next coach.

dolcem
Post #4
Tuesday April 8, 2014 6:38am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,045
Original post from Chrisou101

Sigi Schmidt?! Hells no. Tactics are questionable and outdated.
I think Jason Kries or Peter Vermes might be perfect fits. Cuz they both play possession oriented and high pressure soccer.
I'm not sold on Raymond Domenech..... didn't he cause a French revolution in the squad during the world cup?
What about Andreas Hertzog? Should Klinsmann step down, Hertzog can provide continuity.
Anyways, the other options are not bad either.


First of all, Kreis isn't an option. He's not going to leave NYCFC before coaching a game for them. He could use some experience with big-time players first, so this'll be good for him. He'll definitely take over at some point in the future though.

Totally spaced on Vermes. He'd be a better choice than Schmid...but still inexperienced IMO. Schmid is better connected to the USSF though. It'll be one of the two, which is disappointing. They're so defensive and it'll undo the work we've tried to make in the other direction. And I hate the idea of picking a manager just because he's American. We should be trying to play a more advanced, European brand of football, not go back to MLS style. We have a team of European-caliber players so why not play that way?

South Africa was a disaster for France but they had some very dysfunctional personalities in the squad and you have to wonder about the lack of Frenchness of the team...I think it hurts team spirit and you wonder how much some of these guys care about France as a country.

Herzog would be an interesting choice and I want him to get involved with US soccer, but he's so inexperienced. I think some of my options are better, especially van Marwijk (he might be out of reach though).
NO ONE GIVES A SHIT ABOUT WHAT LINEUP YOU USE IN FIFA
Chrisou101
Post #5
Tuesday April 8, 2014 7:05am

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 560
I think Hertzog is pretty experienced, he was coach of the Austrian youth and senior team. To be fair Bob Bradley was inexperienced as well but he did wonders for the US team.

EKneezy
Post #6
Tuesday April 8, 2014 9:23am

Joined May 2013
Total Posts: 1,835
My guess is Vermes or another foreign coach. Vermes is cool with USSF and could be their main man after Kreis became coach of NYCFC. Or they could go the foreign coach route like they did Klinsmann who had a basic knowledge of American soccer.

Although we could leave Brazil with no points, Im not sure Klinsmann will be fired. His vision is just fleshing out and 2018 is a cycle where it could be realized.

Lilshmike
Post #7
Tuesday April 8, 2014 1:09pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 511
Klinsmann will be the coach next cycle. He is smart, and thats why he locked down an extension. If we crash and burn at the WC, he will still be the coach. Although it is very possible that we do that, I highly doubt that we crash and burn. We should finish in front of Ghana at least.

If I could have a choice of a new manager, WHO WAS REALISTIC TO GET, I would go with Michael Laudrup.

Rey Regicide
Post #8
Tuesday April 8, 2014 1:11pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 281
Yea, I just don't see Klinsmann being fired by Gulati, especially since if indeed a bad showing occurs, we have the 2011 gold cup, the ensuing confederations cup, and a possible copa america (are we still playing that thing?) to be able to perform. Also factor in the new breed that will be coming in, Klinsmann will again be the benefactor of a growing US MNT pool. Klinsmann is here to stay regardless of how he performs. I say it's more likely he willingly steps down as MNT and becomes head technical director, in which case he will appoint his successor.

Rey Regicide
Post #9
Tuesday April 8, 2014 1:12pm

Joined Sep 2013
Total Posts: 281
Keep in mind, the contract wasn't a power move by Klinsmann, it was by Gulati, if we get destroyed, and Klinsmann decides to leave, who's going to be interested in rehabbing our national team? This was US federation knowing they weren't in a strong position, and then taking the appropriate actions to keep what we have going.

Live490
Texas
Post #10
Tuesday April 8, 2014 1:50pm

Joined Mar 2013
Total Posts: 279
Bielsa, Martinez, or Lavolpe..

kjperuch
Post #11
Tuesday April 8, 2014 4:37pm

Joined Oct 2013
Total Posts: 120
Original post from Live490

Bielsa, Martinez, or Lavolpe..


Man I would love Bielsa. The guy doesn't take crap from anybody. I really wanted him over Klinsman to be honest. The Chilean national team is what it is today because of Bielsa. The man is a Genius.

navi8132
Post #12
Tuesday April 8, 2014 4:40pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 1,939
I hate coaches who "don't take crap from anybody." Why is an aggressive personality a positive motivator? It sure as hell never has been for me or anyone I personally know.

MSantoine
Post #13
Tuesday April 8, 2014 5:12pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 2,182
I'd love to see one the next coach come from the Holland set up. We've started to get our team playing that style and the next coach could get us there in 2018.

Regarding JK's extension I highly doubt that will stop anything. Likely it increased JK's buyout so he'll get some money but not a lot if we fire him. He probably did that because he'd be ok with coaching USA another cycle, it's probably his preferred job, but he knows there's a chance he wont be wanted back. It gives USA the option to keep him without losing him to another team (Austria, Switzerland, Germany) if a decent Euro job opens up.

navi8132
Post #14
Tuesday April 8, 2014 5:18pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 1,939
Germany would never want him again. There is still plenty of negative opinion on him there (coaching wise).

Lilshmike
Post #15
Tuesday April 8, 2014 7:22pm

Joined Oct 2012
Total Posts: 511
Original post from Rey Regicide

Keep in mind, the contract wasn't a power move by Klinsmann, it was by Gulati, if we get destroyed, and Klinsmann decides to leave, who's going to be interested in rehabbing our national team? This was US federation knowing they weren't in a strong position, and then taking the appropriate actions to keep what we have going.


+100. And just to add, that also goes both ways...

People around the world are taking note at how far we have come in so little time. Regardless of what anyone wants to say, Klinsmann has transformed our national team. We have had (statistically) the greatest team the US has ever had, and are looking like becoming an internationally recognized power (that term is relative) here in the not so distant future. We can thank Klinsmann for that.

If we can get out of the group stage at the WC, given that we have arguably the WORST team (man for man) in our group... yea... Klinsmann will be hailed as a genius and there is no way that teams wouldn't throw stupid cash at him to be their manager.

Not only that, but it will be 2 consecutive, and 3 out of the last 4, WCs where we made it out. With a squad that consists of TONS of MLS players, to have been able to continuously accomplish that, and to be on the fringe of what appears to be a major shift in the development of our talent pool (especially for the next 8-10 years or so)... clearly the US would be a much better team than we (and the rest of the world for that matter) once thought.

After implementing a system like he has done, IF the national team were to take such BIG steps forward... it may not be wise to change things up at such an important time cause it could cause the US to take a few steps back...

Page 1 of 2
1 2  Next »

Conor O'Brien could finally make his Austrian debut for Wiener Neustadt on Saturday.
RECENT POSTS
Europa qualification rolls on
No O'Brien debut this weekend
Dooley facing Azkal squad strife
USMNT ratings vs. Belgium