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Scout92
Lone Star State(Gun State)
Post #61
Tuesday January 22, 2013 8:25pm

Joined Dec 2012
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Yeah I bet the mls wont take anything less than 4 or 5mil.

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #62
Tuesday January 22, 2013 9:34pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,072
Agreed, but I'd be willing to let him go for that plus a cut of any future transfer deal, or that plus a player (love to see someone young with potential, like a Dawkins coming over to SJ).

Bshredder
Post #63
Tuesday January 22, 2013 10:35pm

Joined Aug 2011
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People are saying how poor he was last year and this is true. But he was playing hurt for most of the year and is not happy in Dallas.

The best thing in the world right now for Shea would be'

1) to get traded within MLS
2) get healthy
3) If he can start the year in his 2011 form, MLS will have no issues getting the $$ they want.

If Shea is playing at his 2011 level, he is worth more than Stoke's offer. If he's playing at his 2012 level, he is not worth what MLS wants.

It's tough to value a player like Shea right now who is coming off a season playing hurt as well as a significant foot surgery. Both Stoke and MLS can make a case as to where they value Shea. The only thing is that MLS holds the cards. If they feel he is worth more, they can just let him go out and prove it this season. But for that to happen, I think he needs to leave Dallas.

I'm not going to dump on MLS either. They have the right to play hardball for their players. People can say the system of having MLS in charge of the contracts as opposed to the clubs has merit but I understand it. In a time where most leagues have several teams with crappy finances and out of control debt, the MLS can't afford that. A little uniformity makes sense from a business perspective.

That being said, what is problematic with MLS's handling of the situation is that FCD and Stoke apparently reached an agreement only to have MLS kill the deal. Why even let Dallas negotiate? MLS should either negotiate themselves or give Dallas a mimimum transfer fee for Shea and then let them negotiate the deal with that condition. MLS being in charge is okay but some sort of communication needs to be better here. No question about.

A lot of American fans want Shea to make this jump to the EPL and that's fine. But remember this. Players who are playing well in MLS tend to do when they leave. Guys like Holden and Cameron were doing well when they left and went on to play well immediately for their new European teams. Players who are not playing well in MLS tend to do poorly when they leave the league. Look at Tim Ream, Chad Barrett, etc. They weren't playing well when they left MLS and have struggled at their new clubs. It's not really surprising.

But Shea isn't playing well right now, so is it the best time for him to move? I like it when players make big moves but timing is always important. I'd rather Shea be back to his old self before making the move.

I think American fans would generally like the idea of calling this deal off now to allow Shea to get his form back here. If he gets back to his 2011 self, then there will be no shortage of offers for him and most likely at a higher price. If Shea never returns to his 2011 form, then he wasn't going to make it in the EPL anyway.

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #64
Tuesday January 22, 2013 10:56pm

Joined Jul 2012
Total Posts: 4,670
I agree. If this deal doesn't go through, then I would like to see him traded somewhere in MLS. I would imagine there would be plenty of suitors willing to have Brek Shea for at least a year i.e. Galaxy and Seattle. He isn't a DP, so really I could see an MLS team get a trade done for him. And I do believe he will regain his form. His problems were playing injured last season.

tylercocinas
Post #65
Wednesday January 23, 2013 12:17am

Joined Aug 2012
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Shea's been a Young DP for a few months now. Really liking the Seattle suggestion though. I think he would do well there.

http://fcdnation.com/fc-dallas-news/brek-shea...

2tone
Ten-Towns
Post #66
Wednesday January 23, 2013 12:46am

Joined Jul 2012
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Original post from tylercocinas

Shea's been a Young DP for a few months now. Really liking the Seattle suggestion though. I think he would do well there.

http://fcdnation.com/fc-dallas-news/brek-shea...


Oh yeah. But young DP's are different than regular DP's.

Scout92
Lone Star State(Gun State)
Post #67
Wednesday January 23, 2013 12:54am

Joined Dec 2012
Total Posts: 948
Yeah id rather see an in form shea move to europe for the right price with the best team possible rather than for the stoke deal go threw..at his top form he could do better. If that means leaving dallas and getting traded so be it.

Bshredder
Post #68
Wednesday January 23, 2013 4:46pm

Joined Aug 2011
Total Posts: 1,459
The proposed transfer of Shea to Stoke this January is now dead.

Like I said above, it's probably for the best. He should get back to being healthy and playing well first before making a big jump. If he can dominate MLS like he did in 2011, he'll get a high price that will make everyone involved happy.

Not rocket science but players who are playing well in MLS tend to do the best when the transfer.

My suggestion: FC Dallas should trade Shea to another MLS team. They shouldn't ask for a quality player in return but rather a huge percentage of the sell-on price if Shea gets transferred from there.

Coach Kev
Savannah, GA
Post #69
Wednesday January 23, 2013 7:26pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 283
Original post from Bshredder
My suggestion: FC Dallas should trade Shea to another MLS team. They shouldn't ask for a quality player in return but rather a huge percentage of the sell-on price if Shea gets transferred from there.


I think this is the key. Dallas is a terrible place for him to develop
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recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #70
Wednesday January 23, 2013 10:10pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,072
Original post from Coach Kev

I think this is the key. Dallas is a terrible place for him to develop


Why do you say that? I think it's one of the better places, in terms of what's needed on the field.

Castillo is a ready-made replacement on the wing, but what he possesses in speec and acceleration, he lacks in the final ball and foot skills. I think Dallas' need for a strong left footed winger will create a good opportunity for him to continue his growth.

whyneverme
Post #71
Thursday January 24, 2013 12:05am

Joined Jan 2013
Total Posts: 25
Hmmmmm.... Maybe Columbus will try and deal Duka to Dallas for Shea? Aren't they both owned by the Hunts

recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #72
Thursday January 24, 2013 3:08pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,072
yes they are, and i wouldn't be entirely opposed to that move. gimmie some allocation dough and/or a draft spot or two and we're in business.

Coach Kev
Savannah, GA
Post #73
Thursday January 24, 2013 4:10pm

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 283
Original post from recycledhumans

Why do you say that? I think it's one of the better places, in terms of what's needed on the field.
He didn't develop there last year and seemed really frustrated there. It just doesn't seem to be a good fit for him.
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recycledhumans
DFWTX
Post #74
Thursday January 24, 2013 9:01pm

Joined Nov 2012
Total Posts: 1,072
to be fair, last year was extremely frustrating for everyone involved, but I can agree with most of your statement.

I do, however, have to take exception with the part about it not being a good fit for him. He's a local (ish) boy, so he's got lots of friends and family in the area, he's a bit of a local celebrity (as much as possible really, considering we're in Texas and he plays soccer), and is already one of the senior members of the team and (IMO) is 3rd in line for the armband.

Houston might be a good move for him though, as an understudy to a maybe-departing Brad Davis.

But then we Dallas fans would have to boo him

Coach Kev
Savannah, GA
Post #75
Saturday January 26, 2013 6:35am

Joined Aug 2012
Total Posts: 283
Original post from recycledhumans

...and is already one of the senior members of the team and (IMO) is 3rd in line for the armband.


this is the biggest problem. He is a young player who needs some good senior leadership/rolemodels
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